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	<title>Comments on: Asian Chick Lit By Asians Who Would Rather Not Call Attention to the Fact That They&#8217;re Asians</title>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m a little late in this. I&#039;m an Asian Canadian (specifically CBC--Canadian Born Chinese) who is banana/YASP (ok, not sure if I qualify as a YASP seeing that I&#039;m Catholic, but I went to a Protestant prep school for years). In my debut novel, Aspirations, one of the sidekicks is Asian, and unlike your typical rebellious Asian 20-something she DOES NOT want to join a rock band. Guess what she wants to do? She wants to be a &quot;proper young lady&quot; Yes! As in blue-blooded proper. Am I the first Asian writer to write about this?? Do you think it&#039;s a good idea??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m a little late in this. I&#8217;m an Asian Canadian (specifically CBC&#8211;Canadian Born Chinese) who is banana/YASP (ok, not sure if I qualify as a YASP seeing that I&#8217;m Catholic, but I went to a Protestant prep school for years). In my debut novel, Aspirations, one of the sidekicks is Asian, and unlike your typical rebellious Asian 20-something she DOES NOT want to join a rock band. Guess what she wants to do? She wants to be a &#8220;proper young lady&#8221; Yes! As in blue-blooded proper. Am I the first Asian writer to write about this?? Do you think it&#8217;s a good idea??</p>
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		<title>By: burnt bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>burnt bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point entirely but at the same time I understand the writers&#039; desire not to be pigeon-holed as &#039;Asian writers&#039;, and to over-ride the common expectation that if you are Asian, then you must write books about being Asian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point entirely but at the same time I understand the writers&#8217; desire not to be pigeon-holed as &#8216;Asian writers&#8217;, and to over-ride the common expectation that if you are Asian, then you must write books about being Asian.</p>
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		<title>By: rksingh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rksingh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I do not belong to the &#039;chickliterati&#039; class of writers, I would like to invite them to visit my blogs:
http://profrksingh.blogspot.com
http://rksinghpoet.blogspot.com
http://rksingh.blogspot.com
and share their comments on my poetry.
Thanks
R K Singh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I do not belong to the &#8216;chickliterati&#8217; class of writers, I would like to invite them to visit my blogs:<br />
<a href="http://profrksingh.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://profrksingh.blogspot.com</a><br />
<a href="http://rksinghpoet.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://rksinghpoet.blogspot.com</a><br />
<a href="http://rksingh.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://rksingh.blogspot.com</a><br />
and share their comments on my poetry.<br />
Thanks<br />
R K Singh</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that Americans think it&#039;s risky to market Asians because they don&#039;t think mainstream Americans and the general public wouldn&#039;t be able to relate to a yellow face.  The argument is weak.  Then how do white suburban teenagers relate to hip hop or rap music?  They seem to relate just fine.  Heck, I never watched Asian movies until I was in my twenties and I was able to relate to White movies just fine for the first twenty years of my life.  Why couldn&#039;t the reverse be true?  Why wouldn&#039;t White/(insert ethnicity here) be able to relate to Asians?  It&#039;s seriously time to stop ignoring our ethnicity in order to be more &quot;relatable&quot; or marketable.  I never saw Tupac writing lyrics about White people to reach a broader audience...he did what he did...and look how many people of all colors found his music prolific?  Why did Julie Dam have to &quot;hide&quot; her ethnicity in her book?  If you&#039;re a writer, don&#039;t compromise yourself for the &quot;benefit&quot; of others.  Create your art the way you like and see fit.  If all of us minorities had the attitude that Julie Dam had about creating indecernable ethnic characters, we as Americans will always view &quot;White&quot; as the standard, the norm...the ONLY, when in actuality, America is the most diverse country in the world.  We need to REFLECT that.  I went to live overseas in Asia, and none of them could grasp the idea that I was AMERICAN--because they were accustomed and brainwashed by the American movies and media that our country is either black or white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that Americans think it&#8217;s risky to market Asians because they don&#8217;t think mainstream Americans and the general public wouldn&#8217;t be able to relate to a yellow face.  The argument is weak.  Then how do white suburban teenagers relate to hip hop or rap music?  They seem to relate just fine.  Heck, I never watched Asian movies until I was in my twenties and I was able to relate to White movies just fine for the first twenty years of my life.  Why couldn&#8217;t the reverse be true?  Why wouldn&#8217;t White/(insert ethnicity here) be able to relate to Asians?  It&#8217;s seriously time to stop ignoring our ethnicity in order to be more &#8220;relatable&#8221; or marketable.  I never saw Tupac writing lyrics about White people to reach a broader audience&#8230;he did what he did&#8230;and look how many people of all colors found his music prolific?  Why did Julie Dam have to &#8220;hide&#8221; her ethnicity in her book?  If you&#8217;re a writer, don&#8217;t compromise yourself for the &#8220;benefit&#8221; of others.  Create your art the way you like and see fit.  If all of us minorities had the attitude that Julie Dam had about creating indecernable ethnic characters, we as Americans will always view &#8220;White&#8221; as the standard, the norm&#8230;the ONLY, when in actuality, America is the most diverse country in the world.  We need to REFLECT that.  I went to live overseas in Asia, and none of them could grasp the idea that I was AMERICAN&#8211;because they were accustomed and brainwashed by the American movies and media that our country is either black or white.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenny, I&#039;ll rephrase that last sentence simply because I&#039;m actually not accustomed to writing and editing comments in such a small box without being able to preview it. - and I actually did catch my mistake as soon as I posted it, but hoped no one noticed - darn!

What I meant to say, is that I feel it is important that artists of Asian descent be outwardly proud of their ethnicity so names like Hsu Gee and Racy Li are the norm and aren&#039;t relegated to such categorization. And that encompasses walking a very fine line with respecting one&#039;s ancenstry with, in this case, being able to properly articulate that in the mainstream. - judging by the quotes above, neither of the 2 authors were successful at it.

I hope that&#039;s clear, sometimes my thoughts get ahead of my typing skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny, I&#8217;ll rephrase that last sentence simply because I&#8217;m actually not accustomed to writing and editing comments in such a small box without being able to preview it. &#8211; and I actually did catch my mistake as soon as I posted it, but hoped no one noticed &#8211; darn!</p>
<p>What I meant to say, is that I feel it is important that artists of Asian descent be outwardly proud of their ethnicity so names like Hsu Gee and Racy Li are the norm and aren&#8217;t relegated to such categorization. And that encompasses walking a very fine line with respecting one&#8217;s ancenstry with, in this case, being able to properly articulate that in the mainstream. &#8211; judging by the quotes above, neither of the 2 authors were successful at it.</p>
<p>I hope that&#8217;s clear, sometimes my thoughts get ahead of my typing skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Racy Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Racy Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve long debated whether or not calling attention to one’s ethnicity is important in ‘mainstream’ culture. &quot;

Christine, I think it depends on how you do it and what your target audience is. There&#039;s nothing wrong in defining yourself as an Asian-American artist, with your ethnicity as your defining characteristic.  But in doing so, you may alienate the mainstream majority who feel squeamish at anything to do with race. 

Susan, I&#039;m not saying that we should pretend that race doesn&#039;t matter when it does, but from a pragmatic standpoint, when it comes to marketing, people are only going to remember one to two things about you, no matter what you&#039;re doing whether it&#039;s fiction or songwriting. You have to choose what you want them to remember very carefully. You can choose the obvious (like ethnicity, which people are probably going to remember anyway) or you can choose something else that awakens their interest and sticks in their mind about you as a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve long debated whether or not calling attention to one’s ethnicity is important in ‘mainstream’ culture. &#8221;</p>
<p>Christine, I think it depends on how you do it and what your target audience is. There&#8217;s nothing wrong in defining yourself as an Asian-American artist, with your ethnicity as your defining characteristic.  But in doing so, you may alienate the mainstream majority who feel squeamish at anything to do with race. </p>
<p>Susan, I&#8217;m not saying that we should pretend that race doesn&#8217;t matter when it does, but from a pragmatic standpoint, when it comes to marketing, people are only going to remember one to two things about you, no matter what you&#8217;re doing whether it&#8217;s fiction or songwriting. You have to choose what you want them to remember very carefully. You can choose the obvious (like ethnicity, which people are probably going to remember anyway) or you can choose something else that awakens their interest and sticks in their mind about you as a person.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, nice one - could I grab a small excerpt when you&#039;re &#039;done&#039;? :D

Christine, &quot;because it is only by being proud of who the[y] are&quot; that would cross a fine line of &#039;what&#039; you are and &#039;who&#039; you are. I would stick ethnicity into the &#039;what&#039; criteria and the actual culture in to the &#039;who&#039;. Just saying, your comment didn&#039;t make too much sense to me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, nice one &#8211; could I grab a small excerpt when you&#8217;re &#8216;done&#8217;? <img src='http://www.8asians.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Christine, &#8220;because it is only by being proud of who the[y] are&#8221; that would cross a fine line of &#8216;what&#8217; you are and &#8216;who&#8217; you are. I would stick ethnicity into the &#8216;what&#8217; criteria and the actual culture in to the &#8216;who&#8217;. Just saying, your comment didn&#8217;t make too much sense to me..</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve long debated whether or not calling attention to one&#039;s ethnicity is important in &#039;mainstream&#039; culture.  As a person who has worked in ethnic media for quite sometime, it was very disconcerning to find that some Asian artists actually shying away from the very fact that they are of Asian descent.  The reason, &quot;Oh, we&#039;re not going that way.&quot; as if &#039;going that way&#039; is shameful.  I think it is IMPORTANT, that artists of Asian descent be proud of who they are, because it is only by being proud of who their are, encompassing the very fine line that we walk being that of Asian or [insert any ethnicity here] and North American.

I&#039;m not opposed to using pen names, just that particular author&#039;s explanation was a very weak one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long debated whether or not calling attention to one&#8217;s ethnicity is important in &#8216;mainstream&#8217; culture.  As a person who has worked in ethnic media for quite sometime, it was very disconcerning to find that some Asian artists actually shying away from the very fact that they are of Asian descent.  The reason, &#8220;Oh, we&#8217;re not going that way.&#8221; as if &#8216;going that way&#8217; is shameful.  I think it is IMPORTANT, that artists of Asian descent be proud of who they are, because it is only by being proud of who their are, encompassing the very fine line that we walk being that of Asian or [insert any ethnicity here] and North American.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not opposed to using pen names, just that particular author&#8217;s explanation was a very weak one.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racy - (sigh). You do have a point there. Asian American authors shouldn&#039;t be consigned to the ethnic ghetto, but at the same time I feel like it&#039;s not right to pretend race doesn&#039;t matter - in fiction OR in life.  

Jenny, it&#039;s great to hear from a 14 yr old reader!  I&#039;m in the midst of writing a YA-ish (young adult) novel with Asian American protagonists - I don&#039;t want to hit readers over the head with it, but I also don&#039;t pretend that they&#039;re &quot;generic&quot; people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racy &#8211; (sigh). You do have a point there. Asian American authors shouldn&#8217;t be consigned to the ethnic ghetto, but at the same time I feel like it&#8217;s not right to pretend race doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211; in fiction OR in life.  </p>
<p>Jenny, it&#8217;s great to hear from a 14 yr old reader!  I&#8217;m in the midst of writing a YA-ish (young adult) novel with Asian American protagonists &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to hit readers over the head with it, but I also don&#8217;t pretend that they&#8217;re &#8220;generic&#8221; people.</p>
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		<title>By: Racy Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Racy Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an Asian American author with a distinctly Asian pseudonym. However, I do understand the motivations behind Dam&#039;s attempt to market her works as beyond ethnicities. There&#039;s been a big debate in the romance-blogland community about how black romances are often segregated into their own section, with the result that many avid readers (and I&#039;m talking about readers who buy 5-10 books a month) had never picked up a black romance. 

In contrast, the number of Asian-Americans involved in the romance genre as writers (and doing pretty well writing under non-ethnic names I believe is quite high. (Of course this is anecdotally, and based on my own experience).

Of course, I&#039;ve also noticed that the romance genre seems to have a particularly high number of Asian-Americans (and Asians) heavily involved in the industry, who from editors to writers, to well-respected independent reviewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an Asian American author with a distinctly Asian pseudonym. However, I do understand the motivations behind Dam&#8217;s attempt to market her works as beyond ethnicities. There&#8217;s been a big debate in the romance-blogland community about how black romances are often segregated into their own section, with the result that many avid readers (and I&#8217;m talking about readers who buy 5-10 books a month) had never picked up a black romance. </p>
<p>In contrast, the number of Asian-Americans involved in the romance genre as writers (and doing pretty well writing under non-ethnic names I believe is quite high. (Of course this is anecdotally, and based on my own experience).</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;ve also noticed that the romance genre seems to have a particularly high number of Asian-Americans (and Asians) heavily involved in the industry, who from editors to writers, to well-respected independent reviewers.</p>
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