actually Akrypti, Oliver continues to miss the point and I’m guessing he’s still working off the assumption that I think all Caucasians = Hitler (which is great because that makes it clear O understood nothing in my last reply to him)

“Ernie, after people here on this very blog thought it funny to liken Mr. Wong to throwing any and all white people, Polish, Russian, French, English and Americans into one pot with Adolf Hitler, precisely who is flaming around here?”

of course what O refuses to see is that by the same rationale a single problematic Asian icon marginalizes the cultural specificity of Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Indonesian, etc. along with the myriad historical struggles Asian Americans have had to go through. He’s so hung up on the content I used to make a point (with perhaps a little too much spice) that he can’t see any points made beyond it. Which suggests to me that this guy is only sensitive to the struggles of populations he identifies with. zero capacity to recognize the struggles of others. even when you point them out.

“People don’t always want themselves to be treated in a way that’s most beneficial for them.”

it’s a no win situation with this guy when that kind of claim is used to make a point. honestly, i’d say this kind of thinking has very clear fascistic tendencies.

actually Akrypti, Oliver continues to miss the point and I’m guessing he’s still working off the assumption that I think all Caucasians = Hitler (which is great because that makes it clear O understood nothing in my last reply to him)

“Ernie, after people here on this very blog thought it funny to liken Mr. Wong to throwing any and all white people, Polish, Russian, French, English and Americans into one pot with Adolf Hitler, precisely who is flaming around here?”

of course what O refuses to see is that by the same rationale a single problematic Asian icon marginalizes the cultural specificity of Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Indonesian, etc. along with the myriad historical struggles Asian Americans have had to go through. He’s so hung up on the content I used to make a point (with perhaps a little too much spice) that he can’t see any points made beyond it. Which suggests to me that this guy is only sensitive to the struggles of populations he identifies with. zero capacity to recognize the struggles of others. even when you point them out.

“People don’t always want themselves to be treated in a way that’s most beneficial for them.”

it’s a no win situation with this guy when that kind of claim is used to make a point. honestly, i’d say this kind of thinking has very clear fascistic tendencies.

No one threw all people of Caucasian descent into the same pot as Hitler.

Re: “still merely an attempt to deny goodwill on Kai’s part and pretends it was done for business” — huh? I’ve mentioned repeatedly now our appreciation for Kai and the Mister Wong web team’s good faith efforts and no one denies there wasn’t a shred of malice in the original intention. So…what are you talking about? The prudent business judgment rationale that people here keep raising refers to the fact that they didn’t *change* the logo because of 8Asians; they changed it because it is prudent business judgment to do so *IF* they want to break into the U.S. market.

Like what Courageous Kiwi noted, I don’t even know how to respond to the rest of your arguments because it makes no logical sense.

Re: “Let me say that: With friends like these, people don’t need enemies anymore.” HUH?! We’re friends? Puh-lease. At best, we’re strangers with dissenting opinions.

No one threw all people of Caucasian descent into the same pot as Hitler.

Re: “still merely an attempt to deny goodwill on Kai’s part and pretends it was done for business” — huh? I’ve mentioned repeatedly now our appreciation for Kai and the Mister Wong web team’s good faith efforts and no one denies there wasn’t a shred of malice in the original intention. So…what are you talking about? The prudent business judgment rationale that people here keep raising refers to the fact that they didn’t *change* the logo because of 8Asians; they changed it because it is prudent business judgment to do so *IF* they want to break into the U.S. market.

Like what Courageous Kiwi noted, I don’t even know how to respond to the rest of your arguments because it makes no logical sense.

Re: “Let me say that: With friends like these, people don’t need enemies anymore.” HUH?! We’re friends? Puh-lease. At best, we’re strangers with dissenting opinions.

And with that, I think there’s nothing more anyone can say for this thread.

And with that, I think there’s nothing more anyone can say for this thread.