Comments on: United We Stand: 5 Baby Steps Asian-Americans Can Take Toward Solidarity http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/ A blog for Asian Americans Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:41:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chook http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-31035 Chook Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:14:12 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-31035 I came across your site by accident and found this article particularly interesting. It seems to me that the issues of disunity amongst Asians in America go far deeper than your article would suggest. It's the Asian family itself that seems fractured and disunited. How can Asians unite when Asian women are routinely and unabashedly expressing their disinterest/disdain for Asian partners? What does this kind of attitude imply about these women's feelings for their own brothers, fathers or sons? This is a disunity of a profound kind. How does one tackle the disunity of an inter-generational and cross cultural barrier that may exist between immigrant parents and fully acculturated offspring. The isolation and disconnectedness (stemming from harrassment or racism) experienced by young Asian Americans is often beyond the scope of experience for immigrant parents to deal with or understand. It seems to me that to create a unified Asian American voice requires a healing of the divisions within self and family. Political unity should follow with ease. I came across your site by accident and found this article particularly interesting. It seems to me that the issues of disunity amongst Asians in America go far deeper than your article would suggest. It’s the Asian family itself that seems fractured and disunited. How can Asians unite when Asian women are routinely and unabashedly expressing their disinterest/disdain for Asian partners? What does this kind of attitude imply about these women’s feelings for their own brothers, fathers or sons? This is a disunity of a profound kind. How does one tackle the disunity of an inter-generational and cross cultural barrier that may exist between immigrant parents and fully acculturated offspring. The isolation and disconnectedness (stemming from harrassment or racism) experienced by young Asian Americans is often beyond the scope of experience for immigrant parents to deal with or understand. It seems to me that to create a unified Asian American voice requires a healing of the divisions within self and family. Political unity should follow with ease.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-136018 Anonymous Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:14:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-136018 I came across your site by accident and found this article particularly interesting. It seems to me that the issues of disunity amongst Asians in America go far deeper than your article would suggest. It's the Asian family itself that seems fractured and disunited. How can Asians unite when Asian women are routinely and unabashedly expressing their disinterest/disdain for Asian partners? What does this kind of attitude imply about these women's feelings for their own brothers, fathers or sons? This is a disunity of a profound kind. How does one tackle the disunity of an inter-generational and cross cultural barrier that may exist between immigrant parents and fully acculturated offspring. The isolation and disconnectedness (stemming from harrassment or racism) experienced by young Asian Americans is often beyond the scope of experience for immigrant parents to deal with or understand. It seems to me that to create a unified Asian American voice requires a healing of the divisions within self and family. Political unity should follow with ease. I came across your site by accident and found this article particularly interesting. It seems to me that the issues of disunity amongst Asians in America go far deeper than your article would suggest. It’s the Asian family itself that seems fractured and disunited. How can Asians unite when Asian women are routinely and unabashedly expressing their disinterest/disdain for Asian partners? What does this kind of attitude imply about these women’s feelings for their own brothers, fathers or sons? This is a disunity of a profound kind. How does one tackle the disunity of an inter-generational and cross cultural barrier that may exist between immigrant parents and fully acculturated offspring. The isolation and disconnectedness (stemming from harrassment or racism) experienced by young Asian Americans is often beyond the scope of experience for immigrant parents to deal with or understand. It seems to me that to create a unified Asian American voice requires a healing of the divisions within self and family. Political unity should follow with ease.

]]> By: akrypti http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-30131 akrypti Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:49:08 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-30131 Wangus, There's a difference between competition and rivalry. Guess which one I discourage. Wangus,
There’s a difference between competition and rivalry. Guess which one I discourage.

]]> By: akrypti http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-136017 akrypti Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:49:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-136017 Wangus, There's a difference between competition and rivalry. Guess which one I discourage. Wangus,
There’s a difference between competition and rivalry. Guess which one I discourage.

]]> By: kizoku http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-29873 kizoku Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:02:59 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-29873 Hi Akrypti/8A crowd, I stumbled onto this blog and liked alot of the topics and articles. Good stuff. I'm sort of a feminist, and i tend to be very blunt so a lot of the sexist guys on MM hate me that's why i get comments like that. As for the article you wrote: I agree in concept with most of what you have written, but i have an issue with being lumped together by others (non-"asian") as well as by each other. My parents/mine culture is invariably different than, say, an indian person's, i think it would be a disrespectful choice to just say we are the same- I mean asia's a big place. I also agree with Wangus Khan's post.. many asians are well-to-do, or in the process of attaining that status. They (from all ethnicities) generally wont want to 'rock the boat' just because of a few bad portrayals of AMs. Anyway, *hugs* Hi Akrypti/8A crowd,

I stumbled onto this blog and liked alot of the topics and articles. Good stuff. I’m sort of a feminist, and i tend to be very blunt so a lot of the sexist guys on MM hate me that’s why i get comments like that.

As for the article you wrote:

I agree in concept with most of what you have written, but i have an issue with being lumped together by others (non-”asian”) as well as by each other. My parents/mine culture is invariably different than, say, an indian person’s, i think it would be a disrespectful choice to just say we are the same- I mean asia’s a big place.

I also agree with Wangus Khan’s post.. many asians are well-to-do, or in the process of attaining that status. They (from all ethnicities) generally wont want to ‘rock the boat’ just because of a few bad portrayals of AMs.

Anyway,

*hugs*

]]> By: kizoku http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-136016 kizoku Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:02:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-136016 Hi Akrypti/8A crowd, I stumbled onto this blog and liked alot of the topics and articles. Good stuff. I'm sort of a feminist, and i tend to be very blunt so a lot of the sexist guys on MM hate me that's why i get comments like that. As for the article you wrote: I agree in concept with most of what you have written, but i have an issue with being lumped together by others (non-"asian") as well as by each other. My parents/mine culture is invariably different than, say, an indian person's, i think it would be a disrespectful choice to just say we are the same- I mean asia's a big place. I also agree with Wangus Khan's post.. many asians are well-to-do, or in the process of attaining that status. They (from all ethnicities) generally wont want to 'rock the boat' just because of a few bad portrayals of AMs. Anyway, *hugs* Hi Akrypti/8A crowd,

I stumbled onto this blog and liked alot of the topics and articles. Good stuff. I’m sort of a feminist, and i tend to be very blunt so a lot of the sexist guys on MM hate me that’s why i get comments like that.

As for the article you wrote:

I agree in concept with most of what you have written, but i have an issue with being lumped together by others (non-”asian”) as well as by each other. My parents/mine culture is invariably different than, say, an indian person’s, i think it would be a disrespectful choice to just say we are the same- I mean asia’s a big place.

I also agree with Wangus Khan’s post.. many asians are well-to-do, or in the process of attaining that status. They (from all ethnicities) generally wont want to ‘rock the boat’ just because of a few bad portrayals of AMs.

Anyway,

*hugs*

]]> By: Wangus Khan http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-29310 Wangus Khan Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:50:08 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-29310 You write about asian unity, but competition in general makes us stronger. Look at how quickly european countries developed past asian countries. Conflict constantly forced those countries over there to develop technology and organize in a way that surpassed asia. In China, the greatest times of flourishing were directly after great conflicts. If we can apply this same idea to all the individual asian groups, then it follows that the more conflicts the better we'll be. Uniting under a banner of general asian unity isn't a strong enough adhesive and will probably cause light to apathetic participation at most. The big complaint is that asians simply don't care. Why is that? We really have it pretty good. Sure there are some stigmas out there, but asians have the highest median income, highest levels of education, and generally a higher quality of life than the rest of america. There is no serious conflict that we have to fight off. No great war to bring us all together. The African Americans had slavery to overcome and they have the most united front in all minority interest groups. Japanese Internment camps, Chinese exlusion act, and building the railroads (which have almost no after shock on us today) are not 'drastic' enough to bring us all together. Sure it pisses me off that such things have happened, but there's virtually no aftershock to all that. We're the most prosperous group. Group unity won't stick over a few abercrombie shirts, asian male desexualization, and asian female fetishes. We need more conflict before any kind of unity can be expected. You write about asian unity, but competition in general makes us stronger. Look at how quickly european countries developed past asian countries. Conflict constantly forced those countries over there to develop technology and organize in a way that surpassed asia. In China, the greatest times of flourishing were directly after great conflicts. If we can apply this same idea to all the individual asian groups, then it follows that the more conflicts the better we’ll be.

Uniting under a banner of general asian unity isn’t a strong enough adhesive and will probably cause light to apathetic participation at most. The big complaint is that asians simply don’t care. Why is that? We really have it pretty good. Sure there are some stigmas out there, but asians have the highest median income, highest levels of education, and generally a higher quality of life than the rest of america. There is no serious conflict that we have to fight off. No great war to bring us all together. The African Americans had slavery to overcome and they have the most united front in all minority interest groups. Japanese Internment camps, Chinese exlusion act, and building the railroads (which have almost no after shock on us today) are not ‘drastic’ enough to bring us all together. Sure it pisses me off that such things have happened, but there’s virtually no aftershock to all that.

We’re the most prosperous group. Group unity won’t stick over a few abercrombie shirts, asian male desexualization, and asian female fetishes. We need more conflict before any kind of unity can be expected.

]]> By: Wangus Khan http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-136015 Wangus Khan Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:50:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/18/united-we-stand/#comment-136015 You write about asian unity, but competition in general makes us stronger. Look at how quickly european countries developed past asian countries. Conflict constantly forced those countries over there to develop technology and organize in a way that surpassed asia. In China, the greatest times of flourishing were directly after great conflicts. If we can apply this same idea to all the individual asian groups, then it follows that the more conflicts the better we'll be. Uniting under a banner of general asian unity isn't a strong enough adhesive and will probably cause light to apathetic participation at most. The big complaint is that asians simply don't care. Why is that? We really have it pretty good. Sure there are some stigmas out there, but asians have the highest median income, highest levels of education, and generally a higher quality of life than the rest of america. There is no serious conflict that we have to fight off. No great war to bring us all together. The African Americans had slavery to overcome and they have the most united front in all minority interest groups. Japanese Internment camps, Chinese exlusion act, and building the railroads (which have almost no after shock on us today) are not 'drastic' enough to bring us all together. Sure it pisses me off that such things have happened, but there's virtually no aftershock to all that. We're the most prosperous group. Group unity won't stick over a few abercrombie shirts, asian male desexualization, and asian female fetishes. We need more conflict before any kind of unity can be expected. You write about asian unity, but competition in general makes us stronger. Look at how quickly european countries developed past asian countries. Conflict constantly forced those countries over there to develop technology and organize in a way that surpassed asia. In China, the greatest times of flourishing were directly after great conflicts. If we can apply this same idea to all the individual asian groups, then it follows that the more conflicts the better we’ll be.

Uniting under a banner of general asian unity isn’t a strong enough adhesive and will probably cause light to apathetic participation at most. The big complaint is that asians simply don’t care. Why is that? We really have it pretty good. Sure there are some stigmas out there, but asians have the highest median income, highest levels of education, and generally a higher quality of life than the rest of america. There is no serious conflict that we have to fight off. No great war to bring us all together. The African Americans had slavery to overcome and they have the most united front in all minority interest groups. Japanese Internment camps, Chinese exlusion act, and building the railroads (which have almost no after shock on us today) are not ‘drastic’ enough to bring us all together. Sure it pisses me off that such things have happened, but there’s virtually no aftershock to all that.

We’re the most prosperous group. Group unity won’t stick over a few abercrombie shirts, asian male desexualization, and asian female fetishes. We need more conflict before any kind of unity can be expected.

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