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	<title>Comments on: Bi-racial Couples &#8211; A first person account</title>
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		<title>By: Philippine women</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/28/bi-racial-couples-a-first-person-account/comment-page-1/#comment-127190</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippine women</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interracial dating makes no boundaries when it to comes to love and search for a lifetime partner. Yes, it could be a different story from one another but still it&#039;s the heart that talks for two different individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interracial dating makes no boundaries when it to comes to love and search for a lifetime partner. Yes, it could be a different story from one another but still it&#39;s the heart that talks for two different individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Chook</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/28/bi-racial-couples-a-first-person-account/comment-page-1/#comment-31574</link>
		<dc:creator>Chook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny, I think that you are correct that the fabric of Asian America is deeply damaged and often confused. I do not have any issue with bi-racial unions of any kind as long as it&#039;s based on genuine love for another human being. My issue is that the whole subject of white male/Asian female unions has become so much of a non-issue that any real issues that arise from cross ethnic unions are overlooked. For instance, when Asian women express their love of the &quot;more masculine&quot; caucasian, they are perfectly entitled to their opinion. What happens, one wonders, when such women marry their &quot;more masculine&quot; caucasian husbands and give birth to &quot;not so masculine&quot; half Asian boys? How can they raise psychologically healthy, confident sons who are able to prosper and succeed in a culture that is so deeply demeaning towards them,when their underlying attitude to Asian men seems to be so negative? Again, I have no problem with cross racial unions, but is the Asian community so empowered and respected in this society that we can aproach this subject with such a flighty attitude? I don&#039;t think we are.  East Asians (male and female) are written about, spoken about and portrayed in this (western) culture in very demeaning and hostile ways. Much of what we see, read and hear about our community is negative and my feeling is that if you (as an Asian) have nothing good to say about your community or the people in it then don&#039;t say anything. I&#039;m not saying that we should put up with abuse or injustice from our own, but change doesn&#039;t come from without.  Running away to white culture doesn&#039;t solve the issues within ourselves or our communities, it passes them along to our offspring. So, date, marry and love outside your race but don&#039;t do it because you can find nothing good about your own culture and just wish you could be something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny, I think that you are correct that the fabric of Asian America is deeply damaged and often confused. I do not have any issue with bi-racial unions of any kind as long as it&#8217;s based on genuine love for another human being. My issue is that the whole subject of white male/Asian female unions has become so much of a non-issue that any real issues that arise from cross ethnic unions are overlooked. For instance, when Asian women express their love of the &#8220;more masculine&#8221; caucasian, they are perfectly entitled to their opinion. What happens, one wonders, when such women marry their &#8220;more masculine&#8221; caucasian husbands and give birth to &#8220;not so masculine&#8221; half Asian boys? How can they raise psychologically healthy, confident sons who are able to prosper and succeed in a culture that is so deeply demeaning towards them,when their underlying attitude to Asian men seems to be so negative? Again, I have no problem with cross racial unions, but is the Asian community so empowered and respected in this society that we can aproach this subject with such a flighty attitude? I don&#8217;t think we are.  East Asians (male and female) are written about, spoken about and portrayed in this (western) culture in very demeaning and hostile ways. Much of what we see, read and hear about our community is negative and my feeling is that if you (as an Asian) have nothing good to say about your community or the people in it then don&#8217;t say anything. I&#8217;m not saying that we should put up with abuse or injustice from our own, but change doesn&#8217;t come from without.  Running away to white culture doesn&#8217;t solve the issues within ourselves or our communities, it passes them along to our offspring. So, date, marry and love outside your race but don&#8217;t do it because you can find nothing good about your own culture and just wish you could be something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/28/bi-racial-couples-a-first-person-account/comment-page-1/#comment-31571</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the reason why this subject needs to be addressed is because it&#039;s destroying the fabric of Asian America in the first place, Chook.  The best way to rot a community is from the inside and that&#039;s exactly what&#039;s happening.  We won&#039;t make any progress in any other respect until Asian men and women can come together. 

At this rate, I don&#039;t see that happening at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the reason why this subject needs to be addressed is because it&#8217;s destroying the fabric of Asian America in the first place, Chook.  The best way to rot a community is from the inside and that&#8217;s exactly what&#8217;s happening.  We won&#8217;t make any progress in any other respect until Asian men and women can come together. </p>
<p>At this rate, I don&#8217;t see that happening at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chook</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/28/bi-racial-couples-a-first-person-account/comment-page-1/#comment-31171</link>
		<dc:creator>Chook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article quite refreshing in it&#039;s approach to this subject, mainly because it took a humanistic approach instead of the usual Asian Man Bashing Approach. All too often this subject is presented as an issue facing Asian Americans but I am left to wonder what exactly these &quot;issues&quot; are. Laws against inter-racial relations have often been at the heart of  discrimination against minorities, perhaps even the driving force of institutionalised racism. So when I read or watch certain Asian women offering   opinions about how they&#039;d never date Asians because......(fill in the blank) and would only date white men, then I can&#039;t help but feel that they are disconnected from the struggles that brought they and their community to the point where it&#039;s legal to say these things. My issue is not that they have this preference (I have been happily married to a Caucasian women for many years) but that they are so blase and flighty about it. What in my mind should be a subject for discussion with close, trusted friends suddenly becomes an &quot;issue&quot; of the entire community where everybody now knows and are often embarrassed to hear about sexual preferences of someone they don&#039;t know. My point is that there was a time -in my lifetime 30 -40 years ago - where if I were to walk down the street with my white wife I could have been thrown in jail, attacked, beaten and possibly murdered. If I were black I could have been lynched just for looking at a white woman. Within the last 2 years a young Mexican American boy in Texas was beaten and raped with a broomstick for flirting with a white girl. The &quot;issue&quot; is and always has been serious to the point that individuals have had to fight and die for the right to fall in love with whomsoever they choose. My wife and I recently had dinner with an old school friend of hers and his Asian American wife during which we were informed by her how she only dated an was attracted to white men. Both my wife and I were surprised at how candid she was about it. Yet we both felt that it was a little uncouth to discuss this subject with people you are not really close to. Please feel free to have your preferences but don&#039;t turn it into an &quot;issue&quot; of the community. It isn&#039;t. In many ways it&#039;s irresponsible. Throughout SE Asia there are thousands of young girls (and boys) some as young as 6 or 7 who are put into the sex industry to help support their extremely poor families. The demand amongst European and North American pedophiles for this young Asian flesh is what drives the supply of these children. So, the next time you hear an Asian girl whose comfortable and possibly priveleged life allows her to be uncouth in this matter, just remeber that there may be a pedophile in your town who&#039;s planning a trip to Thailand to have sex with a 6 year old prostitute who will read what you have to say and think &quot;maybe the Asian children I&#039;m raping enjoy it since Asian women prefer white men&quot;.  If I have been harsh I don&#039;t apologize. We have a responsibility as free and priveleged citizens to help others of our race to rise above poverty, oppression and discrimination. If all we can talk about is &quot;I only date white men because......&quot; then we need to work on our  collective conscience and show ourselves to be disconnected from the realities of Asian life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article quite refreshing in it&#8217;s approach to this subject, mainly because it took a humanistic approach instead of the usual Asian Man Bashing Approach. All too often this subject is presented as an issue facing Asian Americans but I am left to wonder what exactly these &#8220;issues&#8221; are. Laws against inter-racial relations have often been at the heart of  discrimination against minorities, perhaps even the driving force of institutionalised racism. So when I read or watch certain Asian women offering   opinions about how they&#8217;d never date Asians because&#8230;&#8230;(fill in the blank) and would only date white men, then I can&#8217;t help but feel that they are disconnected from the struggles that brought they and their community to the point where it&#8217;s legal to say these things. My issue is not that they have this preference (I have been happily married to a Caucasian women for many years) but that they are so blase and flighty about it. What in my mind should be a subject for discussion with close, trusted friends suddenly becomes an &#8220;issue&#8221; of the entire community where everybody now knows and are often embarrassed to hear about sexual preferences of someone they don&#8217;t know. My point is that there was a time -in my lifetime 30 -40 years ago &#8211; where if I were to walk down the street with my white wife I could have been thrown in jail, attacked, beaten and possibly murdered. If I were black I could have been lynched just for looking at a white woman. Within the last 2 years a young Mexican American boy in Texas was beaten and raped with a broomstick for flirting with a white girl. The &#8220;issue&#8221; is and always has been serious to the point that individuals have had to fight and die for the right to fall in love with whomsoever they choose. My wife and I recently had dinner with an old school friend of hers and his Asian American wife during which we were informed by her how she only dated an was attracted to white men. Both my wife and I were surprised at how candid she was about it. Yet we both felt that it was a little uncouth to discuss this subject with people you are not really close to. Please feel free to have your preferences but don&#8217;t turn it into an &#8220;issue&#8221; of the community. It isn&#8217;t. In many ways it&#8217;s irresponsible. Throughout SE Asia there are thousands of young girls (and boys) some as young as 6 or 7 who are put into the sex industry to help support their extremely poor families. The demand amongst European and North American pedophiles for this young Asian flesh is what drives the supply of these children. So, the next time you hear an Asian girl whose comfortable and possibly priveleged life allows her to be uncouth in this matter, just remeber that there may be a pedophile in your town who&#8217;s planning a trip to Thailand to have sex with a 6 year old prostitute who will read what you have to say and think &#8220;maybe the Asian children I&#8217;m raping enjoy it since Asian women prefer white men&#8221;.  If I have been harsh I don&#8217;t apologize. We have a responsibility as free and priveleged citizens to help others of our race to rise above poverty, oppression and discrimination. If all we can talk about is &#8220;I only date white men because&#8230;&#8230;&#8221; then we need to work on our  collective conscience and show ourselves to be disconnected from the realities of Asian life.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/28/bi-racial-couples-a-first-person-account/comment-page-1/#comment-31113</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, while that statement was a bit bold, I believe it could have been better phrased to the area of &quot;men and women of a particular race are expected to be with each other.&quot;  It&#039;s really odd that ultra-liberal Asians would say otherwise and embrace colorblindness that fervently where we should view the world with colorblind lenses.

While they don&#039;t own each other and therefore don&#039;t necessarily &quot;belong&quot; to each other like items to be traded, the idea that no one belongs to a racial demographic and is inherently colorblind is, well, stupid.

On paper, it seems good to be colorblind, gender blind, religion blind, or sexual orientation blind.  However, it contains a key word in there: blind.  It means you can&#039;t see.  I&#039;d rather see everything and make a decision based on all available information.

Additionally, I don&#039;t oppose interracial dating and marriage by a long shot.  What I do oppose is the extent to the sheer volume and frequency it is happening in the Asian American female community.  1 in every 3 Asian females is involved with a white partner.  Yes, I&#039;m going to stop using the PC term &quot;interracial marriage&quot; because statistics have proven that it&#039;s white, not non-Asian men.

I&#039;m sure everyone knows the basic concept of Yin-Yang and the fundamental drive to achieve balance in the world.  When you have imbalance, chaos reigns and that&#039;s exactly what&#039;s happening to the Asian community.  When do all social revolutions happen?  When the gap between rich and poor grows  As interracial dating and marriage among Asian women climbs, expect this gender conflict to continue far into the future and into later generations but hey, who cares?  Live for ourselves, I guess.

We have enough divisions and hostility in the Asian community and this is just one more situation we don&#039;t need.

We have intra-Asian conflict, immigrant and native conflict, political conflict, class conflict, and of course, gender conflict.  I&#039;m surprised that the Asian American community hasn&#039;t killed itself off by now and I believe that the only reason Asian America is able to grow in the first place is because of massive amounts of immigration.  


Also, I just wanted to add the point that in your other thread &quot;Why Asian girls go for white guys: A Response,&quot; you pointed out that since Asian men don&#039;t ask you and your sisters out, you&#039;re forced to pick from a pool that will, white men.  This causes you to inadvertently support the idea that Asian women only want to date white men when Asian men see you.  What about what happens when white men see this pairing?  Do you think that since white men see this pairing often, they&#039;ll just brush it off as just another happy couple?  Or do you think they believe Asian men are indeed inferior which is causing Asian women to flee?  Do you believe it helps contribute to the asexual Asian man?  Hell, other races and genders are starting to notice it and question why the outflux of Asian women is so high.  While Asian women might be individually thinking that it&#039;s perfectly fine, let&#039;s all take a step back and see what happens in a bigger picture.

Again, I believe people can do whatever they want but when you throw a rock into a pond, be prepared to examine the ripples.

Let&#039;s say, for the sake of argument, that the interracial dating and marriage percentage of Asian women was 80%?  Should be still embrace it or should we view it as hindering the community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, while that statement was a bit bold, I believe it could have been better phrased to the area of &#8220;men and women of a particular race are expected to be with each other.&#8221;  It&#8217;s really odd that ultra-liberal Asians would say otherwise and embrace colorblindness that fervently where we should view the world with colorblind lenses.</p>
<p>While they don&#8217;t own each other and therefore don&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;belong&#8221; to each other like items to be traded, the idea that no one belongs to a racial demographic and is inherently colorblind is, well, stupid.</p>
<p>On paper, it seems good to be colorblind, gender blind, religion blind, or sexual orientation blind.  However, it contains a key word in there: blind.  It means you can&#8217;t see.  I&#8217;d rather see everything and make a decision based on all available information.</p>
<p>Additionally, I don&#8217;t oppose interracial dating and marriage by a long shot.  What I do oppose is the extent to the sheer volume and frequency it is happening in the Asian American female community.  1 in every 3 Asian females is involved with a white partner.  Yes, I&#8217;m going to stop using the PC term &#8220;interracial marriage&#8221; because statistics have proven that it&#8217;s white, not non-Asian men.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure everyone knows the basic concept of Yin-Yang and the fundamental drive to achieve balance in the world.  When you have imbalance, chaos reigns and that&#8217;s exactly what&#8217;s happening to the Asian community.  When do all social revolutions happen?  When the gap between rich and poor grows  As interracial dating and marriage among Asian women climbs, expect this gender conflict to continue far into the future and into later generations but hey, who cares?  Live for ourselves, I guess.</p>
<p>We have enough divisions and hostility in the Asian community and this is just one more situation we don&#8217;t need.</p>
<p>We have intra-Asian conflict, immigrant and native conflict, political conflict, class conflict, and of course, gender conflict.  I&#8217;m surprised that the Asian American community hasn&#8217;t killed itself off by now and I believe that the only reason Asian America is able to grow in the first place is because of massive amounts of immigration.  </p>
<p>Also, I just wanted to add the point that in your other thread &#8220;Why Asian girls go for white guys: A Response,&#8221; you pointed out that since Asian men don&#8217;t ask you and your sisters out, you&#8217;re forced to pick from a pool that will, white men.  This causes you to inadvertently support the idea that Asian women only want to date white men when Asian men see you.  What about what happens when white men see this pairing?  Do you think that since white men see this pairing often, they&#8217;ll just brush it off as just another happy couple?  Or do you think they believe Asian men are indeed inferior which is causing Asian women to flee?  Do you believe it helps contribute to the asexual Asian man?  Hell, other races and genders are starting to notice it and question why the outflux of Asian women is so high.  While Asian women might be individually thinking that it&#8217;s perfectly fine, let&#8217;s all take a step back and see what happens in a bigger picture.</p>
<p>Again, I believe people can do whatever they want but when you throw a rock into a pond, be prepared to examine the ripples.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say, for the sake of argument, that the interracial dating and marriage percentage of Asian women was 80%?  Should be still embrace it or should we view it as hindering the community?</p>
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		<title>By: Akrypti</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/28/bi-racial-couples-a-first-person-account/comment-page-1/#comment-30937</link>
		<dc:creator>Akrypti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To reveal some of my personal ideologies--- public policy wise, I&#039;m fervently pro-choice; but in my own private sphere, due to my conservative upbringing, my political and religious views, I&#039;m fervently pro-life. Are you saying I can&#039;t advocate pro-choice policy even though I am personally pro-life? 

I take no issue at all with an Asian American who is a zealous activist in his or her ethnic community but happens to be married to a white American. Frankly, I don&#039;t even see how the two are related. That activist is still practicing what he or she preaches -- social justice for all, and in this case, fighting primarily for the Asian community. We tread on dangerous grounds when we allow the day&#039;s dominating mainstream politics to dictate other people&#039;s private lives. 

Rob, to answer your question: the impression that particular activist will give is one of hypocrite, but that is NOT because that activist *is* a hypocrite, no. It is because society tends to be closed-minded and stupid. Why would that Asian activist date Asian instead of non-Asian *just* to prove a point? 

I understand that all you&#039;re trying to do is urge caution, but I think what sparked this storm of responses is how you worded it. &quot;Asian men belong to Asian women and vice versa&quot;? Lordy, that&#039;s the quickest way to shoot yourself in the foot.

I agree with what you said, to a milder degree, or at least I can empathize with the spirit of the argument. So what is your proposal for change if you were Dictator of the World? Ban absolutely all interracial marriage? Require of those who wish to marry outside their race to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that they&#039;re marrying for the &quot;right&quot; reasons, &quot;right&quot; being defined by you, and not the &quot;wrong&quot; ones, &quot;wrong&quot; again also being defined by you? I&#039;m sure these would make splendid laws...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reveal some of my personal ideologies&#8212; public policy wise, I&#8217;m fervently pro-choice; but in my own private sphere, due to my conservative upbringing, my political and religious views, I&#8217;m fervently pro-life. Are you saying I can&#8217;t advocate pro-choice policy even though I am personally pro-life? </p>
<p>I take no issue at all with an Asian American who is a zealous activist in his or her ethnic community but happens to be married to a white American. Frankly, I don&#8217;t even see how the two are related. That activist is still practicing what he or she preaches &#8212; social justice for all, and in this case, fighting primarily for the Asian community. We tread on dangerous grounds when we allow the day&#8217;s dominating mainstream politics to dictate other people&#8217;s private lives. </p>
<p>Rob, to answer your question: the impression that particular activist will give is one of hypocrite, but that is NOT because that activist *is* a hypocrite, no. It is because society tends to be closed-minded and stupid. Why would that Asian activist date Asian instead of non-Asian *just* to prove a point? </p>
<p>I understand that all you&#8217;re trying to do is urge caution, but I think what sparked this storm of responses is how you worded it. &#8220;Asian men belong to Asian women and vice versa&#8221;? Lordy, that&#8217;s the quickest way to shoot yourself in the foot.</p>
<p>I agree with what you said, to a milder degree, or at least I can empathize with the spirit of the argument. So what is your proposal for change if you were Dictator of the World? Ban absolutely all interracial marriage? Require of those who wish to marry outside their race to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that they&#8217;re marrying for the &#8220;right&#8221; reasons, &#8220;right&#8221; being defined by you, and not the &#8220;wrong&#8221; ones, &#8220;wrong&#8221; again also being defined by you? I&#8217;m sure these would make splendid laws&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, while I understand that &quot;individual rights are paramount&quot; mantra, I am just attempting to urge caution on what the ramifications are.  My point that&#039;s constantly being ignored is what type of image this is sending American society as a whole.  Again, I believe that the huge outmarriage and outdating rate for Asian women being so high is a good contributor of Asian male emasculation in this country.  Is that deniable?

Also, I would like to hear your opinion, Akrypti, what kind of impression it might give to Asian America to preach about Asian men but be dating someone who isn&#039;t Asian?  I&#039;m not attacking your dating partner or have any intention to but rather just to inquire how it might be viewed by others, Asian or non-Asian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, while I understand that &#8220;individual rights are paramount&#8221; mantra, I am just attempting to urge caution on what the ramifications are.  My point that&#8217;s constantly being ignored is what type of image this is sending American society as a whole.  Again, I believe that the huge outmarriage and outdating rate for Asian women being so high is a good contributor of Asian male emasculation in this country.  Is that deniable?</p>
<p>Also, I would like to hear your opinion, Akrypti, what kind of impression it might give to Asian America to preach about Asian men but be dating someone who isn&#8217;t Asian?  I&#8217;m not attacking your dating partner or have any intention to but rather just to inquire how it might be viewed by others, Asian or non-Asian.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, my prior comment didn&#039;t post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, my prior comment didn&#8217;t post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - Bill Gates&#039; speech at Harvard is quite good in regards to wh

William H. Gates III at Harvard Commencement
Harvard Commencement
June 7, 2007
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2007/06.14/99-gates.html

&quot;I learned a lot here at Harvard about new ideas in economics and politics. I got great exposure to the advances being made in the sciences. But humanity’s greatest advances are not in its discoveries – but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity. Whether through democracy, strong public education, quality health care, or broad economic opportunity – reducing inequity is the highest human achievement. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; Bill Gates&#8217; speech at Harvard is quite good in regards to wh</p>
<p>William H. Gates III at Harvard Commencement<br />
Harvard Commencement<br />
June 7, 2007<br />
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<p>&#8220;I learned a lot here at Harvard about new ideas in economics and politics. I got great exposure to the advances being made in the sciences. But humanity’s greatest advances are not in its discoveries – but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity. Whether through democracy, strong public education, quality health care, or broad economic opportunity – reducing inequity is the highest human achievement. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Bertie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertie</dc:creator>
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		<description>Trying again... glad I saved it on notepad...
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Rob:

That&#039;s great that J found someone with her required set of attributes, one of which was motivated by a sense of social justice. I hope it works out for them. But most importantly, I hope they are in love.

I&#039;m skeptical of shopping for a partner with a particular set of attributes. Why? Finding a suitable partner is not like shopping for the perfect set of shoes or the perfect ingredients to make the perfect paella. Making a checklist and then following it by the book will not create chemistry. Keep an open mind, don&#039;t limit yourself, and tear up those stupid shopping lists! 

When two people fall in love with one another and they are truly compatible, it&#039;s caused by forces of nature, and it happens very rarely. Some people never fall in love with anyone but choose to settle down with someone, because they think &quot;well, fuck it, it&#039;s time.&quot; Or they don&#039;t want to be alone. Or they just choose someone who fits the bill because of outside expectations. It&#039;s sad. 

So I take issue with the following sentence you wrote: &quot;Asian men belong to Asian women and vice versa. They’re logically expected to be with each other.&quot; Sorry, but WTF? Based on what reasoning? This reminds me of a quote in the trial court&#039;s opinion in Loving v. Virginia: &quot;Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for [interracial] marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.&quot; That laughable opinion was written by a friendly neighborhood white supremacist judge back in Virginia in the 1960s who then subsequently banished an interracial couple from Virginia for 25 years. (Fortunately, the Supreme Court decided to come out of the dark ages and declare such anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional.) Okay, I went on a tangent, but I fail to see how Asian women and Asian men can be logically expected to be with each other unless the motivation is preserving ethnic purity, in which case the scary Loving v. Virginia lower court quote isn&#039;t that far off...

Anyway, I reject any type of directive that limits possibilities in the dating realm. 

How about this? Instead of presenting the situation you described above as an affirmative action type of situation (which still paints Asian males as a group that needs help), why don&#039;t you say, &quot;Hey, if you limit yourself by only dating white guys, you are only limiting your chances of finding someone you may fall in love with. Broaden your search and keep an open mind.&quot; I think that is reasonable. I call it the Charlotte lesson - Charlotte from &quot;Sex and the City&quot; thought that Trey was the perfect match based on a grocery list of what she perceived to be the &quot;perfect mate&quot;, but they had no chemistry. Then came the divorce. Then she came across Harry, and at first she was totally perplexed by her attraction to him, but then she realized that, hey, limiting yourself is silly. And they lived happily ever after.

I guess my conclusion would be - falling in love in rare. When you are blessed with that rare event that some people never experience, you&#039;ve won the lottery. Don&#039;t throw away that lottery ticket - cash it in!

And yes... TO HELL WITH EVERYONE ELSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying again&#8230; glad I saved it on notepad&#8230;<br />
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Rob:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great that J found someone with her required set of attributes, one of which was motivated by a sense of social justice. I hope it works out for them. But most importantly, I hope they are in love.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m skeptical of shopping for a partner with a particular set of attributes. Why? Finding a suitable partner is not like shopping for the perfect set of shoes or the perfect ingredients to make the perfect paella. Making a checklist and then following it by the book will not create chemistry. Keep an open mind, don&#8217;t limit yourself, and tear up those stupid shopping lists! </p>
<p>When two people fall in love with one another and they are truly compatible, it&#8217;s caused by forces of nature, and it happens very rarely. Some people never fall in love with anyone but choose to settle down with someone, because they think &#8220;well, fuck it, it&#8217;s time.&#8221; Or they don&#8217;t want to be alone. Or they just choose someone who fits the bill because of outside expectations. It&#8217;s sad. </p>
<p>So I take issue with the following sentence you wrote: &#8220;Asian men belong to Asian women and vice versa. They’re logically expected to be with each other.&#8221; Sorry, but WTF? Based on what reasoning? This reminds me of a quote in the trial court&#8217;s opinion in Loving v. Virginia: &#8220;Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for [interracial] marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.&#8221; That laughable opinion was written by a friendly neighborhood white supremacist judge back in Virginia in the 1960s who then subsequently banished an interracial couple from Virginia for 25 years. (Fortunately, the Supreme Court decided to come out of the dark ages and declare such anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional.) Okay, I went on a tangent, but I fail to see how Asian women and Asian men can be logically expected to be with each other unless the motivation is preserving ethnic purity, in which case the scary Loving v. Virginia lower court quote isn&#8217;t that far off&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I reject any type of directive that limits possibilities in the dating realm. </p>
<p>How about this? Instead of presenting the situation you described above as an affirmative action type of situation (which still paints Asian males as a group that needs help), why don&#8217;t you say, &#8220;Hey, if you limit yourself by only dating white guys, you are only limiting your chances of finding someone you may fall in love with. Broaden your search and keep an open mind.&#8221; I think that is reasonable. I call it the Charlotte lesson &#8211; Charlotte from &#8220;Sex and the City&#8221; thought that Trey was the perfect match based on a grocery list of what she perceived to be the &#8220;perfect mate&#8221;, but they had no chemistry. Then came the divorce. Then she came across Harry, and at first she was totally perplexed by her attraction to him, but then she realized that, hey, limiting yourself is silly. And they lived happily ever after.</p>
<p>I guess my conclusion would be &#8211; falling in love in rare. When you are blessed with that rare event that some people never experience, you&#8217;ve won the lottery. Don&#8217;t throw away that lottery ticket &#8211; cash it in!</p>
<p>And yes&#8230; TO HELL WITH EVERYONE ELSE!</p>
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