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In November 15th’s issue of The Wall Street Journal, a page one article “Chinese Dissidents Take On Beijing Via Media Empire” describes the efforts of overseas Chinese, including Chinese-Americans, to speak out against mainland China’s crackdown on Falun Gong (“”a Chinese spiritual-and-meditation movement banned by Beijing as an “evil cult.”"). The article also goes on to describe the efforts of individuals and organizations actively involved:
“…New Tang Dynasty broadcasts to the U.S., Europe and Asia, including China. It is one of a growing number of media organizations run mostly by Falun Gong practitioners, including a radio station and a newspaper with editions in 10 languages. There is also a film-production company, a performing-arts school, dozens of Web sites and a Chinese New Year cultural show, which has played around the world, including New York’s Radio City Music Hall and the Kennedy Center in Washington…Falun Gong follows in a long tradition of sects in China that have challenged the state. Falun Gong started in 1992 as a spiritual movement intended partly to improve practitioners’ health. While a government crackdown has largely contained Falun Gong in China, the group has flourished overseas, driven by well-educated practitioners who volunteer time, money and technological expertise to push their cause, to what some experts describe as a near-fanatical degree.”
The efforts are impressive. I remember going to the Chinese consulate in San Francisco to get my visa to visit China and seeing Falun Gong supporters protesting against the Chinese government. But I didn’t realize the extent of Falun Gong supporters’ existing overseas efforts.
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The above seem to show just how FG might mainpulate people."Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda." Their agenda seem to be to use NLP ecniques and manipulte people with subtile messages while seeing a lot of colourful dancing.
The above seem to show just how FG might mainpulate people."Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda." Their agenda seem to be to use NLP ecniques and manipulte people with subtile messages while seeing a lot of colourful dancing.
Here's the full story on the Boston Spectacular show by Bob Young of Boston Herald.
http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/arts_culture...
u00e2u0080u0098Chinese New Yearu00e2u0080u0099 is a spectacular
By Bob Young
Saturday, January 12, 2008
The audience at the u00e2u0080u009cChinese New Year Spectacularu00e2u0080u009d at the Opera House didnu00e2u0080u0099t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural showcase than advertised.
A few lines into soprano Min Jiangu00e2u0080u0099s operatic ballad u00e2u0080u009cI Sing for You,u00e2u0080u009d the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.
Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese governmentu00e2u0080u0099s attacks on u00e2u0080u009cour glorious cultureu00e2u0080u009d and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong, the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy permeated the show.
It was clear that the u00e2u0080u009cSpectacularu00e2u0080u009d was an earnest effort to offer up what its Falun Gong-affiliated presenter, New Tang Dynasty Television, argues is an important part of Chinese heritage and culture. So earnest, in fact, that the Chinese government recently put pressure on California and New York politicians to not recognize the event, currently on its fourth annual world tour.
The showu00e2u0080u0099s 150-person troupe did a good job of presenting its case. The two-and-a-half-hour program featured dancers and singers in a dazzling array of costumes, and a crack orchestra that seamlessly fused Chinese and Western classical instrumentation.
Together, they put a high gloss on segments ranging from 12th century military adventures and Mongolian bowl dancing to fan dancing and the power of thelotus blossom.
Bright background scenes underscored the idealized tone with rainbows arching above flowered meadows and sun rays kissing snowy mountain ranges.
Two peppy hosts followed their scripts precisely, explaining between musical numbers what the audience would see and hear, and what it meant. Some of these bits were as obvious as the hammer and sickle on the backs of black-clad police thugs who beat Falun Gong members in one dance number. Explanations were welcome in other numbers, particularly those where the plot revolved around divine visitors, fate and deities.
While a number of performers stood out - lead dancers Wendy Su and Leon Chao among them - and the showu00e2u0080u0099s choreography was competent enough, it likely took a true Falun Gong disciple to declare this Chinese New Year show spectacular. Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda.
Here's the full story on the Boston Spectacular show by Bob Young of Boston Herald.
http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/arts_culture...
u00e2u0080u0098Chinese New Yearu00e2u0080u0099 is a spectacular
By Bob Young
Saturday, January 12, 2008
The audience at the u00e2u0080u009cChinese New Year Spectacularu00e2u0080u009d at the Opera House didnu00e2u0080u0099t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural showcase than advertised.
A few lines into soprano Min Jiangu00e2u0080u0099s operatic ballad u00e2u0080u009cI Sing for You,u00e2u0080u009d the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.
Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese governmentu00e2u0080u0099s attacks on u00e2u0080u009cour glorious cultureu00e2u0080u009d and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong, the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy permeated the show.
It was clear that the u00e2u0080u009cSpectacularu00e2u0080u009d was an earnest effort to offer up what its Falun Gong-affiliated presenter, New Tang Dynasty Television, argues is an important part of Chinese heritage and culture. So earnest, in fact, that the Chinese government recently put pressure on California and New York politicians to not recognize the event, currently on its fourth annual world tour.
The showu00e2u0080u0099s 150-person troupe did a good job of presenting its case. The two-and-a-half-hour program featured dancers and singers in a dazzling array of costumes, and a crack orchestra that seamlessly fused Chinese and Western classical instrumentation.
Together, they put a high gloss on segments ranging from 12th century military adventures and Mongolian bowl dancing to fan dancing and the power of thelotus blossom.
Bright background scenes underscored the idealized tone with rainbows arching above flowered meadows and sun rays kissing snowy mountain ranges.
Two peppy hosts followed their scripts precisely, explaining between musical numbers what the audience would see and hear, and what it meant. Some of these bits were as obvious as the hammer and sickle on the backs of black-clad police thugs who beat Falun Gong members in one dance number. Explanations were welcome in other numbers, particularly those where the plot revolved around divine visitors, fate and deities.
While a number of performers stood out - lead dancers Wendy Su and Leon Chao among them - and the showu00e2u0080u0099s choreography was competent enough, it likely took a true Falun Gong disciple to declare this Chinese New Year show spectacular. Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda.
I've had the same experience when I went to check out their meetings.
As soon as they said that I could fly if I practiced enough, I was out of there. I've also heard of the "don't take medicine and all your ailments will disappear."
What a bunch of crackpots. It's no different than voodoo magic where belief overrides science.
I've had the same experience when I went to check out their meetings.
As soon as they said that I could fly if I practiced enough, I was out of there. I've also heard of the "don't take medicine and all your ailments will disappear."
What a bunch of crackpots. It's no different than voodoo magic where belief overrides science.
Seems like the show was not what it was advertised to be. Read this article by Bob Young.
"Friday, January 11, 2008
By Bob Young
The audience at the u00e2u0080u009cChinese New Year Spectacularu00e2u0080u009d at the Opera House
didnu00e2u0080u0099t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural
showcase than advertised.
A few lines into soprano Min Jiangu00e2u0080u0099s operatic ballad u00e2u0080u009cI Sing for You,u00e2u0080u009d
the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.
Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese governmentu00e2u0080u0099s attacks on
u00e2u0080u009cour glorious cultureu00e2u0080u009d and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong,
the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy
permeated the show."
Seems like there is a hidden agenda in this show.
Seems like the show was not what it was advertised to be. Read this article by Bob Young.
"Friday, January 11, 2008
By Bob Young
The audience at the u00e2u0080u009cChinese New Year Spectacularu00e2u0080u009d at the Opera House
didnu00e2u0080u0099t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural
showcase than advertised.
A few lines into soprano Min Jiangu00e2u0080u0099s operatic ballad u00e2u0080u009cI Sing for You,u00e2u0080u009d
the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.
Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese governmentu00e2u0080u0099s attacks on
u00e2u0080u009cour glorious cultureu00e2u0080u009d and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong,
the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy
permeated the show."
Seems like there is a hidden agenda in this show.
There is a chance to see some Falun Gong practitioners in case anyone interested:) NTDTV has its annual Chinese New Year Spectacular in CA later this month. The show is educational while being entertaining with world class performances. It introduces the rich culture of the ancient China to the west through form of art. This year's Spectacular is for the first time co-sponsored by Falun Dafa (aka Falun Gong) association. Many of the performers in the Divine Performing Arts troupe (with a live orchestra) are actually Falun Gong practitioners. Visit bestchineseshows.com for more information. There's a highlights video at http://www.bestchineseshows.com/2008intro
The show will make stops in LA, SF, SD among many other US cities in January before they start their world tour that will cover many countries in Euro, Australia, and Asia including Taiwan.
Here is some CA show info:
2008-01-15 / 01-17
San Diego, CA, US
California Center for the Arts, Escondido
2008-01-18 / 01-20
Los Angeles, CA, US
Nokia Theatre L.A.
2008-01-23 / 01-26
San Francisco, CA, US
Orpheum Theatre
There is a chance to see some Falun Gong practitioners in case anyone interested:) NTDTV has its annual Chinese New Year Spectacular in CA later this month. The show is educational while being entertaining with world class performances. It introduces the rich culture of the ancient China to the west through form of art. This year's Spectacular is for the first time co-sponsored by Falun Dafa (aka Falun Gong) association. Many of the performers in the Divine Performing Arts troupe (with a live orchestra) are actually Falun Gong practitioners. Visit bestchineseshows.com for more information. There's a highlights video at http://www.bestchineseshows.com/2008intro
The show will make stops in LA, SF, SD among many other US cities in January before they start their world tour that will cover many countries in Euro, Australia, and Asia including Taiwan.
Here is some CA show info:
2008-01-15 / 01-17
San Diego, CA, US
California Center for the Arts, Escondido
2008-01-18 / 01-20
Los Angeles, CA, US
Nokia Theatre L.A.
2008-01-23 / 01-26
San Francisco, CA, US
Orpheum Theatre
the opposing thinking of laws between the states and China are always an issue that seems to be never ending. In the states there seems to not be any direct law against cults as there is in China. China has always had harsher rules towrds its' people while the states let people live more freely. Free to a degree that China does not tolerate. So the Chinese state always argue that the US is a lose cannon with a bunch of amoral people. The Chinese regime prevents everyone from learning falun gong because they see it as a cult and that does not have so much to do especially with falun gong as it has to do with the system itself. A lot of things are proherbited to practice in China. Think about it, In the states people would still be able to freely follow falun gong no matter if it is a cult or not. There are many cults in the states and they are all legal to practice. So saying that falun gong is practiced all over the world and only in China they don't permit it is not a proof of falun gong not being a cult. It only tells that the democratic system exists in most countries in the world today. And these countries accept a lot of things from other cultures no matter they are good or not for people to follow. The Chinese government says they have stronger rules because they want to protect the people from what is not good for them. To have onces goverment telling you what is good or not is of course an issue that can be discussed in itself. Who decides what is good or bad for us? If falun gong is a cult who decides who should be allowed to practice it? where is the limit of how much harm it can bring up on people? Should our parents decides for us? Should our children decide for us becasue they consider us ill and old now? Should your goverment becasue they have an agenda and have banned it? What if your parents say that you cannot practice falun gong and you don't like what your parents say, can you revolt against them? What if your goverment tells you the same that you cannot practice falun gong what should you do then?
the opposing thinking of laws between the states and China are always an issue that seems to be never ending. In the states there seems to not be any direct law against cults as there is in China. China has always had harsher rules towrds its' people while the states let people live more freely. Free to a degree that China does not tolerate. So the Chinese state always argue that the US is a lose cannon with a bunch of amoral people. The Chinese regime prevents everyone from learning falun gong because they see it as a cult and that does not have so much to do especially with falun gong as it has to do with the system itself. A lot of things are proherbited to practice in China. Think about it, In the states people would still be able to freely follow falun gong no matter if it is a cult or not. There are many cults in the states and they are all legal to practice. So saying that falun gong is practiced all over the world and only in China they don't permit it is not a proof of falun gong not being a cult. It only tells that the democratic system exists in most countries in the world today. And these countries accept a lot of things from other cultures no matter they are good or not for people to follow. The Chinese government says they have stronger rules because they want to protect the people from what is not good for them. To have onces goverment telling you what is good or not is of course an issue that can be discussed in itself. Who decides what is good or bad for us? If falun gong is a cult who decides who should be allowed to practice it? where is the limit of how much harm it can bring up on people? Should our parents decides for us? Should our children decide for us becasue they consider us ill and old now? Should your goverment becasue they have an agenda and have banned it? What if your parents say that you cannot practice falun gong and you don't like what your parents say, can you revolt against them? What if your goverment tells you the same that you cannot practice falun gong what should you do then?
I did not want to comment again on this post, but I'm offended and completely outraged at the attack against Mr. Lee and his mother. His mother! For crying out loud, attack the theoretical content of his arguments and leave his mother out of it!
He took a step in a very vulnerable direction by sharing his personal story about his mother and how it affected his family. RESPECT THAT.
By the way, "a fiction of the lowest common denominator"? What does that even MEAN? Do you THINK before you write or do you just write in a fit?
I did not want to comment again on this post, but I'm offended and completely outraged at the attack against Mr. Lee and his mother. His mother! For crying out loud, attack the theoretical content of his arguments and leave his mother out of it!
He took a step in a very vulnerable direction by sharing his personal story about his mother and how it affected his family. RESPECT THAT.
By the way, "a fiction of the lowest common denominator"? What does that even MEAN? Do you THINK before you write or do you just write in a fit?
The Falun Gong members are trying to frame this issue as a "Human Rights" issue - but this is a personal story that I am sharing with others, and yet I am being attacked by this Nazi-like Machine of the Falun Gong. Who is the "Human Rights" advocate here? You people sound more like Nazis by trying to attack my personal story. You are worse than what you critcize others for, because you are hypocrites by attacking me personally.
The Falun Gong members are trying to frame this issue as a "Human Rights" issue - but this is a personal story that I am sharing with others, and yet I am being attacked by this Nazi-like Machine of the Falun Gong. Who is the "Human Rights" advocate here? You people sound more like Nazis by trying to attack my personal story. You are worse than what you critcize others for, because you are hypocrites by attacking me personally.
What 'Mr. Lee' writes above is a fiction of the lowest common denominator, like the propaganda in the nightmarish novel "1984". Just like the "double-speak" practiced by the authoritarian government in "1984" (where what the government says is just the opposite of the truth), it is widely known in human rights, government, and academic circles today that what frightens the Chinese Communist leadership most about Falun Gong practitioners is just that their minds cannot be easily controlled, and so they say that Li Hongzhi and Falun Gong are trying to control people's minds. That is a "double-speak".
I have read Mr. Li Hongzhi's (the founder of Falun Gong) books, and Falun Gong does not teach "fasting," does not teach "trance", and does not teach people to be off-balance. Quite the opposite, in his books, Li Hongzhi explains the origin of "fasting" as related to qigong and why Falun Gong does not incorporate this technique; he explains why Buddhist monks traditionally meditate in a state of trance and why Falun Gong does not practice in a state of trance and why practitioners should not lose awareness when practicing; and he talks about the ancient Chinese principle of the "middle way" and why it is important in life not to go to extremes and that practitioners of Falun Gong should maintain harmony in the family, think of others first in every situation, and be kind. He also goes to great length to explain why "truth-compassion-tolerance" is the characteristic of the universe.
I do not know why 'Mr. Lee' writes the things he does, but I can tell you first-hand that the same kind of hate fodder can be found coming from the communist Chinese state-controlled media beginning in 1999 (when the government began to persecute the practice). At that time, Falun Gong had become the most popular form of qigong in China, with a Chinese government census estimating that between 70-100 million people were practicing. I think that all it would take to know for yourself that what Mr. Lee has written are truly "double-speak," would be to read the original books of Falun Gong (www.falundafa.org), or you could could do as he suggested and go and speak to the Falun Gong practitioners in front of the Chinese embassy in San Francisco, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, etc. For the most part, they are retired old Chinese folk; they are quite rational, and they are there appealing for human rights because people in their country are being persecuted. Mr. Lee must assume that the majority of the people on the web have neither the time, ability, or the willingness to seek out the truth on their own. That is also precisely why lies can stand as truth for so long in a country like Communist China.
To my dismay, in my travels in China, I met Chinese people, even in Beijing, who still don't know that students were shot down in cold-blood in the 1989 Tiananman Square Massacre. In Communist China, the media reports that it was the students who attacked the soldiers in the so-called "Tiananmen Square Student Riots". When I showed the photo of the boy standing in front of the tank to a Chinese colleague of mine, she said that she didn't believe it and that it could have been made in Photoshop. I could hardly believe my ears. Time Magazine rated that photo one of the top 100 photos of the century! Now that really shows how strong and perverse a grip the Chinese Communist government has over people.
However, I think we all know that grip is fast losing its hold. Things are changing in China. Information is spreading. Even as the Chinese Communist regime last year spent over a billion dollars to "purify the Internet", and more recently, the regime recently passed a new law banning all streaming video content in China except for that on state-controlled websites staring in Jan-Feb 2008, still, more and more people are finding out different truths every day, and they are sharing with each other what they know and heard. Bye-bye 'Mr. Lee.'
What 'Mr. Lee' writes above is a fiction of the lowest common denominator, like the propaganda in the nightmarish novel "1984". Just like the "double-speak" practiced by the authoritarian government in "1984" (where what the government says is just the opposite of the truth), it is widely known in human rights, government, and academic circles today that what frightens the Chinese Communist leadership most about Falun Gong practitioners is just that their minds cannot be easily controlled, and so they say that Li Hongzhi and Falun Gong are trying to control people's minds. That is a "double-speak".
I have read Mr. Li Hongzhi's (the founder of Falun Gong) books, and Falun Gong does not teach "fasting," does not teach "trance", and does not teach people to be off-balance. Quite the opposite, in his books, Li Hongzhi explains the origin of "fasting" as related to qigong and why Falun Gong does not incorporate this technique; he explains why Buddhist monks traditionally meditate in a state of trance and why Falun Gong does not practice in a state of trance and why practitioners should not lose awareness when practicing; and he talks about the ancient Chinese principle of the "middle way" and why it is important in life not to go to extremes and that practitioners of Falun Gong should maintain harmony in the family, think of others first in every situation, and be kind. He also goes to great length to explain why "truth-compassion-tolerance" is the characteristic of the universe.
I do not know why 'Mr. Lee' writes the things he does, but I can tell you first-hand that the same kind of hate fodder can be found coming from the communist Chinese state-controlled media beginning in 1999 (when the government began to persecute the practice). At that time, Falun Gong had become the most popular form of qigong in China, with a Chinese government census estimating that between 70-100 million people were practicing. I think that all it would take to know for yourself that what Mr. Lee has written are truly "double-speak," would be to read the original books of Falun Gong (www.falundafa.org), or you could could do as he suggested and go and speak to the Falun Gong practitioners in front of the Chinese embassy in San Francisco, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, etc. For the most part, they are retired old Chinese folk; they are quite rational, and they are there appealing for human rights because people in their country are being persecuted. Mr. Lee must assume that the majority of the people on the web have neither the time, ability, or the willingness to seek out the truth on their own. That is also precisely why lies can stand as truth for so long in a country like Communist China.
To my dismay, in my travels in China, I met Chinese people, even in Beijing, who still don't know that students were shot down in cold-blood in the 1989 Tiananman Square Massacre. In Communist China, the media reports that it was the students who attacked the soldiers in the so-called "Tiananmen Square Student Riots". When I showed the photo of the boy standing in front of the tank to a Chinese colleague of mine, she said that she didn't believe it and that it could have been made in Photoshop. I could hardly believe my ears. Time Magazine rated that photo one of the top 100 photos of the century! Now that really shows how strong and perverse a grip the Chinese Communist government has over people.
However, I think we all know that grip is fast losing its hold. Things are changing in China. Information is spreading. Even as the Chinese Communist regime last year spent over a billion dollars to "purify the Internet", and more recently, the regime recently passed a new law banning all streaming video content in China except for that on state-controlled websites staring in Jan-Feb 2008, still, more and more people are finding out different truths every day, and they are sharing with each other what they know and heard. Bye-bye 'Mr. Lee.'
That methods of religious practice believe in gods, ailens, or reinkarnation does not make is a cult or a sect. If that was the case nrmal science would be a cult becuase it belives humans very likely develop from monkies. I think people aer focusing on the wrong htings here if they like to discuss if falun gong is a cult or not. It is not hte belief system but the behavior among people in the same sysetm as well as a systems leadership towards those that follow that can make something become a cult. To dfend falun gong with saying it is only about following a princple of being true good and forebearant says nothing of hte people practicing it still not being a cult.
Lee says he has a mother that, "At times she would be starving herself, acting like sheu00e2u0080u0099s in a trance, and thinking she had special powers. I have also seen the protestors that sit in front of the Chinese Embassy in San Francisco, and they all act like they are in a trance. Go try and talk to them and see what kind of magic powers they have - I heard their Dear Leader can walk through walls. I read a book about cults and part of the u00e2u0080u009cpracticeu00e2u0080u009d of starvation is to keep the mind and body off-balance, so the followers can be weak and easily controlled. Hey, if you find yourself or your family joining them - be prepared for someone who behaves u00e2u0080u009cperfectly normal, and resonableu00e2u0080u009d one moment, but then turn around the next minute and start staring at you like they can see your aura or something." This could very wel be a start of someone falling into a cult. Thogh, It does not have to be so. That people in the US with high education practice falun gong doesn't say much about it being could either. Mostt cults look for wealthy people. Just look at Tom Cruise. He is the one celebrity to spend most money on his belief. The scientologist church is a cult. Their are so many witness stories and police reports showing how they used mind controll to harm people so this is a common knowledge in the US. Falun gong is still pretty new in the US and so one would not find that many people that have left it yet to hear stories of how it really is. A person in high belief of any system will to a certain degree be mind controlled. Even our children get mind controlled by our educatinal system while in school and find out as adults that a lot of things weren't just as they were taught. Though, tto judge if a mind controlling system is harmful lies more in what affects teh system has on the indivudual and his or her relation to ones family. If the induvidual choices get lost while practicing something over time family members should be concerned. Please consider this when discussing if falun gong is a cult or not.
That methods of religious practice believe in gods, ailens, or reinkarnation does not make is a cult or a sect. If that was the case nrmal science would be a cult becuase it belives humans very likely develop from monkies. I think people aer focusing on the wrong htings here if they like to discuss if falun gong is a cult or not. It is not hte belief system but the behavior among people in the same sysetm as well as a systems leadership towards those that follow that can make something become a cult. To dfend falun gong with saying it is only about following a princple of being true good and forebearant says nothing of hte people practicing it still not being a cult.
Lee says he has a mother that, "At times she would be starving herself, acting like sheu00e2u0080u0099s in a trance, and thinking she had special powers. I have also seen the protestors that sit in front of the Chinese Embassy in San Francisco, and they all act like they are in a trance. Go try and talk to them and see what kind of magic powers they have - I heard their Dear Leader can walk through walls. I read a book about cults and part of the u00e2u0080u009cpracticeu00e2u0080u009d of starvation is to keep the mind and body off-balance, so the followers can be weak and easily controlled. Hey, if you find yourself or your family joining them - be prepared for someone who behaves u00e2u0080u009cperfectly normal, and resonableu00e2u0080u009d one moment, but then turn around the next minute and start staring at you like they can see your aura or something." This could very wel be a start of someone falling into a cult. Thogh, It does not have to be so. That people in the US with high education practice falun gong doesn't say much about it being could either. Mostt cults look for wealthy people. Just look at Tom Cruise. He is the one celebrity to spend most money on his belief. The scientologist church is a cult. Their are so many witness stories and police reports showing how they used mind controll to harm people so this is a common knowledge in the US. Falun gong is still pretty new in the US and so one would not find that many people that have left it yet to hear stories of how it really is. A person in high belief of any system will to a certain degree be mind controlled. Even our children get mind controlled by our educatinal system while in school and find out as adults that a lot of things weren't just as they were taught. Though, tto judge if a mind controlling system is harmful lies more in what affects teh system has on the indivudual and his or her relation to ones family. If the induvidual choices get lost while practicing something over time family members should be concerned. Please consider this when discussing if falun gong is a cult or not.
Your mom is sick and need help and don't blame this on FLG.
Your mom is sick and need help and don't blame this on FLG.
Based on what Mr. Lee indicated, his mother should be seeking medical attention, but, what does that have anything to do with Falun Gong?! I bet if anyone is willing to spend some time with Falun Gong people will conclude that they are normal people like everyone else. Of course, everyone has his or her priority, and Falun Gong practitioners happen to be busier with their effort to clarify misconceptions like what "Mr Lee" has posted above.
By the way, if someone were to randomly survey at a Falun Gong gathering, like their periodic experience sharing conference or large scale parade, he or she would find that the average education level of these people is very high, likely above US average.
Based on what Mr. Lee indicated, his mother should be seeking medical attention, but, what does that have anything to do with Falun Gong?! I bet if anyone is willing to spend some time with Falun Gong people will conclude that they are normal people like everyone else. Of course, everyone has his or her priority, and Falun Gong practitioners happen to be busier with their effort to clarify misconceptions like what "Mr Lee" has posted above.
By the way, if someone were to randomly survey at a Falun Gong gathering, like their periodic experience sharing conference or large scale parade, he or she would find that the average education level of these people is very high, likely above US average.
Akrypti is right! Falun Gong is "Full-of-It"! My Mother was so deep into practicing their cult religion, that it almost split my family apart. At times she would be starving herself, acting like she's in a trance, and thinking she had special powers. I have also seen the protestors that sit in front of the Chinese Embassy in San Francisco, and they all act like they are in a trance. Go try and talk to them and see what kind of magic powers they have - I heard their Dear Leader can walk through walls. I read a book about cults and part of the "practice" of starvation is to keep the mind and body off-balance, so the followers can be weak and easily controlled. Hey, if you find yourself or your family joining them - be prepared for someone who behaves "perfectly normal, and resonable" one moment, but then turn around the next minute and start staring at you like they can see your aura or something. I would rather my Mom be a Scientologist any day - than be a Falun Gong - at least Scientologists don't starve - they just believe in space aliens and become actors in Hollywood. Bring on the comments this is the truth.
Akrypti is right! Falun Gong is "Full-of-It"! My Mother was so deep into practicing their cult religion, that it almost split my family apart. At times she would be starving herself, acting like she's in a trance, and thinking she had special powers. I have also seen the protestors that sit in front of the Chinese Embassy in San Francisco, and they all act like they are in a trance. Go try and talk to them and see what kind of magic powers they have - I heard their Dear Leader can walk through walls. I read a book about cults and part of the "practice" of starvation is to keep the mind and body off-balance, so the followers can be weak and easily controlled. Hey, if you find yourself or your family joining them - be prepared for someone who behaves "perfectly normal, and resonable" one moment, but then turn around the next minute and start staring at you like they can see your aura or something. I would rather my Mom be a Scientologist any day - than be a Falun Gong - at least Scientologists don't starve - they just believe in space aliens and become actors in Hollywood. Bring on the comments this is the truth.
Show me the country who does not seize an opportunity to support human rights and I'll show you a country that seals its own fate.
This WSJ journalist and this country should be the first in line to suppport Falun Gong in its efforts to stand up against the persecution of those who practice Falun Gong-- a peaceful meditation practice. So what if NTDTV chooses to be the outlet for voices that have been forever silenced under communist oppression? So what? Maybe its so that you and I can have a chance to do something about it if we're brave enough--if we care enough--if we're not too complacent in enjoying our own freedom.
If the TV station is functioning with volunteers who give of their own means to keep it going, then shame on the huge media corporations who have money but give us trashy, irresponsible journalism for our "entertainment." There is little moral imperative anywhere nowadays--and when we see it in action, we either can't recognize it or we throw stones at it.
Wake up America! Maybe you media giants should take a lesson from New Tang Dynasty TV. Dig hard for the facts and give it to us straight!
Wayne G.
Show me the country who does not seize an opportunity to support human rights and I'll show you a country that seals its own fate.
This WSJ journalist and this country should be the first in line to suppport Falun Gong in its efforts to stand up against the persecution of those who practice Falun Gong-- a peaceful meditation practice. So what if NTDTV chooses to be the outlet for voices that have been forever silenced under communist oppression? So what? Maybe its so that you and I can have a chance to do something about it if we're brave enough--if we care enough--if we're not too complacent in enjoying our own freedom.
If the TV station is functioning with volunteers who give of their own means to keep it going, then shame on the huge media corporations who have money but give us trashy, irresponsible journalism for our "entertainment." There is little moral imperative anywhere nowadays--and when we see it in action, we either can't recognize it or we throw stones at it.
Wake up America! Maybe you media giants should take a lesson from New Tang Dynasty TV. Dig hard for the facts and give it to us straight!
Wayne G.
Wow, an active few days. I think there has been some overzealous responses from Falun Gong supporters; but this is inevitable. There is no membership or process of officialisation, and no one can stop anyone from saying anything. But I don't think some of these comments were the most useful.
Akrypti position is also inevitable.
Lao Zi said: "When a wise person hears the Tao, this person will practice it diligently. When an average person hears it, this person will practice it on and off. When a foolish person hears it, this person will laugh at it loudly. If this person doesnu00e2u0080u0099t laugh at it loudly, itu00e2u0080u0099s not the Tao."
But there are two points that anyone should be able to agree with: Falun Gong is innocent; the persecution is wrong.
It doesn't matter if Falun Gong is talking about flying spaghetti monsters and floating purple aliens with giant heads, or whatever ridiculous thing you can think of. For all practical purposes, as far as we are concerned, it may as well be talking about things like that. But it is free for anyone to do or not do, believe or not believe. The same goes with the teachings about medication. There are no edicts, no mechanisms of control, coercion, or exploitation. It is in essence a free, informal, and peaceful discpline. One either applies oneself to it or not. This is not an opinion. Falun Gong is a set of exercises and a series of free teachings. That's the objective reality of the situation. You can think it's a load of crap, but as far as it goes, it's not guilty of any wrongdoing. I won't say much about the persecution. Just look it up on the net; read the wikipedia article or something. It's an incredibly vile, disgusting, and truly evil thing.
It's not hard to pick the right side here, and that's all Falun Gong practitioners have been trying to get people to do.
Wow, an active few days. I think there has been some overzealous responses from Falun Gong supporters; but this is inevitable. There is no membership or process of officialisation, and no one can stop anyone from saying anything. But I don't think some of these comments were the most useful.
Akrypti position is also inevitable.
Lao Zi said: "When a wise person hears the Tao, this person will practice it diligently. When an average person hears it, this person will practice it on and off. When a foolish person hears it, this person will laugh at it loudly. If this person doesnu00e2u0080u0099t laugh at it loudly, itu00e2u0080u0099s not the Tao."
But there are two points that anyone should be able to agree with: Falun Gong is innocent; the persecution is wrong.
It doesn't matter if Falun Gong is talking about flying spaghetti monsters and floating purple aliens with giant heads, or whatever ridiculous thing you can think of. For all practical purposes, as far as we are concerned, it may as well be talking about things like that. But it is free for anyone to do or not do, believe or not believe. The same goes with the teachings about medication. There are no edicts, no mechanisms of control, coercion, or exploitation. It is in essence a free, informal, and peaceful discpline. One either applies oneself to it or not. This is not an opinion. Falun Gong is a set of exercises and a series of free teachings. That's the objective reality of the situation. You can think it's a load of crap, but as far as it goes, it's not guilty of any wrongdoing. I won't say much about the persecution. Just look it up on the net; read the wikipedia article or something. It's an incredibly vile, disgusting, and truly evil thing.
It's not hard to pick the right side here, and that's all Falun Gong practitioners have been trying to get people to do.
Which group is more zealous?
(1) Falun Gong practitioners
or
(2) Ron Paul supporters
Discuss.
:)
Which group is more zealous?
(1) Falun Gong practitioners
or
(2) Ron Paul supporters
Discuss.
:)
akrypti,
I don't think your flaming comments are all that helpful. I don't know much about the Falun Gong, so I don't know if I could compare it to Scientology or other beliefs such as Mormonism. But I think a more respectful tone towards debate would be appreciated by all.
John
akrypti,
I don't think your flaming comments are all that helpful. I don't know much about the Falun Gong, so I don't know if I could compare it to Scientology or other beliefs such as Mormonism. But I think a more respectful tone towards debate would be appreciated by all.
John
very lucky to be part of this "cult", the best thing ever happened to me. if people pay me a billion dollars to get out of it, i wouldn't do so.
very lucky to be part of this "cult", the best thing ever happened to me. if people pay me a billion dollars to get out of it, i wouldn't do so.
Mama taught me never to believe people who claim to speak the truth. Truth speaks for itself.
Falun Dafa is very likely a system of values, beliefs, and practices that have the potential to help people find spiritual well-being.
However, a large number of individuals who claim to be Falun Gong followers do not play with a full deck and many of those individuals have shown themselves and their psychoses right here on this page. If there was even a 1% chance before that I would consider respecting the Falun Gong institution as it is today, that 1% chance has been annihilated by you overzealous fanatics. I thought my previous encounter with followers had been one isolated experience of sheer negativity, but this has reaffirmed my perception that your institution as it presents itself to the public today is nothing more than a religious cult.
That's right. A cult. Look up the definition of "cult" [in an English dictionary] and all its elements apply to the Falun Gong institution in its present form.
Yay. Flame-bait. Who wants a nibble?
Mama taught me never to believe people who claim to speak the truth. Truth speaks for itself.
Falun Dafa is very likely a system of values, beliefs, and practices that have the potential to help people find spiritual well-being.
However, a large number of individuals who claim to be Falun Gong followers do not play with a full deck and many of those individuals have shown themselves and their psychoses right here on this page. If there was even a 1% chance before that I would consider respecting the Falun Gong institution as it is today, that 1% chance has been annihilated by you overzealous fanatics. I thought my previous encounter with followers had been one isolated experience of sheer negativity, but this has reaffirmed my perception that your institution as it presents itself to the public today is nothing more than a religious cult.
That's right. A cult. Look up the definition of "cult" [in an English dictionary] and all its elements apply to the Falun Gong institution in its present form.
Yay. Flame-bait. Who wants a nibble?
I am 31, married and runs a successful business, I came to the states from China when I was 13 so I treasure democracy and respect human rights. I've been following Falun Dafa for 8 years and if someone say I'm in a "evil cult", I take it personally because what Falun Gong asks me to do is nothing but "truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance." What I have obtained is nothing but good health and inner peace. I understand very well why people have this wrongful perception of Falun Gong, and I'll do my very best to let them know the truth that Falun Gong is good.
Been here long enough, I don't care about the CCP or politics. However, the Chinese Communist Party have hurt everyone through this persecution and propaganda. Anyone who benefit from DAFA and have some sense would take action and do the least which is tell the world the truth.
I am 31, married and runs a successful business, I came to the states from China when I was 13 so I treasure democracy and respect human rights. I've been following Falun Dafa for 8 years and if someone say I'm in a "evil cult", I take it personally because what Falun Gong asks me to do is nothing but "truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance." What I have obtained is nothing but good health and inner peace. I understand very well why people have this wrongful perception of Falun Gong, and I'll do my very best to let them know the truth that Falun Gong is good.
Been here long enough, I don't care about the CCP or politics. However, the Chinese Communist Party have hurt everyone through this persecution and propaganda. Anyone who benefit from DAFA and have some sense would take action and do the least which is tell the world the truth.
I am a Westerner, but I have lived and worked in China, and I have volunteered my time in the Chinese community here in states, teaching English, doing dragon dance performances, and especially trying to help people understand that Falun Gong is very peaceful and that it is not a "cult". The truth is that many of us here in the U.S. have innocent friends and relatives in China who have been persecuted, tortured and murdered under the Chinese Communist Party. So we know first-hand that the reports by human rights groups, the United Nations, and many governments that detail the persecution and torture of innocent Chinese citizens who practice Falun Gong (such as torturing and even killing people and selling their organs) are based on facts, eye-witness and personal accounts, and even the dead, mutilated bodies of loved ones who died in Chinese prisons or labor camps.
After reading Akrypti's several posts on this topic, it doesn't matter to me if Akrypti works for the Chinese gov't or not, but it is clear that they are spreading the same hate, lies, and propaganda about Falun Gong and even have a vast collection of propaganda articles just for that task. I don't know if Akrypti has a belief, but I know that beliefs are what make people different than animals on a farm. I also know that Akrypti is a human being and so I hope that they will stop spreading hatred and misinformation, take a step back, and consider things again. Akrypti, please don't respond by saying that human rights groups and governments like the U.S. and Canada are reporting the torture and murder of thousands of innocent Chinese people who practice Falun Gong because they want to ruin the reputation of China ahead of the Olympics or that they are the "anit-China forces". The fact is that we Americans, us average citizens, do care a great deal about Chinese people who are victims of human rights abuses... not because we have something to gain, but because we know we are the lucky ones, and we have compassion for those who are suffering. Take care Akrypti,
Pan Jie
I am a Westerner, but I have lived and worked in China, and I have volunteered my time in the Chinese community here in states, teaching English, doing dragon dance performances, and especially trying to help people understand that Falun Gong is very peaceful and that it is not a "cult". The truth is that many of us here in the U.S. have innocent friends and relatives in China who have been persecuted, tortured and murdered under the Chinese Communist Party. So we know first-hand that the reports by human rights groups, the United Nations, and many governments that detail the persecution and torture of innocent Chinese citizens who practice Falun Gong (such as torturing and even killing people and selling their organs) are based on facts, eye-witness and personal accounts, and even the dead, mutilated bodies of loved ones who died in Chinese prisons or labor camps.
After reading Akrypti's several posts on this topic, it doesn't matter to me if Akrypti works for the Chinese gov't or not, but it is clear that they are spreading the same hate, lies, and propaganda about Falun Gong and even have a vast collection of propaganda articles just for that task. I don't know if Akrypti has a belief, but I know that beliefs are what make people different than animals on a farm. I also know that Akrypti is a human being and so I hope that they will stop spreading hatred and misinformation, take a step back, and consider things again. Akrypti, please don't respond by saying that human rights groups and governments like the U.S. and Canada are reporting the torture and murder of thousands of innocent Chinese people who practice Falun Gong because they want to ruin the reputation of China ahead of the Olympics or that they are the "anit-China forces". The fact is that we Americans, us average citizens, do care a great deal about Chinese people who are victims of human rights abuses... not because we have something to gain, but because we know we are the lucky ones, and we have compassion for those who are suffering. Take care Akrypti,
Pan Jie
Akaypti,
In order to figure out why you have such inrational opinion toward Falun Gong, I want to know some your background information. From your website, you told us that you are second generation of Taiwaness American. I feel very bad to read all your articles and your feedback to others for this point. It extremely hurt all chinese people who have been persecuting genenation to genenation by evil Chinese Commuinst regime since 1949 to now.
I was born in China and grew up there until 24 years old. I made the strong efforts to escapted from China to oversea because I hate CCP( chinese communist party), I deeply felt how the freedom is worth than my life. However CCP never regard Freedom as the normal human rights, and treat Chinese people with gun fires any times and any reasons.
As a Taiwanese, you may not have kind of experience than most Chinese people have in mainland China. So, you believe eveything what the CCP medias said and applis these slanderous words as a sort of evidence to be foolly decieved by it.
Sadly enough, as a Taiwanese, your parents may not tell you about what the true history of how Chinese people have been brutally killed decades by decades. I like history so much since it provides us the lesson which we need to learn. However, throughout more 50 years, we are not able to read the true history, all from our school test books and medias are lies. I was rasied by my grandparents, my grandma had told me something which is totally different from what I had learned from the school and books. I would not question what my grandma told me since she was the person who loved me most in the world. When I got older, I learned something from my own eyes, I realized that all my grandma had said was ture. CCP is evil enough to go hell.
I no longer believe what all medias say something from CCP, all medias is just a tool of CCP' to decieve and fool chinese people. It is sort of successful to fool people in China and outside of china. look like you, who was born in U.S where is free land, and have same chinese cultural background, I must say sorry, but you are definetely the exmple of how been fooled and decived by CCP lies.
From what you copied the vicious words to slander the Falun Gong practitioners, I did feel hurt, not for myself since I am a Falun Dafa practitioner, just for you. You oridinary have a pure mind, but now it is no longer pure, it is dirted by CCP lies.
many of feedback from all chinese or Americans, all try to help you to have a right thoughts about Falun gong. However, you not only show me that you just ignore the right points from them, but you attacked on their kindness.
What is Falun Gong, when I was a college stuent in China, it was middle of 1980s, the periods of all kinds Qingong were popular. I was interested in all supernatural practices. I left China in 1992. I have never heard about Falun Gong at that time. I heard it when it was 1999 since it was baned by CCP. Following my common sense, everything which was banned and attacked by CCP means the good enough. It is very simple. how could the demon not against the Angle?
I tried to find the book to read it. Finally, I didn't find any word which were cited to attack our Master from CCP medias. It was a good book to teach people how to be a good person. that was first impression on me, after I skipped reading Zhuan Falun. I didn't have thought to want be a practitioner since I was practiaing the Dao school for more five years.
After I came to U.S, one day I met the Falun Gong practitioners in the park of LA, I read the materials on the floor, I was shocked by all brutal persecutions, I never doubt if these materials are not ture. It is because I have read the Book already, I know what they have to follow the Truthfulness, compassion and foberance. As Master Li said that if you are not follow these principle, just do exercise, I won't regard you as my student.( it is not quote,just the main meanings), another reason I know how evil the CCP is, and how many innocent Chinese people have been tortured to death throughout the 50 years of CCP controlling. My grandparents had been tortured as well even thought they were very kind and innocent chinese. My grandpa had been sent to labor campus for more than 15 years. During WWI, he was in the army of the former government( which is government in Taiwan now). The CCP killed so many chinese who had work for former government. My grandpa was luck because his son-in-law who is my father was a kind of CCP official. If your grand preants were from Mainland China in 1949, they must know how brutally their old co-workers been killed by CCP.
The reason of that I walked in the gate of practicing Falun gong is that simple: I was so touched by these group people who take the risk of their lives to tell the world: falun dafa is good. At that moment when I konw that in the another place of this world, so many such good chinese people are torturing and eventually been killed day by day, my heart was no longer intereted in anything than this issue. I told myself to help this group people becasue of the value of freedom. I was seeking the freedom since I was in college, for seeking the freedom, I have to leave my elderly grandparents whom need my help. My grandma knew how the CCP had killed people, so she told me if you had any chance to get away from China, just go, to find your own free life.
you are been the free land, you never know how the Chinese people for been killed just for the freedom of their right. To do meditation, just as a air of our breath everyday here, but in China, our Falun Gong practitioners had to die for this.
I don't think that I need to tell you more about the brutal killing happening in China now. All you cite the information here are directly and indirectly from CCP slanderious propangada.
Please, my friend, learn something with your mind, and listen to the truth. It is just good for you and your life.
Since you are young, and your life is pretty long jounery, however if we are not able to idetify what is good from evil, then our lives would be blocked...without any brightness..
hope, and very sincerely hope you have righteous thoughts with Falun Dafa.
Truthfulness, Compassion, and Torelance. the world today does urgely need these principle. each of our pracitioner would like to tell you thousand true stories about how these principles have improved our own live's quality, as well as our physical condition.
Yes, I didn't take any medicine since I rarely get sick. I work hard everyday, I don't feel tired due to my practice Falun Gong. How wonderful it is for my life. Peaceful mind and perfect body.
Sorry for my long letter. I just want to be your friend, and tell you what my life experience througout...
Jane Huang
Akaypti,
In order to figure out why you have such inrational opinion toward Falun Gong, I want to know some your background information. From your website, you told us that you are second generation of Taiwaness American. I feel very bad to read all your articles and your feedback to others for this point. It extremely hurt all chinese people who have been persecuting genenation to genenation by evil Chinese Commuinst regime since 1949 to now.
I was born in China and grew up there until 24 years old. I made the strong efforts to escapted from China to oversea because I hate CCP( chinese communist party), I deeply felt how the freedom is worth than my life. However CCP never regard Freedom as the normal human rights, and treat Chinese people with gun fires any times and any reasons.
As a Taiwanese, you may not have kind of experience than most Chinese people have in mainland China. So, you believe eveything what the CCP medias said and applis these slanderous words as a sort of evidence to be foolly decieved by it.
Sadly enough, as a Taiwanese, your parents may not tell you about what the true history of how Chinese people have been brutally killed decades by decades. I like history so much since it provides us the lesson which we need to learn. However, throughout more 50 years, we are not able to read the true history, all from our school test books and medias are lies. I was rasied by my grandparents, my grandma had told me something which is totally different from what I had learned from the school and books. I would not question what my grandma told me since she was the person who loved me most in the world. When I got older, I learned something from my own eyes, I realized that all my grandma had said was ture. CCP is evil enough to go hell.
I no longer believe what all medias say something from CCP, all medias is just a tool of CCP' to decieve and fool chinese people. It is sort of successful to fool people in China and outside of china. look like you, who was born in U.S where is free land, and have same chinese cultural background, I must say sorry, but you are definetely the exmple of how been fooled and decived by CCP lies.
From what you copied the vicious words to slander the Falun Gong practitioners, I did feel hurt, not for myself since I am a Falun Dafa practitioner, just for you. You oridinary have a pure mind, but now it is no longer pure, it is dirted by CCP lies.
many of feedback from all chinese or Americans, all try to help you to have a right thoughts about Falun gong. However, you not only show me that you just ignore the right points from them, but you attacked on their kindness.
What is Falun Gong, when I was a college stuent in China, it was middle of 1980s, the periods of all kinds Qingong were popular. I was interested in all supernatural practices. I left China in 1992. I have never heard about Falun Gong at that time. I heard it when it was 1999 since it was baned by CCP. Following my common sense, everything which was banned and attacked by CCP means the good enough. It is very simple. how could the demon not against the Angle?
I tried to find the book to read it. Finally, I didn't find any word which were cited to attack our Master from CCP medias. It was a good book to teach people how to be a good person. that was first impression on me, after I skipped reading Zhuan Falun. I didn't have thought to want be a practitioner since I was practiaing the Dao school for more five years.
After I came to U.S, one day I met the Falun Gong practitioners in the park of LA, I read the materials on the floor, I was shocked by all brutal persecutions, I never doubt if these materials are not ture. It is because I have read the Book already, I know what they have to follow the Truthfulness, compassion and foberance. As Master Li said that if you are not follow these principle, just do exercise, I won't regard you as my student.( it is not quote,just the main meanings), another reason I know how evil the CCP is, and how many innocent Chinese people have been tortured to death throughout the 50 years of CCP controlling. My grandparents had been tortured as well even thought they were very kind and innocent chinese. My grandpa had been sent to labor campus for more than 15 years. During WWI, he was in the army of the former government( which is government in Taiwan now). The CCP killed so many chinese who had work for former government. My grandpa was luck because his son-in-law who is my father was a kind of CCP official. If your grand preants were from Mainland China in 1949, they must know how brutally their old co-workers been killed by CCP.
The reason of that I walked in the gate of practicing Falun gong is that simple: I was so touched by these group people who take the risk of their lives to tell the world: falun dafa is good. At that moment when I konw that in the another place of this world, so many such good chinese people are torturing and eventually been killed day by day, my heart was no longer intereted in anything than this issue. I told myself to help this group people becasue of the value of freedom. I was seeking the freedom since I was in college, for seeking the freedom, I have to leave my elderly grandparents whom need my help. My grandma knew how the CCP had killed people, so she told me if you had any chance to get away from China, just go, to find your own free life.
you are been the free land, you never know how the Chinese people for been killed just for the freedom of their right. To do meditation, just as a air of our breath everyday here, but in China, our Falun Gong practitioners had to die for this.
I don't think that I need to tell you more about the brutal killing happening in China now. All you cite the information here are directly and indirectly from CCP slanderious propangada.
Please, my friend, learn something with your mind, and listen to the truth. It is just good for you and your life.
Since you are young, and your life is pretty long jounery, however if we are not able to idetify what is good from evil, then our lives would be blocked...without any brightness..
hope, and very sincerely hope you have righteous thoughts with Falun Dafa.
Truthfulness, Compassion, and Torelance. the world today does urgely need these principle. each of our pracitioner would like to tell you thousand true stories about how these principles have improved our own live's quality, as well as our physical condition.
Yes, I didn't take any medicine since I rarely get sick. I work hard everyday, I don't feel tired due to my practice Falun Gong. How wonderful it is for my life. Peaceful mind and perfect body.
Sorry for my long letter. I just want to be your friend, and tell you what my life experience througout...
Jane Huang
Falun Dafa is good. Falun Dafa encourages people to be good, and allows a practitioner to freely study and enlighten to the priciples on their own. There are no membership requirements. Falun Dafa asks that you be a law abiding citizen. It encourages you to take good care of your mind and body. It does not engage in the persecution of any other individual or group. You can practice Dafa if you want to and if you don't want to no one will persecute you or prohibit you from following your own path, in fact it is encouraged that you do follow your own path. We all have our own issues to enlighten to.
It is not reasonable to expect everybody to understand Dafa or be a practitioner. All we ask is for the right to practice with out retribution. That should be a universal right to all of humankind; to practice your spirituality as you wish without fear of retribution.
Please realize that Falun Dafa, as well as, other spiritual beliefs ARE persecuted in China. The organ harvesting is real and the Chinese government has not been able to adequately refute that.
Truthfulness-Compassion-Tolerance are the fundamental principles of Falun Dafa. Those are qualities that all of humankind could use more of, whatever spiritual path you choose.
Thank you
Falun Dafa is good. Falun Dafa encourages people to be good, and allows a practitioner to freely study and enlighten to the priciples on their own. There are no membership requirements. Falun Dafa asks that you be a law abiding citizen. It encourages you to take good care of your mind and body. It does not engage in the persecution of any other individual or group. You can practice Dafa if you want to and if you don't want to no one will persecute you or prohibit you from following your own path, in fact it is encouraged that you do follow your own path. We all have our own issues to enlighten to.
It is not reasonable to expect everybody to understand Dafa or be a practitioner. All we ask is for the right to practice with out retribution. That should be a universal right to all of humankind; to practice your spirituality as you wish without fear of retribution.
Please realize that Falun Dafa, as well as, other spiritual beliefs ARE persecuted in China. The organ harvesting is real and the Chinese government has not been able to adequately refute that.
Truthfulness-Compassion-Tolerance are the fundamental principles of Falun Dafa. Those are qualities that all of humankind could use more of, whatever spiritual path you choose.
Thank you
Hello all you Chinafiles, especially akrypti. Have you read The Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party which details its short 50 odd year history which includes the unnatural deaths of 80 million Chinese nationals? Falun Gong practitioners are just one more focus group to add to the casualty list of the CCP. Now when even CCP members are openly calling for the end to the persecution of Falun Gong and over 28 million CCP members have renounced their affiliation with the CCP, you still need to assert your loyalty to the CCP based on the CCP's irrational, immoral and unconstitutional persecution of Falun Gong. Too bad you want to side with murder and torture instead of Truthfulness, Compassion and Tolerance ie the principles of Falun Gong.
Hello all you Chinafiles, especially akrypti. Have you read The Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party which details its short 50 odd year history which includes the unnatural deaths of 80 million Chinese nationals? Falun Gong practitioners are just one more focus group to add to the casualty list of the CCP. Now when even CCP members are openly calling for the end to the persecution of Falun Gong and over 28 million CCP members have renounced their affiliation with the CCP, you still need to assert your loyalty to the CCP based on the CCP's irrational, immoral and unconstitutional persecution of Falun Gong. Too bad you want to side with murder and torture instead of Truthfulness, Compassion and Tolerance ie the principles of Falun Gong.
akrypti,
I'm glad you said "Iu00e2u0080u0099m vehemently against the Communist Partyu00e2u0080u0099s approach and clearly it is wrong to persecute Falun Gong practitioners."
But, it seems to me that you would rather listen to, and help spread, lies from the CCP than to pay attention to the facts. Sorry, just my opinion.
Falun Dafa is good.
akrypti,
I'm glad you said "Iu00e2u0080u0099m vehemently against the Communist Partyu00e2u0080u0099s approach and clearly it is wrong to persecute Falun Gong practitioners."
But, it seems to me that you would rather listen to, and help spread, lies from the CCP than to pay attention to the facts. Sorry, just my opinion.
Falun Dafa is good.
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