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	<title>Comments on: WSJ: Chinese Dissidents Take On Beijing Via Media Empire</title>
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		<title>By: Goldman</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/14/wsj-chinese-dissidents-take-on-beijing-via-media-empire/comment-page-1/#comment-51420</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above seem to show just how FG might mainpulate people.&quot;Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda.&quot; Their agenda seem to be to use NLP ecniques and manipulte people with subtile messages while seeing a lot of colourful dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above seem to show just how FG might mainpulate people.&#8221;Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda.&#8221; Their agenda seem to be to use NLP ecniques and manipulte people with subtile messages while seeing a lot of colourful dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Y</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/14/wsj-chinese-dissidents-take-on-beijing-via-media-empire/comment-page-1/#comment-51358</link>
		<dc:creator>John Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the full story on the Boston Spectacular show by Bob Young of Boston Herald.

http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/arts_culture/view.bg?articleid=1066025&amp;srvc=home&amp;position=also


‘Chinese New Year’ is a spectacular
By Bob Young
Saturday, January 12, 2008 

The audience at the “Chinese New Year Spectacular” at the Opera House didn’t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural showcase than advertised.

A few lines into soprano Min Jiang’s operatic ballad “I Sing for You,” the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.

Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese government’s attacks on “our glorious culture” and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong, the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy permeated the show.

It was clear that the “Spectacular” was an earnest effort to offer up what its Falun Gong-affiliated presenter, New Tang Dynasty Television, argues is an important part of Chinese heritage and culture. So earnest, in fact, that the Chinese government recently put pressure on California and New York politicians to not recognize the event, currently on its fourth annual world tour.

The show’s 150-person troupe did a good job of presenting its case. The two-and-a-half-hour program featured dancers and singers in a dazzling array of costumes, and a crack orchestra that seamlessly fused Chinese and Western classical instrumentation.

Together, they put a high gloss on segments ranging from 12th century military adventures and Mongolian bowl dancing to fan dancing and the power of thelotus blossom.

Bright background scenes underscored the idealized tone with rainbows arching above flowered meadows and sun rays kissing snowy mountain ranges.

Two peppy hosts followed their scripts precisely, explaining between musical numbers what the audience would see and hear, and what it meant. Some of these bits were as obvious as the hammer and sickle on the backs of black-clad police thugs who beat Falun Gong members in one dance number. Explanations were welcome in other numbers, particularly those where the plot revolved around divine visitors, fate and deities.

While a number of performers stood out - lead dancers Wendy Su and Leon Chao among them - and the show’s choreography was competent enough, it likely took a true Falun Gong disciple to declare this Chinese New Year show spectacular. Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the full story on the Boston Spectacular show by Bob Young of Boston Herald.</p>
<p><a href="http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/arts_culture/view.bg?articleid=1066025&amp;srvc=home&amp;position=also" rel="nofollow">http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/arts_culture/view.bg?articleid=1066025&amp;srvc=home&amp;position=also</a></p>
<p>‘Chinese New Year’ is a spectacular<br />
By Bob Young<br />
Saturday, January 12, 2008 </p>
<p>The audience at the “Chinese New Year Spectacular” at the Opera House didn’t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural showcase than advertised.</p>
<p>A few lines into soprano Min Jiang’s operatic ballad “I Sing for You,” the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.</p>
<p>Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese government’s attacks on “our glorious culture” and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong, the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy permeated the show.</p>
<p>It was clear that the “Spectacular” was an earnest effort to offer up what its Falun Gong-affiliated presenter, New Tang Dynasty Television, argues is an important part of Chinese heritage and culture. So earnest, in fact, that the Chinese government recently put pressure on California and New York politicians to not recognize the event, currently on its fourth annual world tour.</p>
<p>The show’s 150-person troupe did a good job of presenting its case. The two-and-a-half-hour program featured dancers and singers in a dazzling array of costumes, and a crack orchestra that seamlessly fused Chinese and Western classical instrumentation.</p>
<p>Together, they put a high gloss on segments ranging from 12th century military adventures and Mongolian bowl dancing to fan dancing and the power of thelotus blossom.</p>
<p>Bright background scenes underscored the idealized tone with rainbows arching above flowered meadows and sun rays kissing snowy mountain ranges.</p>
<p>Two peppy hosts followed their scripts precisely, explaining between musical numbers what the audience would see and hear, and what it meant. Some of these bits were as obvious as the hammer and sickle on the backs of black-clad police thugs who beat Falun Gong members in one dance number. Explanations were welcome in other numbers, particularly those where the plot revolved around divine visitors, fate and deities.</p>
<p>While a number of performers stood out &#8211; lead dancers Wendy Su and Leon Chao among them &#8211; and the show’s choreography was competent enough, it likely took a true Falun Gong disciple to declare this Chinese New Year show spectacular. Mixing politics, religion and art is tricky business, and best received when the art transcends the agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/14/wsj-chinese-dissidents-take-on-beijing-via-media-empire/comment-page-1/#comment-51278</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the same experience when I went to check out their meetings.

As soon as they said that I could fly if I practiced enough, I was out of there.  I&#039;ve also heard of the &quot;don&#039;t take medicine and all your ailments will disappear.&quot;

What a bunch of crackpots.  It&#039;s no different than voodoo magic where belief overrides science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the same experience when I went to check out their meetings.</p>
<p>As soon as they said that I could fly if I practiced enough, I was out of there.  I&#8217;ve also heard of the &#8220;don&#8217;t take medicine and all your ailments will disappear.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a bunch of crackpots.  It&#8217;s no different than voodoo magic where belief overrides science.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like the show was not what it was advertised to be. Read this article by Bob Young.
&quot;Friday, January 11, 2008
By Bob Young
The audience at the “Chinese New Year Spectacular” at the Opera House 
didn’t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural 
showcase than advertised.
A few lines into soprano Min Jiang’s operatic ballad “I Sing for You,” 
the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.
Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese government’s attacks on 
“our glorious culture” and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong, 
the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy 
permeated the show.&quot;
Seems like there is a hidden agenda in this show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the show was not what it was advertised to be. Read this article by Bob Young.<br />
&#8220;Friday, January 11, 2008<br />
By Bob Young<br />
The audience at the “Chinese New Year Spectacular” at the Opera House<br />
didn’t have to wait long to discover there was more to this cultural<br />
showcase than advertised.<br />
A few lines into soprano Min Jiang’s operatic ballad “I Sing for You,”<br />
the subtitles on a giant screen began laying out the not-so-subtle subtext.<br />
Pointed phrases damned the Communist Chinese government’s attacks on<br />
“our glorious culture” and its repressive tactics against Falun Gong,<br />
the self-improvement-through-spirituality movement whose philosophy<br />
permeated the show.&#8221;<br />
Seems like there is a hidden agenda in this show.</p>
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		<title>By: John Y</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/14/wsj-chinese-dissidents-take-on-beijing-via-media-empire/comment-page-1/#comment-50656</link>
		<dc:creator>John Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a chance to see some Falun Gong practitioners in case anyone interested:)  NTDTV has its annual Chinese New Year Spectacular in CA later this month.  The show is educational while being entertaining with world class performances.  It introduces the rich culture of the ancient China to the west through form of art.  This year&#039;s Spectacular is for the first time co-sponsored by Falun Dafa (aka Falun Gong) association.  Many of the performers in the Divine Performing Arts troupe (with a live orchestra) are actually Falun Gong practitioners.  Visit bestchineseshows.com for more information.  There&#039;s a highlights video at http://www.bestchineseshows.com/2008intro

The show will make stops in LA, SF, SD among many other US cities in January before they start their world tour that will cover many countries in Euro, Australia, and Asia including Taiwan.  

Here is some CA show info:

2008-01-15 / 01-17	
San Diego, CA, US	
California Center for the Arts, Escondido

2008-01-18 / 01-20	
Los Angeles, CA, US	
Nokia Theatre L.A. 

2008-01-23 / 01-26	
San Francisco, CA, US
Orpheum Theatre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a chance to see some Falun Gong practitioners in case anyone interested:)  NTDTV has its annual Chinese New Year Spectacular in CA later this month.  The show is educational while being entertaining with world class performances.  It introduces the rich culture of the ancient China to the west through form of art.  This year&#8217;s Spectacular is for the first time co-sponsored by Falun Dafa (aka Falun Gong) association.  Many of the performers in the Divine Performing Arts troupe (with a live orchestra) are actually Falun Gong practitioners.  Visit bestchineseshows.com for more information.  There&#8217;s a highlights video at <a href="http://www.bestchineseshows.com/2008intro" rel="nofollow">http://www.bestchineseshows.com/2008intro</a></p>
<p>The show will make stops in LA, SF, SD among many other US cities in January before they start their world tour that will cover many countries in Euro, Australia, and Asia including Taiwan.  </p>
<p>Here is some CA show info:</p>
<p>2008-01-15 / 01-17<br />
San Diego, CA, US<br />
California Center for the Arts, Escondido</p>
<p>2008-01-18 / 01-20<br />
Los Angeles, CA, US<br />
Nokia Theatre L.A. </p>
<p>2008-01-23 / 01-26<br />
San Francisco, CA, US<br />
Orpheum Theatre</p>
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		<title>By: Goldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the opposing thinking of  laws between the states and China are always an issue that seems to be never ending. In the states there seems to not be any direct law against cults as there is in China. China has always had harsher rules towrds its&#039; people while the states let people live more freely. Free to a degree that China does not tolerate. So the Chinese state always argue that the US is a lose cannon with a bunch of amoral people. The Chinese regime prevents everyone from learning falun gong because they see it as a cult  and that does not have so much to do especially with falun gong as it has to do with the system itself. A lot of things are proherbited to practice in China. Think about it, In the states people would still be able to freely follow falun gong no matter if it is a cult or not. There are many cults in the states and they are all legal to practice.  So saying that falun gong is practiced all over the world and only in China they don&#039;t permit it is not a proof of falun gong not being a cult. It only tells that the democratic system exists in most countries in the world today. And these countries accept a lot of things from other cultures no matter they are good or not for people to follow. The Chinese government says they have stronger rules because they want to protect the people from what is not good for them. To have onces goverment telling you what is good or not is of course an issue that can be discussed in itself. Who decides what is good or bad for us? If falun gong is a cult who decides who should be allowed to practice it? where is the limit of how much harm it can bring up on people? Should our parents decides for us? Should our children decide for us becasue they consider us ill and old now? Should your goverment becasue they have an agenda and  have banned it? What if your parents say that you cannot practice falun gong and you don&#039;t like what your parents say, can you revolt against them? What if your goverment tells you the same that you cannot practice falun gong what should you do then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the opposing thinking of  laws between the states and China are always an issue that seems to be never ending. In the states there seems to not be any direct law against cults as there is in China. China has always had harsher rules towrds its&#8217; people while the states let people live more freely. Free to a degree that China does not tolerate. So the Chinese state always argue that the US is a lose cannon with a bunch of amoral people. The Chinese regime prevents everyone from learning falun gong because they see it as a cult  and that does not have so much to do especially with falun gong as it has to do with the system itself. A lot of things are proherbited to practice in China. Think about it, In the states people would still be able to freely follow falun gong no matter if it is a cult or not. There are many cults in the states and they are all legal to practice.  So saying that falun gong is practiced all over the world and only in China they don&#8217;t permit it is not a proof of falun gong not being a cult. It only tells that the democratic system exists in most countries in the world today. And these countries accept a lot of things from other cultures no matter they are good or not for people to follow. The Chinese government says they have stronger rules because they want to protect the people from what is not good for them. To have onces goverment telling you what is good or not is of course an issue that can be discussed in itself. Who decides what is good or bad for us? If falun gong is a cult who decides who should be allowed to practice it? where is the limit of how much harm it can bring up on people? Should our parents decides for us? Should our children decide for us becasue they consider us ill and old now? Should your goverment becasue they have an agenda and  have banned it? What if your parents say that you cannot practice falun gong and you don&#8217;t like what your parents say, can you revolt against them? What if your goverment tells you the same that you cannot practice falun gong what should you do then?</p>
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		<title>By: akrypti</title>
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		<dc:creator>akrypti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not want to comment again on this post, but I&#039;m offended and completely outraged at the attack against Mr. Lee and his mother. His mother! For crying out loud, attack the theoretical content of his arguments and leave his mother out of it!

He took a step in a very vulnerable direction by sharing his personal story about his mother and how it affected his family. RESPECT THAT.

By the way, &quot;a fiction of the lowest common denominator&quot;? What does that even MEAN? Do you THINK before you write or do you just write in a fit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not want to comment again on this post, but I&#8217;m offended and completely outraged at the attack against Mr. Lee and his mother. His mother! For crying out loud, attack the theoretical content of his arguments and leave his mother out of it!</p>
<p>He took a step in a very vulnerable direction by sharing his personal story about his mother and how it affected his family. RESPECT THAT.</p>
<p>By the way, &#8220;a fiction of the lowest common denominator&#8221;? What does that even MEAN? Do you THINK before you write or do you just write in a fit?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Falun Gong members are trying to frame this issue as a &quot;Human Rights&quot; issue - but this is a personal story that I am sharing with others, and yet I am being attacked by this Nazi-like Machine of the Falun Gong. Who is the &quot;Human Rights&quot; advocate here? You people sound more like Nazis by trying to attack my personal story. You are worse than what you critcize others for, because you are hypocrites by attacking me personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Falun Gong members are trying to frame this issue as a &#8220;Human Rights&#8221; issue &#8211; but this is a personal story that I am sharing with others, and yet I am being attacked by this Nazi-like Machine of the Falun Gong. Who is the &#8220;Human Rights&#8221; advocate here? You people sound more like Nazis by trying to attack my personal story. You are worse than what you critcize others for, because you are hypocrites by attacking me personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Pan Jie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pan Jie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What &#039;Mr. Lee&#039; writes above is a fiction of the lowest common denominator, like the propaganda in the nightmarish novel &quot;1984&quot;. Just like the &quot;double-speak&quot; practiced by the authoritarian government in &quot;1984&quot; (where what the government says is just the opposite of the truth), it is widely known in human rights, government, and academic circles today that what frightens the Chinese Communist leadership most about Falun Gong practitioners is just that their minds cannot be easily controlled, and so they say that Li Hongzhi and Falun Gong are trying to control people&#039;s minds. That is a &quot;double-speak&quot;. 

I have read Mr. Li Hongzhi&#039;s (the founder of Falun Gong) books, and Falun Gong does not teach &quot;fasting,&quot; does not teach &quot;trance&quot;, and does not teach people to be off-balance. Quite the opposite, in his books, Li Hongzhi explains the origin of &quot;fasting&quot; as related to qigong and why Falun Gong does not incorporate this technique; he explains why Buddhist monks traditionally meditate in a state of trance and why Falun Gong does not practice in a state of trance and why practitioners should not lose awareness when practicing; and he talks about the ancient Chinese principle of the &quot;middle way&quot; and why it is important in life not to go to extremes and that practitioners of Falun Gong should maintain harmony in the family, think of others first in every situation, and be kind. He also goes to great length to explain why &quot;truth-compassion-tolerance&quot; is the characteristic of the universe.

I do not know why &#039;Mr. Lee&#039; writes the things he does, but I can tell you first-hand that the same kind of hate fodder can be found coming from the communist Chinese state-controlled media beginning in 1999 (when the government began to persecute the practice). At that time, Falun Gong had become the most popular form of qigong in China, with a Chinese government census estimating that between 70-100 million people were practicing. I think that all it would take to know for yourself that what Mr. Lee has written are truly &quot;double-speak,&quot; would be to read the original books of Falun Gong (www.falundafa.org), or you could could do as he suggested and go and speak to the Falun Gong practitioners in front of the Chinese embassy in San Francisco, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, etc. For the most part, they are retired old Chinese folk; they are quite rational, and they are there appealing for human rights because people in their country are being persecuted. Mr. Lee must assume that the majority of the people on the web have neither the time, ability, or the willingness to seek out the truth on their own. That is also precisely why lies can stand as truth for so long in a country like Communist China. 

To my dismay, in my travels in China, I met Chinese people, even in Beijing, who still don&#039;t know that students were shot down in cold-blood in the 1989 Tiananman Square Massacre. In Communist China, the media reports that it was the students who attacked the soldiers in the so-called &quot;Tiananmen Square Student Riots&quot;. When I showed the photo of the boy standing in front of the tank to a Chinese colleague of mine, she said that she didn&#039;t believe it and that it could have been made in Photoshop. I could hardly believe my ears. Time Magazine rated that photo one of the top 100 photos of the century! Now that really shows how strong and perverse a grip the Chinese Communist government has over people. 

However, I think we all know that grip is fast losing its hold. Things are changing in China. Information is spreading. Even as the Chinese Communist regime last year spent over a billion dollars to &quot;purify the Internet&quot;, and more recently, the regime recently passed a new law banning all streaming video content in China except for that on state-controlled websites staring in Jan-Feb 2008, still, more and more people are finding out different truths every day, and they are sharing with each other what they know and heard. Bye-bye &#039;Mr. Lee.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8216;Mr. Lee&#8217; writes above is a fiction of the lowest common denominator, like the propaganda in the nightmarish novel &#8220;1984&#8243;. Just like the &#8220;double-speak&#8221; practiced by the authoritarian government in &#8220;1984&#8243; (where what the government says is just the opposite of the truth), it is widely known in human rights, government, and academic circles today that what frightens the Chinese Communist leadership most about Falun Gong practitioners is just that their minds cannot be easily controlled, and so they say that Li Hongzhi and Falun Gong are trying to control people&#8217;s minds. That is a &#8220;double-speak&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have read Mr. Li Hongzhi&#8217;s (the founder of Falun Gong) books, and Falun Gong does not teach &#8220;fasting,&#8221; does not teach &#8220;trance&#8221;, and does not teach people to be off-balance. Quite the opposite, in his books, Li Hongzhi explains the origin of &#8220;fasting&#8221; as related to qigong and why Falun Gong does not incorporate this technique; he explains why Buddhist monks traditionally meditate in a state of trance and why Falun Gong does not practice in a state of trance and why practitioners should not lose awareness when practicing; and he talks about the ancient Chinese principle of the &#8220;middle way&#8221; and why it is important in life not to go to extremes and that practitioners of Falun Gong should maintain harmony in the family, think of others first in every situation, and be kind. He also goes to great length to explain why &#8220;truth-compassion-tolerance&#8221; is the characteristic of the universe.</p>
<p>I do not know why &#8216;Mr. Lee&#8217; writes the things he does, but I can tell you first-hand that the same kind of hate fodder can be found coming from the communist Chinese state-controlled media beginning in 1999 (when the government began to persecute the practice). At that time, Falun Gong had become the most popular form of qigong in China, with a Chinese government census estimating that between 70-100 million people were practicing. I think that all it would take to know for yourself that what Mr. Lee has written are truly &#8220;double-speak,&#8221; would be to read the original books of Falun Gong (www.falundafa.org), or you could could do as he suggested and go and speak to the Falun Gong practitioners in front of the Chinese embassy in San Francisco, Vancouver, Toronto, New York, etc. For the most part, they are retired old Chinese folk; they are quite rational, and they are there appealing for human rights because people in their country are being persecuted. Mr. Lee must assume that the majority of the people on the web have neither the time, ability, or the willingness to seek out the truth on their own. That is also precisely why lies can stand as truth for so long in a country like Communist China. </p>
<p>To my dismay, in my travels in China, I met Chinese people, even in Beijing, who still don&#8217;t know that students were shot down in cold-blood in the 1989 Tiananman Square Massacre. In Communist China, the media reports that it was the students who attacked the soldiers in the so-called &#8220;Tiananmen Square Student Riots&#8221;. When I showed the photo of the boy standing in front of the tank to a Chinese colleague of mine, she said that she didn&#8217;t believe it and that it could have been made in Photoshop. I could hardly believe my ears. Time Magazine rated that photo one of the top 100 photos of the century! Now that really shows how strong and perverse a grip the Chinese Communist government has over people. </p>
<p>However, I think we all know that grip is fast losing its hold. Things are changing in China. Information is spreading. Even as the Chinese Communist regime last year spent over a billion dollars to &#8220;purify the Internet&#8221;, and more recently, the regime recently passed a new law banning all streaming video content in China except for that on state-controlled websites staring in Jan-Feb 2008, still, more and more people are finding out different truths every day, and they are sharing with each other what they know and heard. Bye-bye &#8216;Mr. Lee.&#8217;</p>
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		<description>That methods of religious practice believe in gods, ailens, or reinkarnation does not make is a cult or a sect. If that was the case nrmal science would be a cult becuase it belives humans very likely develop from monkies. I think people aer focusing on the wrong htings here if they like to discuss if falun gong is a cult or not. It is not hte belief system but the behavior among people in the same sysetm as well as a systems leadership towards those that follow that can make something become a cult. To dfend falun gong with saying it is only about following a princple of being true good and forebearant says nothing of hte people practicing it still not being a cult.
Lee says he has a mother that, &quot;At times she would be starving herself, acting like she’s in a trance, and thinking she had special powers. I have also seen the protestors that sit in front of the Chinese Embassy in San Francisco, and they all act like they are in a trance. Go try and talk to them and see what kind of magic powers they have - I heard their Dear Leader can walk through walls. I read a book about cults and part of the “practice” of starvation is to keep the mind and body off-balance, so the followers can be weak and easily controlled. Hey, if you find yourself or your family joining them - be prepared for someone who behaves “perfectly normal, and resonable” one moment, but then turn around the next minute and start staring at you like they can see your aura or something.&quot; This could very wel be a start of someone falling into a cult. Thogh, It does not have to be so. That people in the US with high education practice falun gong doesn&#039;t say much about it being could either. Mostt cults look for wealthy people. Just look at Tom Cruise. He is the one celebrity to spend most money on his belief. The scientologist church is a cult.  Their are so many witness stories and police reports showing how they used mind controll to harm people so this is a common knowledge  in the US. Falun gong is still pretty new in the US and so one would not find that many people that have left it yet to hear stories of how it really is. A person in high belief of any system will to a certain degree be mind controlled. Even our children get mind controlled by our educatinal system while in school and find out as adults that a lot of things weren&#039;t just as they were taught. Though, tto judge if a mind controlling system is harmful lies more in what affects teh system has on the indivudual and his or her relation to ones family. If the induvidual choices get lost while practicing something over time family members should be concerned. Please consider this when discussing if falun gong is a cult or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That methods of religious practice believe in gods, ailens, or reinkarnation does not make is a cult or a sect. If that was the case nrmal science would be a cult becuase it belives humans very likely develop from monkies. I think people aer focusing on the wrong htings here if they like to discuss if falun gong is a cult or not. It is not hte belief system but the behavior among people in the same sysetm as well as a systems leadership towards those that follow that can make something become a cult. To dfend falun gong with saying it is only about following a princple of being true good and forebearant says nothing of hte people practicing it still not being a cult.<br />
Lee says he has a mother that, &#8220;At times she would be starving herself, acting like she’s in a trance, and thinking she had special powers. I have also seen the protestors that sit in front of the Chinese Embassy in San Francisco, and they all act like they are in a trance. Go try and talk to them and see what kind of magic powers they have &#8211; I heard their Dear Leader can walk through walls. I read a book about cults and part of the “practice” of starvation is to keep the mind and body off-balance, so the followers can be weak and easily controlled. Hey, if you find yourself or your family joining them &#8211; be prepared for someone who behaves “perfectly normal, and resonable” one moment, but then turn around the next minute and start staring at you like they can see your aura or something.&#8221; This could very wel be a start of someone falling into a cult. Thogh, It does not have to be so. That people in the US with high education practice falun gong doesn&#8217;t say much about it being could either. Mostt cults look for wealthy people. Just look at Tom Cruise. He is the one celebrity to spend most money on his belief. The scientologist church is a cult.  Their are so many witness stories and police reports showing how they used mind controll to harm people so this is a common knowledge  in the US. Falun gong is still pretty new in the US and so one would not find that many people that have left it yet to hear stories of how it really is. A person in high belief of any system will to a certain degree be mind controlled. Even our children get mind controlled by our educatinal system while in school and find out as adults that a lot of things weren&#8217;t just as they were taught. Though, tto judge if a mind controlling system is harmful lies more in what affects teh system has on the indivudual and his or her relation to ones family. If the induvidual choices get lost while practicing something over time family members should be concerned. Please consider this when discussing if falun gong is a cult or not.</p>
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