Comments on: Asians *ARE* good at math and science http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:53:47 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bruised Lee http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-116731 Bruised Lee Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:11:51 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-116731 I am from Singapaore. Generally, Chinese are good in Maths as shown by the TIMS RESULTS in 1999,2003,& 2007. on S'pore,Hongkong & Taiwan. Although China was not included in the TIMS, we have many new Chinese immigrant from Mainland and most of their children performed very well in Maths and Science after they had immersed 2 to 3 years into our English School. In the International Maths & Science Olympia, for the last 10 yrs. China had dominated in Maths,Physics,Chemistry & Biology. Even participants from USA,Britain,Canada & Australia had many of Chinese descend; just like table-tennis in the Olympic Game. This has something to do with the Chinese/Confucious culture. We placed great emphasis & importance in Education. Korea, Japan & Vietnam shared similar culture. That's why their students were among the top 5. When I was six, my father made me memorise the Times Table. Adding and subtraction were part of the routine excercise. Most Chinese like to gamble and sometime they started from very young. Most gambling games involved in numbers and simple maths. By the time I was 12 yrs. old, I knew most of the card games & played "Mahjong" too. I realised it had help my mental calculation tremendously. I have adopeted my father's teaching on maths to my daughter and she got A's in her GCE "O" & "A" levels. However, I have discouraged her to gamble. I am from Singapaore. Generally, Chinese are good in Maths as shown
by the TIMS RESULTS in 1999,2003,& 2007. on S’pore,Hongkong & Taiwan.
Although China was not included in the TIMS, we have many new Chinese immigrant from Mainland and most of their children performed very well in Maths and Science after they had immersed 2 to 3 years into our English School. In the International Maths & Science Olympia, for the last 10 yrs. China had dominated in Maths,Physics,Chemistry & Biology.
Even participants from USA,Britain,Canada & Australia had many of Chinese descend; just like table-tennis in the Olympic Game.
This has something to do with the Chinese/Confucious culture. We placed great emphasis & importance in Education. Korea, Japan & Vietnam shared similar culture. That’s why their students were among the top 5. When I was six, my father made me memorise the Times Table. Adding and subtraction were part of the routine excercise. Most Chinese like to gamble and sometime they started from very young.
Most gambling games involved in numbers and simple maths. By the time I was 12 yrs. old, I knew most of the card games & played “Mahjong” too.
I realised it had help my mental calculation tremendously. I have adopeted my father’s teaching on maths to my daughter and she got A’s in her GCE “O” & “A” levels. However, I have discouraged her to gamble.

]]> By: kira http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-97271 kira Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:20:06 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-97271 my teacher said that Asians parent are strict because they care about their childs education!!! my teacher said that Asians parent are strict because they care about their childs education!!!

]]> By: Evan http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-58575 Evan Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:02:11 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-58575 I'm now a U.S. High school student, coming from China last year. yep. China is not included in the list because there are not a lot chinese mainland students who taking the tests that were designed for English countries(like SAT,AP in U.S, A-level in the Commonwealth). so no statistic data available to compare chinese mainland students with other countries'. But I can definitely tell you that you math and science in mailand china will only be better than Hong Kong's and Taiwan's, not worse than them. I'm not sure about Korean, Japan, Vietnam, etc, Cuz there are not part of China(no matter PRC or "ROC") I’m now a U.S. High school student, coming from China last year.
yep. China is not included in the list because there are not a lot chinese mainland students who taking the tests that were designed for English countries(like SAT,AP in U.S, A-level in the Commonwealth). so no statistic data available to compare chinese mainland students with other countries’. But I can definitely tell you that you math and science in mailand china will only be better than Hong Kong’s and Taiwan’s, not worse than them. I’m not sure about Korean, Japan, Vietnam, etc, Cuz there are not part of China(no matter PRC or “ROC”)

]]> By: Bertie http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-41686 Bertie Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:43:18 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-41686 <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2178122/entry/2178123/" rel="nofollow">Here's an article</a> I came across today on race and IQ. It might be an interesting topic to write about on 8Asians. Granted, discussing race and its correlation to IQ on the internet often turns into the online equivalent of napalm, but ignoring or pooh-poohing the topic is disingenuous. (For the record, I think the discrepancy results from culture and the level of access to education.) Here’s an article I came across today on race and IQ. It might be an interesting topic to write about on 8Asians. Granted, discussing race and its correlation to IQ on the internet often turns into the online equivalent of napalm, but ignoring or pooh-poohing the topic is disingenuous.

(For the record, I think the discrepancy results from culture and the level of access to education.)

]]> By: John http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-41605 John Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:47:58 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-41605 Oh please. The genetic differences between the races are so small that I doubt it is race. It is educational institutions, funding priorities, culture etc.... Nutrition alone I am sure could explain a lot of differences between North Koreans and South Koreans. Oh please. The genetic differences between the races are so small that I doubt it is race. It is educational institutions, funding priorities, culture etc…. Nutrition alone I am sure could explain a lot of differences between North Koreans and South Koreans.

]]> By: KJY http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-41592 KJY Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:49:43 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-41592 It's race, not place. That's why Asians have high achievement wherever they go. And it's race, not culture, which is why adopted Asians have IQs higher than the white mean. It’s race, not place. That’s why Asians have high achievement wherever they go. And it’s race, not culture, which is why adopted Asians have IQs higher than the white mean.

]]> By: akrypti http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-41268 akrypti Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:56:41 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-41268 Ok this is very random, but I'm working on a book of short stories and as I write, I always run a Google search of the names I make up for my fictional characters, just to kind of get a feel of who else out there in the world have that name and what they're like. These names all happen to be Asian. And for about 80% of the fictional names I've Googled, there is an engineer or science professor or math professor or techie with that Asian name. Just saying. Ok this is very random, but I’m working on a book of short stories and as I write, I always run a Google search of the names I make up for my fictional characters, just to kind of get a feel of who else out there in the world have that name and what they’re like. These names all happen to be Asian. And for about 80% of the fictional names I’ve Googled, there is an engineer or science professor or math professor or techie with that Asian name.

Just saying.

]]> By: Michael http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/comment-page-1/#comment-41245 Michael Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:16:09 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/2007/11/16/asians-are-good-at-math-and-science/#comment-41245 LOL. The real reason they do so well is that the bottom of the pool is eliminated. Here in Taiwan, until very recently, the bottom scorers weren't permitted to advance out of 8th grade. So this inflated scores. I also doubt that the people doing this study took the time to get a substantial cross section of the HS age kids -- rather, they got kids from the high schools, without bothering to note that only the top 20% of kids go to high cshool, the rest being shunted into vocational systems. Finally, long experience here has convinced me that any numbers generated here should be taken with a very large grain of NaCl. Michael LOL. The real reason they do so well is that the bottom of the pool is eliminated. Here in Taiwan, until very recently, the bottom scorers weren’t permitted to advance out of 8th grade. So this inflated scores. I also doubt that the people doing this study took the time to get a substantial cross section of the HS age kids — rather, they got kids from the high schools, without bothering to note that only the top 20% of kids go to high cshool, the rest being shunted into vocational systems. Finally, long experience here has convinced me that any numbers generated here should be taken with a very large grain of NaCl.

Michael

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