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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everytime I watch that video  I shake my head, that and the video of the trya banks show with that asian guy.  Some people say I don&#039;t fit the steriotype, just becuause I&#039;m slim I must be a  submissive or that I have small penis. Boy are they wrong when I jump into bed, lol! I use to date only white guy but now that I move to SF I&#039;m all about asians. Its kinda funny how it all switch for me now I find this negative steriotype with white guys. But I know that no one person is the same, we all should treat each other with respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everytime I watch that video  I shake my head, that and the video of the trya banks show with that asian guy.  Some people say I don&#8217;t fit the steriotype, just becuause I&#8217;m slim I must be a  submissive or that I have small penis. Boy are they wrong when I jump into bed, lol! I use to date only white guy but now that I move to SF I&#8217;m all about asians. Its kinda funny how it all switch for me now I find this negative steriotype with white guys. But I know that no one person is the same, we all should treat each other with respect.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyedatthevideo</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyedatthevideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blond in this video is such a diva. I would never want to talk to him at a bar anyway. The funny thing is that he says Asian men are fem but he hasn&#039;t looked himself at the mirror. Such an idiot he is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand, I&#039;m sick of all these stupidities people, including Asian men, say about Asian men. The ironic thing is that most of these things are said by people who are neither attractive nor intellectually respectable. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interestingly, over the last few years I have optimistically seen that Americans are being more positive about the sexual image of the Asian man. I hope this video doesn&#039;t deteriorate the progress I have encountered so far. I can certainly say, however, that there are ridiculous stereotypes in this video. I grew up in Latin America and I can easily say that I was never objectified as an asexual Asian man, but interestingly, the stereotype worked oppositely in that people found me sexually &quot;exotic&quot; and masculine, associated me with martial arts and will oriental aphrodisiacs. Obviously this is all garbage too, but since I was one of the very few Asians in the city, and I was precociously sexual, everyone thought that all Asian men were as horny as me. This is the complete opposite of what I hear in the video, which is a pathetic desexualized image of the Asian man. Given this, I would really need to inquire more about where did the asexual image of the Asian man arise in Anglosaxon culture. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although I appreciate it as a thought provoking effort, I think it&#039;s too simplistic to be able to capture the actual situation of gay Asian American men. I am an equal opportunity dater and I feel the necessity to get involved in the politization of my sexual life. I embrace potato-chocolate-bean-curry queens and sticky rice as long as they see a human before a skin color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blond in this video is such a diva. I would never want to talk to him at a bar anyway. The funny thing is that he says Asian men are fem but he hasn&#39;t looked himself at the mirror. Such an idiot he is.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#39;m sick of all these stupidities people, including Asian men, say about Asian men. The ironic thing is that most of these things are said by people who are neither attractive nor intellectually respectable. </p>
<p>Interestingly, over the last few years I have optimistically seen that Americans are being more positive about the sexual image of the Asian man. I hope this video doesn&#39;t deteriorate the progress I have encountered so far. I can certainly say, however, that there are ridiculous stereotypes in this video. I grew up in Latin America and I can easily say that I was never objectified as an asexual Asian man, but interestingly, the stereotype worked oppositely in that people found me sexually &#8220;exotic&#8221; and masculine, associated me with martial arts and will oriental aphrodisiacs. Obviously this is all garbage too, but since I was one of the very few Asians in the city, and I was precociously sexual, everyone thought that all Asian men were as horny as me. This is the complete opposite of what I hear in the video, which is a pathetic desexualized image of the Asian man. Given this, I would really need to inquire more about where did the asexual image of the Asian man arise in Anglosaxon culture. </p>
<p>Although I appreciate it as a thought provoking effort, I think it&#39;s too simplistic to be able to capture the actual situation of gay Asian American men. I am an equal opportunity dater and I feel the necessity to get involved in the politization of my sexual life. I embrace potato-chocolate-bean-curry queens and sticky rice as long as they see a human before a skin color.</p>
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		<title>By: TF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that the video is pretty spot on on how we are perceived.  I am a mixed Asian male and find that people make snap judgments about me all the time.  I am 4th generation on all ethnicities, am 6&#039; tall and to some people I don&#039;t look Asian enough and to others, I just look Asian.  It has been a very frustrating thing for me throughout my gay adult life.  i know that by my appearance alone, most in West Hollywood know everything there is to know about me in a glance.  This used to upset me a lot before, but now I just see the humor in it all.&lt;br&gt;I have experienced racism from the Asian community in almost every city that I have visited.  Most of my friends happen to be caucasian because that is the ethnic group I have the most in common with.  I do believe that my preference to white males as partners is indeed because we have a lot in common and it is what I&#039;ve been exposed to in my hometown.  On a friend level, however, I don&#039;t pick and choose based on race.  I do have very close Asian friends (most of which are female though), but I find that a lot of the times, Asian males are wary of me.  Asian males (esp. the gaysians) tend to just gawk at me or give me awkward looks- perhaps it&#039;s because in shoes I am at least 6&#039;1&quot;.  My friends tend to believe that it is because of my height, or that I am competition, that I am intimidating,  or that I don&#039;t have typical Asian features (I have large eyes, thin high bridged nose, square jaw and I don&#039;t have the smooth skin, am not skinny (I&#039;m not fat either), I&#039;m not femme...).  On the other hand, non- Asians do have that stereo-type that I must have an accent, speak an Asian language, am submissive, have a tiny penis, eat Asian food etc when the truth of the matter is that my Asian grandparents only speak english, every partner that I have had was pleasantly surprised and I can barely use chopsticks.  If a non-Asian actually does have the courage to talk to me, they are shocked at how similar my upbringing was to theirs and that we in fact do have a great deal in common- I&#039;m as American as apple pie, just my wrapper is a little different.  Funny story about my sister- she has over heard girls in small towns where she lives commenting on &quot;why is that guy with that mexican? It&#039;s just sad...&quot;, my brother in law is caucasian and we aren&#039;t hispanic...we&#039;re not even filipino!&lt;br&gt;Luckily, we don&#039;t let small minded ignorant comments get us down, but we are fully aware of the perceptions people have of Asians.  It is just something that we have accepted and find to be a futile battle to break the image.  It&#039;s funny how our friends don&#039;t even see us as Asian, but, strangers can&#039;t get pass the fact that we are.&lt;br&gt;My brother on the other hand is the extreme side of pro-Asian.  He dates exclusively Asian women and all of his friends are Asian except for the few white guys who think that they are Asian.  Ironically he doesn&#039;t speak any east Asian language (in fact no one in my entire family does).&lt;br&gt;We are all comfortable in our own skin, but have evolved different preferences.  It is unexplainable how in one family there can be such polar opposites since we were raised the exact same way.  He does happen to have very classic Asian features and maybe he has this need to identify with a culture lost by so many generations in this country.&lt;br&gt;The blonde who was interviewed hit the nail on the head when he talked about snap judgements.  It is sad that even in metro areas there is this underlying ignorance that prevents people from broadening their horizons.  In my experience, African-Americans are even worse at perpetuating Asian stereotypes.  To them, and again I speak from my experience, everything is all Chinese and Bruce Lee.  They&#039;ve even made up an Asian language mostly consisting of &quot;ching and chong&quot; when trying to communicate with me and for some reason I think they feel that will understand them better if they speak with a generic Asian accent. Hmmm.  The funniest is when they are being serious and immediately start talking to me at a much slower pace- um I went to a private school thank you very much!  My grammar and diction goes far beyond your public school ebonics.&lt;br&gt;Thank you for this post because it is a great topic that I could go on and on to discuss.  Preference is preference and if you are comfortable with yourself, I don&#039;t think it is a bad thing.  It is an uphill climb especially in the gay community but, what can you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that the video is pretty spot on on how we are perceived.  I am a mixed Asian male and find that people make snap judgments about me all the time.  I am 4th generation on all ethnicities, am 6&#39; tall and to some people I don&#39;t look Asian enough and to others, I just look Asian.  It has been a very frustrating thing for me throughout my gay adult life.  i know that by my appearance alone, most in West Hollywood know everything there is to know about me in a glance.  This used to upset me a lot before, but now I just see the humor in it all.<br />I have experienced racism from the Asian community in almost every city that I have visited.  Most of my friends happen to be caucasian because that is the ethnic group I have the most in common with.  I do believe that my preference to white males as partners is indeed because we have a lot in common and it is what I&#39;ve been exposed to in my hometown.  On a friend level, however, I don&#39;t pick and choose based on race.  I do have very close Asian friends (most of which are female though), but I find that a lot of the times, Asian males are wary of me.  Asian males (esp. the gaysians) tend to just gawk at me or give me awkward looks- perhaps it&#39;s because in shoes I am at least 6&#39;1&#8243;.  My friends tend to believe that it is because of my height, or that I am competition, that I am intimidating,  or that I don&#39;t have typical Asian features (I have large eyes, thin high bridged nose, square jaw and I don&#39;t have the smooth skin, am not skinny (I&#39;m not fat either), I&#39;m not femme&#8230;).  On the other hand, non- Asians do have that stereo-type that I must have an accent, speak an Asian language, am submissive, have a tiny penis, eat Asian food etc when the truth of the matter is that my Asian grandparents only speak english, every partner that I have had was pleasantly surprised and I can barely use chopsticks.  If a non-Asian actually does have the courage to talk to me, they are shocked at how similar my upbringing was to theirs and that we in fact do have a great deal in common- I&#39;m as American as apple pie, just my wrapper is a little different.  Funny story about my sister- she has over heard girls in small towns where she lives commenting on &#8220;why is that guy with that mexican? It&#39;s just sad&#8230;&#8221;, my brother in law is caucasian and we aren&#39;t hispanic&#8230;we&#39;re not even filipino!<br />Luckily, we don&#39;t let small minded ignorant comments get us down, but we are fully aware of the perceptions people have of Asians.  It is just something that we have accepted and find to be a futile battle to break the image.  It&#39;s funny how our friends don&#39;t even see us as Asian, but, strangers can&#39;t get pass the fact that we are.<br />My brother on the other hand is the extreme side of pro-Asian.  He dates exclusively Asian women and all of his friends are Asian except for the few white guys who think that they are Asian.  Ironically he doesn&#39;t speak any east Asian language (in fact no one in my entire family does).<br />We are all comfortable in our own skin, but have evolved different preferences.  It is unexplainable how in one family there can be such polar opposites since we were raised the exact same way.  He does happen to have very classic Asian features and maybe he has this need to identify with a culture lost by so many generations in this country.<br />The blonde who was interviewed hit the nail on the head when he talked about snap judgements.  It is sad that even in metro areas there is this underlying ignorance that prevents people from broadening their horizons.  In my experience, African-Americans are even worse at perpetuating Asian stereotypes.  To them, and again I speak from my experience, everything is all Chinese and Bruce Lee.  They&#39;ve even made up an Asian language mostly consisting of &#8220;ching and chong&#8221; when trying to communicate with me and for some reason I think they feel that will understand them better if they speak with a generic Asian accent. Hmmm.  The funniest is when they are being serious and immediately start talking to me at a much slower pace- um I went to a private school thank you very much!  My grammar and diction goes far beyond your public school ebonics.<br />Thank you for this post because it is a great topic that I could go on and on to discuss.  Preference is preference and if you are comfortable with yourself, I don&#39;t think it is a bad thing.  It is an uphill climb especially in the gay community but, what can you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernie - the court of public opinion should have no bearing on who you date. If we listened to the court of public opinion, you would be a doctor, I would be a doctor, and we&#039;d be dating each other. That alone should frighten you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernie &#8211; the court of public opinion should have no bearing on who you date. If we listened to the court of public opinion, you would be a doctor, I would be a doctor, and we&#8217;d be dating each other. That alone should frighten you. <img src='http://www.8asians.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Efren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 07:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernie, I&#039;d date you, but I already have a boyfriend. *wink*wink*

And of course, we know that mixed-race Asians aren&#039;t really Asian, so you haven&#039;t really dated an Asian.  (BTW, it&#039;s SARCASM.  SARCASM, people!  Sad that I actually have to point this out.  Jesus.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernie, I&#8217;d date you, but I already have a boyfriend. *wink*wink*</p>
<p>And of course, we know that mixed-race Asians aren&#8217;t really Asian, so you haven&#8217;t really dated an Asian.  (BTW, it&#8217;s SARCASM.  SARCASM, people!  Sad that I actually have to point this out.  Jesus.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cant dress CHECK. Not Skinny CHECK. Not fem CHECK. Only into WHITE guys ??&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I was going through old posts and comments and somehow, I missed this comment where I get called out.  And even though this comment is two months late and it reeks of flamebait, I&#039;ll respond anyway, since it gives a good idea of my mindset posting this blog.

My first boyfriend is half-Vietnamese, half-white who associated with the Asian community.  My second boyfriend is half-Black, half-Filipino.  My last boyfriend is white although he swears he&#039;s half Mexican.  This doesn&#039;t count the guys I&#039;ve dated or *cough* hooked up with which have gone all over the map.  

So do I, as a gay Asian male, fall into the same stereotype of Asians only for white guys?  Yes, in that I haven&#039;t exclusively dated Asians and Asian Americans?  Or no, in that the guys I have dated don&#039;t fit in the typical &quot;rice queen&quot; mold?  Chances are, people will make snap judgments about me anyway, so by all means; judge away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cant dress CHECK. Not Skinny CHECK. Not fem CHECK. Only into WHITE guys ??</p></blockquote>
<p>I was going through old posts and comments and somehow, I missed this comment where I get called out.  And even though this comment is two months late and it reeks of flamebait, I&#8217;ll respond anyway, since it gives a good idea of my mindset posting this blog.</p>
<p>My first boyfriend is half-Vietnamese, half-white who associated with the Asian community.  My second boyfriend is half-Black, half-Filipino.  My last boyfriend is white although he swears he&#8217;s half Mexican.  This doesn&#8217;t count the guys I&#8217;ve dated or *cough* hooked up with which have gone all over the map.  </p>
<p>So do I, as a gay Asian male, fall into the same stereotype of Asians only for white guys?  Yes, in that I haven&#8217;t exclusively dated Asians and Asian Americans?  Or no, in that the guys I have dated don&#8217;t fit in the typical &#8220;rice queen&#8221; mold?  Chances are, people will make snap judgments about me anyway, so by all means; judge away.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE_BANANA_REPUBLIC -- &quot;Is there homophobia within the Asian American community?&quot; 

bro there is truth to that....if u read most of the gay personals including asian and non-asian personal the vast majority of these gaymen want a &quot;str8&quot; acting, masculine type of guy with means someone that does not speak, has bodylanguage or mannerisms of an effeminate gay man... which is ironic since the vast majority of gay men has to some degree and some more of gay effeminate speak, mannerisms, thought process and in my opinion is ok it&#039;s fine it&#039;s who you are.... it&#039;s like telling a cat to act like a dog a cat just cant&#039; just be a pussy (no pun intented) LOL... take for instance the fellow with the pierced eyebrow he obviously fits those charateristics and thats ok its fine but he does not like those features in a person... it&#039;s kinda of like homo self hatred... asian men that only date non-asian men i feel there is there self hatred too a sense of low self esteem in this country... i spend a year in japan and believe me the vast majority of them prefer other japanese oo other asian men,,,, it makes sense the dominate prevalent race would be the standard of beauty in that country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE_BANANA_REPUBLIC &#8212; &#8220;Is there homophobia within the Asian American community?&#8221; </p>
<p>bro there is truth to that&#8230;.if u read most of the gay personals including asian and non-asian personal the vast majority of these gaymen want a &#8220;str8&#8243; acting, masculine type of guy with means someone that does not speak, has bodylanguage or mannerisms of an effeminate gay man&#8230; which is ironic since the vast majority of gay men has to some degree and some more of gay effeminate speak, mannerisms, thought process and in my opinion is ok it&#8217;s fine it&#8217;s who you are&#8230;. it&#8217;s like telling a cat to act like a dog a cat just cant&#8217; just be a pussy (no pun intented) LOL&#8230; take for instance the fellow with the pierced eyebrow he obviously fits those charateristics and thats ok its fine but he does not like those features in a person&#8230; it&#8217;s kinda of like homo self hatred&#8230; asian men that only date non-asian men i feel there is there self hatred too a sense of low self esteem in this country&#8230; i spend a year in japan and believe me the vast majority of them prefer other japanese oo other asian men,,,, it makes sense the dominate prevalent race would be the standard of beauty in that country.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey i&#039;m a rice potato kinda guy and date all races, really, it&#039;s hard enough being gay yet find a longterm partner, it&#039;s the statistical the numbers that go against us.  

but you have to look at the overall big picture in america.... how many sexy leading asian male movie stars do u see? how many asian men news anchormen do we see?? i really think our asian str8 brother and gaybrothers need to work together on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i&#8217;m a rice potato kinda guy and date all races, really, it&#8217;s hard enough being gay yet find a longterm partner, it&#8217;s the statistical the numbers that go against us.  </p>
<p>but you have to look at the overall big picture in america&#8230;. how many sexy leading asian male movie stars do u see? how many asian men news anchormen do we see?? i really think our asian str8 brother and gaybrothers need to work together on this.</p>
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		<title>By: skinnyfemaznman</title>
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		<dc:creator>skinnyfemaznman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an eye-opening video for me.  Except for the fact that I am attracted to many different kinds of men, I fit the stereotypical bill.  This usually means no one wants to date me, or that I get the immediate &quot;back off&quot; signal from gay men who think that I&#039;m about to come too near.  Unfortunately, I&#039;ve never been able to engage anyone in an honest conversation about why.  

What surprises me is the conscious willingness that underwrites this form of prejudice in the clip.  I actually give the fellow credit for being so candid -- it can&#039;t be easy to open oneself up to the criticism that&#039;s undoubtedly imminent.  But for what it&#039;s worth (and I can only speak for myself), I have been most dismayed by the butched-out gay Asian men who seem to look on me as if I&#039;m not carrying my feather-weight for the cause.  That stings most deeply.  

I happen not to be interested in changing my body, my style, nor my affect in order to turn a hot man&#039;s eye.  I spent the better part of my 20s mistakenly thinking that I could be happy becoming the right object so I could maximize my gay experience.  So that leaves someone like me with only the hope that we can talk about how and what it means to acknowledge our ignorance, in order ultimately to second-guess that ignorance.  Even if it means never taking a skinny fem Asian man home.  I admire the poster above who is trying to &quot;work on and attend to&quot; his racism, only because no one of us is free from the accusation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an eye-opening video for me.  Except for the fact that I am attracted to many different kinds of men, I fit the stereotypical bill.  This usually means no one wants to date me, or that I get the immediate &#8220;back off&#8221; signal from gay men who think that I&#8217;m about to come too near.  Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve never been able to engage anyone in an honest conversation about why.  </p>
<p>What surprises me is the conscious willingness that underwrites this form of prejudice in the clip.  I actually give the fellow credit for being so candid &#8212; it can&#8217;t be easy to open oneself up to the criticism that&#8217;s undoubtedly imminent.  But for what it&#8217;s worth (and I can only speak for myself), I have been most dismayed by the butched-out gay Asian men who seem to look on me as if I&#8217;m not carrying my feather-weight for the cause.  That stings most deeply.  </p>
<p>I happen not to be interested in changing my body, my style, nor my affect in order to turn a hot man&#8217;s eye.  I spent the better part of my 20s mistakenly thinking that I could be happy becoming the right object so I could maximize my gay experience.  So that leaves someone like me with only the hope that we can talk about how and what it means to acknowledge our ignorance, in order ultimately to second-guess that ignorance.  Even if it means never taking a skinny fem Asian man home.  I admire the poster above who is trying to &#8220;work on and attend to&#8221; his racism, only because no one of us is free from the accusation.</p>
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		<title>By: vanguard</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/02/10/rainbow-nation-and-gay-asian-male-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-56588</link>
		<dc:creator>vanguard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a somewhat different perspective on the whole thing from the vantage point of gay vs. straight as it pertains to Asian males.

When I was dating women, race was never really an issue.  Throughout college, the idea that my ethnicity (Filipino) would be a factor in whether or not a girl would go out with me never factored.  And I dated everything under the sun--Asian, white, Latino, black, and mixes (loved the mixes).

Coming out has made dating immeasurably more complicated, something it didn&#039;t take too long to figure out when, at bars, the vast majority of men who would approach me were the significantly older, seemingly more predatory white guys with pick up lines like, &quot;Hey, my name&#039;s _____.  I&#039;m a producer.&quot;  Clearly expecting a response like &quot;Ah meestah, I rove you rong time.&quot; 

Dating within the gay community has been far more limited.  A Latino.  An Asian.  Significantly more white.  Not that I don&#039;t find non-white gay men unattractive, unfortunately the Asians and Latins and African-Americans that I do find hot generally fall into the &quot;not really into Asians&quot; paradigm.  At one point, after talking to a beautiful Chinese guy at the Abbey for about thirty minutes, thinking we were making a bit of  a love connection, I was taken aback when out the of the blue he asked &quot;You don&#039;t date Asians either, do you?&quot;

Nowadays, I prefer straight bars over gay ones.  It&#039;s nicer getting hit on by attractive women at straight bars than fighting invisibility by questionably attractive men at gay ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a somewhat different perspective on the whole thing from the vantage point of gay vs. straight as it pertains to Asian males.</p>
<p>When I was dating women, race was never really an issue.  Throughout college, the idea that my ethnicity (Filipino) would be a factor in whether or not a girl would go out with me never factored.  And I dated everything under the sun&#8211;Asian, white, Latino, black, and mixes (loved the mixes).</p>
<p>Coming out has made dating immeasurably more complicated, something it didn&#8217;t take too long to figure out when, at bars, the vast majority of men who would approach me were the significantly older, seemingly more predatory white guys with pick up lines like, &#8220;Hey, my name&#8217;s _____.  I&#8217;m a producer.&#8221;  Clearly expecting a response like &#8220;Ah meestah, I rove you rong time.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dating within the gay community has been far more limited.  A Latino.  An Asian.  Significantly more white.  Not that I don&#8217;t find non-white gay men unattractive, unfortunately the Asians and Latins and African-Americans that I do find hot generally fall into the &#8220;not really into Asians&#8221; paradigm.  At one point, after talking to a beautiful Chinese guy at the Abbey for about thirty minutes, thinking we were making a bit of  a love connection, I was taken aback when out the of the blue he asked &#8220;You don&#8217;t date Asians either, do you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nowadays, I prefer straight bars over gay ones.  It&#8217;s nicer getting hit on by attractive women at straight bars than fighting invisibility by questionably attractive men at gay ones.</p>
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