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	<title>Comments on: WSJ: Are Hard-Working Chinese Kids A Model for American Students?</title>
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		<title>By: 8Asians.com &#187; Immigrants just want to blend into the crowd: An Asian American/Asian Canadian Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/03/17/wsj-are-hard-working-chinese-kids-a-model-for-american-students/comment-page-1/#comment-61338</link>
		<dc:creator>8Asians.com &#187; Immigrants just want to blend into the crowd: An Asian American/Asian Canadian Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pacific. But it does raise some interesting thoughts. Do those of us Asian Americans then have the best of both worlds? I believe it&#8217;s very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: darkmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s still like this, but in Taiwan between each major shift (elementary to middle, middle to high school, high school to college) there are national exams.   Each of the national exams place you into a ranked school.  If you don&#039;t make the grade, then you must go to private school.  That&#039;s why public schools are so distinguished such as NTU.

In China, as John said... the more rural, the more that these kids want to do well.  Unfortunately there isn&#039;t much they can do (we&#039;re talking about writing characters with sticks in dirt type of teaching).   Many of these children are from poor farming communities or what not and so they sometimes have no choice but to forego education.

That&#039;s why there are nonprofits like Zigen, based in NY, that actually go to China every year and help these kids out.   They basically are signed into an agreement that if Zigen pays for their room/board/books into college, then they will in turn take what they learn and go back to their village and become teachers.

I&#039;ve heard from a family friend that the Chinese government does try to help do outreach, but there are so many small villages that it&#039;s difficult to get the necessary resources out to them since some of these places are only accessible by foot or donkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s still like this, but in Taiwan between each major shift (elementary to middle, middle to high school, high school to college) there are national exams.   Each of the national exams place you into a ranked school.  If you don&#8217;t make the grade, then you must go to private school.  That&#8217;s why public schools are so distinguished such as NTU.</p>
<p>In China, as John said&#8230; the more rural, the more that these kids want to do well.  Unfortunately there isn&#8217;t much they can do (we&#8217;re talking about writing characters with sticks in dirt type of teaching).   Many of these children are from poor farming communities or what not and so they sometimes have no choice but to forego education.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why there are nonprofits like Zigen, based in NY, that actually go to China every year and help these kids out.   They basically are signed into an agreement that if Zigen pays for their room/board/books into college, then they will in turn take what they learn and go back to their village and become teachers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard from a family friend that the Chinese government does try to help do outreach, but there are so many small villages that it&#8217;s difficult to get the necessary resources out to them since some of these places are only accessible by foot or donkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Hwang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Hwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s still like this, but in Taiwan between each major shift (elementary to middle, middle to high school, high school to college) there are national exams.   Each of the national exams place you into a ranked school.  If you don&#039;t make the grade, then you must go to private school.  That&#039;s why public schools are so distinguished such as NTU.

In China, as John said... the more rural, the more that these kids want to do well.  Unfortunately there isn&#039;t much they can do (we&#039;re talking about writing characters with sticks in dirt type of teaching).   Many of these children are from poor farming communities or what not and so they sometimes have no choice but to forego education.

That&#039;s why there are nonprofits like Zigen, based in NY, that actually go to China every year and help these kids out.   They basically are signed into an agreement that if Zigen pays for their room/board/books into college, then they will in turn take what they learn and go back to their village and become teachers.

I&#039;ve heard from a family friend that the Chinese government does try to help do outreach, but there are so many small villages that it&#039;s difficult to get the necessary resources out to them since some of these places are only accessible by foot or donkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s still like this, but in Taiwan between each major shift (elementary to middle, middle to high school, high school to college) there are national exams.   Each of the national exams place you into a ranked school.  If you don&#8217;t make the grade, then you must go to private school.  That&#8217;s why public schools are so distinguished such as NTU.</p>
<p>In China, as John said&#8230; the more rural, the more that these kids want to do well.  Unfortunately there isn&#8217;t much they can do (we&#8217;re talking about writing characters with sticks in dirt type of teaching).   Many of these children are from poor farming communities or what not and so they sometimes have no choice but to forego education.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why there are nonprofits like Zigen, based in NY, that actually go to China every year and help these kids out.   They basically are signed into an agreement that if Zigen pays for their room/board/books into college, then they will in turn take what they learn and go back to their village and become teachers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard from a family friend that the Chinese government does try to help do outreach, but there are so many small villages that it&#8217;s difficult to get the necessary resources out to them since some of these places are only accessible by foot or donkey.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, Asian schools - i.e. in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, etc... do not have &quot;anti-intellectual&quot; leanings. In general, I think education is far more highly regarded in Asia than in the U.S. Also, there are a lot less opportunities and spaces in college in Asia for the demand. And if you don&#039;t get into college, your professional choices are quite limited.

There is also I think less economic inequality in Asia for countries like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, etc.... and those countries are quite racially/ethnically homogeneous , when compared to the U.S., so the idea of being &quot;too White&quot; probably does not exist.

The more west you go in China, the poorer the region. So I&#039;d say that there are economic and educational disadvantages the more you go West. All the more reason why those kids in those regions want to do well in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, Asian schools &#8211; i.e. in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, etc&#8230; do not have &#8220;anti-intellectual&#8221; leanings. In general, I think education is far more highly regarded in Asia than in the U.S. Also, there are a lot less opportunities and spaces in college in Asia for the demand. And if you don&#8217;t get into college, your professional choices are quite limited.</p>
<p>There is also I think less economic inequality in Asia for countries like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, etc&#8230;. and those countries are quite racially/ethnically homogeneous , when compared to the U.S., so the idea of being &#8220;too White&#8221; probably does not exist.</p>
<p>The more west you go in China, the poorer the region. So I&#8217;d say that there are economic and educational disadvantages the more you go West. All the more reason why those kids in those regions want to do well in school.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, Asian schools - i.e. in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, etc... do not have &quot;anti-intellectual&quot; leanings. In general, I think education is far more highly regarded in Asia than in the U.S. Also, there are a lot less opportunities and spaces in college in Asia for the demand. And if you don&#039;t get into college, your professional choices are quite limited.

There is also I think less economic inequality in Asia for countries like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, etc.... and those countries are quite racially/ethnically homogeneous , when compared to the U.S., so the idea of being &quot;too White&quot; probably does not exist.

The more west you go in China, the poorer the region. So I&#039;d say that there are economic and educational disadvantages the more you go West. All the more reason why those kids in those regions want to do well in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, Asian schools &#8211; i.e. in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, etc&#8230; do not have &#8220;anti-intellectual&#8221; leanings. In general, I think education is far more highly regarded in Asia than in the U.S. Also, there are a lot less opportunities and spaces in college in Asia for the demand. And if you don&#8217;t get into college, your professional choices are quite limited.</p>
<p>There is also I think less economic inequality in Asia for countries like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, etc&#8230;. and those countries are quite racially/ethnically homogeneous , when compared to the U.S., so the idea of being &#8220;too White&#8221; probably does not exist.</p>
<p>The more west you go in China, the poorer the region. So I&#8217;d say that there are economic and educational disadvantages the more you go West. All the more reason why those kids in those regions want to do well in school.</p>
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		<title>By: DJKuulA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJKuulA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Asian public schools have the same anti-intellectual leanings as American public schools?  Do Asian kids have the same motivation to avoid being too studious and thus labeled &quot;nerds?&quot;

In US inner-city schools, kids who do well are often accused of being &quot;too White.&quot;  Is there an equivalent elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Asian public schools have the same anti-intellectual leanings as American public schools?  Do Asian kids have the same motivation to avoid being too studious and thus labeled &#8220;nerds?&#8221;</p>
<p>In US inner-city schools, kids who do well are often accused of being &#8220;too White.&#8221;  Is there an equivalent elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: DJKuulA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJKuulA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Asian public schools have the same anti-intellectual leanings as American public schools?  Do Asian kids have the same motivation to avoid being too studious and thus labeled &quot;nerds?&quot;

In US inner-city schools, kids who do well are often accused of being &quot;too White.&quot;  Is there an equivalent elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Asian public schools have the same anti-intellectual leanings as American public schools?  Do Asian kids have the same motivation to avoid being too studious and thus labeled &#8220;nerds?&#8221;</p>
<p>In US inner-city schools, kids who do well are often accused of being &#8220;too White.&#8221;  Is there an equivalent elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent the equivalent of elementary and middle school in Singapore public schools. When I came back to Puerto Rico to finish high school at what was considered one of the best on the island, I definitely felt like I didn&#039;t really learn anything new, and I would joke that I cruised through high school with stuff I had learned in Singapore...

i always cringe a bit when i look at the US school system, especially when standards slip in the name of letting people get ahead. &quot;Curve&quot; is a five letter word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent the equivalent of elementary and middle school in Singapore public schools. When I came back to Puerto Rico to finish high school at what was considered one of the best on the island, I definitely felt like I didn&#8217;t really learn anything new, and I would joke that I cruised through high school with stuff I had learned in Singapore&#8230;</p>
<p>i always cringe a bit when i look at the US school system, especially when standards slip in the name of letting people get ahead. &#8220;Curve&#8221; is a five letter word.</p>
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