Comments on: Asian American Professor suing students? http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/ A blog for Asian Americans Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:45:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 8Asians.com » Remember this lady?: An Asian American/Asian Canadian Blog http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-66732 8Asians.com » Remember this lady?: An Asian American/Asian Canadian Blog Mon, 19 May 2008 23:56:09 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-66732 [...] I first wrote about former Dartmouth professor Priya Venkatesan and her plan to sue her students for “intellectual distress” (which is funny, because I [...] [...] I first wrote about former Dartmouth professor Priya Venkatesan and her plan to sue her students for “intellectual distress” (which is funny, because I [...]

]]> By: Efren http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-65684 Efren Thu, 08 May 2008 17:41:42 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-65684 Yeah, don't get me wrong--I really wanted to be a professor, and I love teaching. But given the wages and all that, it's not worth it. And did I mention that the science studies people HATED me because I could distill what they're saying into thoughts that were easily understandable--unlike most people in science studies, I HAVE a degree in the physical sciences, so I can easily cut through the BS and take a 25 page science studies paper and distill it in a paragraph. That was one of the reasons why that woman hated me so much. :) Yeah, don’t get me wrong–I really wanted to be a professor, and I love teaching. But given the wages and all that, it’s not worth it.

And did I mention that the science studies people HATED me because I could distill what they’re saying into thoughts that were easily understandable–unlike most people in science studies, I HAVE a degree in the physical sciences, so I can easily cut through the BS and take a 25 page science studies paper and distill it in a paragraph. That was one of the reasons why that woman hated me so much. :)

]]> By: Efren http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-138349 Efren Thu, 08 May 2008 17:41:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-138349 Yeah, don't get me wrong--I really wanted to be a professor, and I love teaching. But given the wages and all that, it's not worth it. And did I mention that the science studies people HATED me because I could distill what they're saying into thoughts that were easily understandable--unlike most people in science studies, I HAVE a degree in the physical sciences, so I can easily cut through the BS and take a 25 page science studies paper and distill it in a paragraph. That was one of the reasons why that woman hated me so much. :) Yeah, don’t get me wrong–I really wanted to be a professor, and I love teaching. But given the wages and all that, it’s not worth it.

And did I mention that the science studies people HATED me because I could distill what they’re saying into thoughts that were easily understandable–unlike most people in science studies, I HAVE a degree in the physical sciences, so I can easily cut through the BS and take a 25 page science studies paper and distill it in a paragraph. That was one of the reasons why that woman hated me so much. :)

]]> By: Moye http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-65681 Moye Thu, 08 May 2008 17:13:40 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-65681 Ugh, you're reminding me about one of the most frustrating things about academics. Sometimes the most intellectual people in the planet are the last people who should teach. And I can't believe you had to deal with someone like that! Ugh, you’re reminding me about one of the most frustrating things about academics. Sometimes the most intellectual people in the planet are the last people who should teach.

And I can’t believe you had to deal with someone like that!

]]> By: Moye http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-138348 Moye Thu, 08 May 2008 17:13:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-138348 Ugh, you're reminding me about one of the most frustrating things about academics. Sometimes the most intellectual people in the planet are the last people who should teach. And I can't believe you had to deal with someone like that! Ugh, you’re reminding me about one of the most frustrating things about academics. Sometimes the most intellectual people in the planet are the last people who should teach.

And I can’t believe you had to deal with someone like that!

]]> By: Efren http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-65643 Efren Thu, 08 May 2008 06:15:25 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-65643 Heh, given my own experience with people who've done "science studies" and the like--and with teaching college-age students, I've always found it interesting that many people in that field can't exactly explain what they're doing on a level that's comprehensible to other grad students, much less undergraduates or the lay public. For this professor to try to teach those topics at an undergrad level, and or her to seriously think that these people wouldn't somehow rebel is actually incredibly naive. It reminds me of my own issue with a woman in my grad program who was the queen of science studies at UCSF, and I dared to challenge a basic tenet of one of her mentor's theories, namely that this guy's theories weren't taking race adequately into account. She accused me of being intellectually juvenile to the other professors, and then when I rewrote the paper, had all the other professors AND her students read it and gave their approval, she then accused me of plagiarism in front of faculty and staff because now the paper was too good for her. Doing this caused me to be a year behind the rest of my cohort. I filed a complaint with the dean of the grad division and the school a few days later, and demanded that she step down as grad student advisor or I would take the department and college to court for harassment and slander. Knowing that she was outnumbered, this professor was forced to resign that position, but it left such a bitter taste in my mouth that I ended up leaving the program because my heart wasn't in it at that point. Heh, given my own experience with people who’ve done “science studies” and the like–and with teaching college-age students, I’ve always found it interesting that many people in that field can’t exactly explain what they’re doing on a level that’s comprehensible to other grad students, much less undergraduates or the lay public. For this professor to try to teach those topics at an undergrad level, and or her to seriously think that these people wouldn’t somehow rebel is actually incredibly naive.

It reminds me of my own issue with a woman in my grad program who was the queen of science studies at UCSF, and I dared to challenge a basic tenet of one of her mentor’s theories, namely that this guy’s theories weren’t taking race adequately into account. She accused me of being intellectually juvenile to the other professors, and then when I rewrote the paper, had all the other professors AND her students read it and gave their approval, she then accused me of plagiarism in front of faculty and staff because now the paper was too good for her. Doing this caused me to be a year behind the rest of my cohort.

I filed a complaint with the dean of the grad division and the school a few days later, and demanded that she step down as grad student advisor or I would take the department and college to court for harassment and slander. Knowing that she was outnumbered, this professor was forced to resign that position, but it left such a bitter taste in my mouth that I ended up leaving the program because my heart wasn’t in it at that point.

]]> By: Efren http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/07/asian-american-professor-suing-students/comment-page-1/#comment-138347 Efren Thu, 08 May 2008 06:15:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=1166#comment-138347 Heh, given my own experience with people who've done "science studies" and the like--and with teaching college-age students, I've always found it interesting that many people in that field can't exactly explain what they're doing on a level that's comprehensible to other grad students, much less undergraduates or the lay public. For this professor to try to teach those topics at an undergrad level, and or her to seriously think that these people wouldn't somehow rebel is actually incredibly naive. It reminds me of my own issue with a woman in my grad program who was the queen of science studies at UCSF, and I dared to challenge a basic tenet of one of her mentor's theories, namely that this guy's theories weren't taking race adequately into account. She accused me of being intellectually juvenile to the other professors, and then when I rewrote the paper, had all the other professors AND her students read it and gave their approval, she then accused me of plagiarism in front of faculty and staff because now the paper was too good for her. Doing this caused me to be a year behind the rest of my cohort. I filed a complaint with the dean of the grad division and the school a few days later, and demanded that she step down as grad student advisor or I would take the department and college to court for harassment and slander. Knowing that she was outnumbered, this professor was forced to resign that position, but it left such a bitter taste in my mouth that I ended up leaving the program because my heart wasn't in it at that point. Heh, given my own experience with people who’ve done “science studies” and the like–and with teaching college-age students, I’ve always found it interesting that many people in that field can’t exactly explain what they’re doing on a level that’s comprehensible to other grad students, much less undergraduates or the lay public. For this professor to try to teach those topics at an undergrad level, and or her to seriously think that these people wouldn’t somehow rebel is actually incredibly naive.

It reminds me of my own issue with a woman in my grad program who was the queen of science studies at UCSF, and I dared to challenge a basic tenet of one of her mentor’s theories, namely that this guy’s theories weren’t taking race adequately into account. She accused me of being intellectually juvenile to the other professors, and then when I rewrote the paper, had all the other professors AND her students read it and gave their approval, she then accused me of plagiarism in front of faculty and staff because now the paper was too good for her. Doing this caused me to be a year behind the rest of my cohort.

I filed a complaint with the dean of the grad division and the school a few days later, and demanded that she step down as grad student advisor or I would take the department and college to court for harassment and slander. Knowing that she was outnumbered, this professor was forced to resign that position, but it left such a bitter taste in my mouth that I ended up leaving the program because my heart wasn’t in it at that point.

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