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	<title>Comments on: Fugitive Dr. Tony Shiu, caught in Taiwan, back in the Bay Area</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there r plenty of male doctors on Grey&#039;s Anatomy&quot; actually, most of them attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there r plenty of male doctors on Grey&#8217;s Anatomy&#8221; actually, most of them attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Dplenert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dplenert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there was a doctor on Grey&#039;s but in Cashmere Mafia, Lucy Liu&#039;s love interest, Dr. Jason Chung played by Jack Yang was nice to look at.  And he wasn&#039;t so creepy.  http://www.tv.com/jack-yang/person/284473/photos.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there was a doctor on Grey&#8217;s but in Cashmere Mafia, Lucy Liu&#8217;s love interest, Dr. Jason Chung played by Jack Yang was nice to look at.  And he wasn&#8217;t so creepy.  <a href="http://www.tv.com/jack-yang/person/284473/photos.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tv.com/jack-yang/person/284473/photos.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Efren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I remember this correctly, this wasn&#039;t with his patients.  The victims were guys that this guy dated by meeting them online, drugged the victims by putting stuff in their drinks, then DRAGGING their bodies home where he (at least) took pictures--if not doing more.  Somehow, I think someone would&#039;ve noticed this guy dragging a slumped over guy from his doctor&#039;s office to his car, rather than from a bar (or coffeehouse) to his house, where people would be less likely to notice or just think, &quot;oh, this guy had too much to drink.&quot; 

It was just more shocking that he was a physician by trade, and so has access to these drugs simply by self-prescribing them.  I wonder if his pharmacists ever noticed this (only because I&#039;m hoping to start pharm school--very, very soon), and would think that they&#039;re probably the ones who started raising suspicions.  &quot;What, a prescription for rohypnol again?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember this correctly, this wasn&#8217;t with his patients.  The victims were guys that this guy dated by meeting them online, drugged the victims by putting stuff in their drinks, then DRAGGING their bodies home where he (at least) took pictures&#8211;if not doing more.  Somehow, I think someone would&#8217;ve noticed this guy dragging a slumped over guy from his doctor&#8217;s office to his car, rather than from a bar (or coffeehouse) to his house, where people would be less likely to notice or just think, &#8220;oh, this guy had too much to drink.&#8221; </p>
<p>It was just more shocking that he was a physician by trade, and so has access to these drugs simply by self-prescribing them.  I wonder if his pharmacists ever noticed this (only because I&#8217;m hoping to start pharm school&#8211;very, very soon), and would think that they&#8217;re probably the ones who started raising suspicions.  &#8220;What, a prescription for rohypnol again?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/05/31/fugitive-dr-tony-shiu-caught-in-taiwan-back-in-the-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-71102</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john, remember this was also featured on &quot;America&#039;s Most Wanted&quot;, which is not a local news show. Efren and I were commenting how difficult it is for male victims to press charges, and amazed that this guy was caught because the male victims had the courage to speak up.

Unfortunately, doctors violate female patients a lot...most of them do not end up on America&#039;s Most Wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john, remember this was also featured on &#8220;America&#8217;s Most Wanted&#8221;, which is not a local news show. Efren and I were commenting how difficult it is for male victims to press charges, and amazed that this guy was caught because the male victims had the courage to speak up.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, doctors violate female patients a lot&#8230;most of them do not end up on America&#8217;s Most Wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, Efren - it is a &quot;big&quot; story because 1. local resident 2. the doctor violated a patient (and would be just as &quot;big&quot; if he were violating females) 3. he fled the country and was caught abroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, Efren &#8211; it is a &#8220;big&#8221; story because 1. local resident 2. the doctor violated a patient (and would be just as &#8220;big&#8221; if he were violating females) 3. he fled the country and was caught abroad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s also a disincentive for &quot;gay&quot; victims of violence to stand up because the gay community doesn&#039;t want themselves to be portrayed as &quot;violent&quot; along with everything else they face in society.

particularly true of lesbians...they want to portray themselves as &quot;peaceful and loving&quot;, so lesbian victims of violence are often shushed by their community in order to maintain a &quot;good&quot; reputation for the straight folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s also a disincentive for &#8220;gay&#8221; victims of violence to stand up because the gay community doesn&#8217;t want themselves to be portrayed as &#8220;violent&#8221; along with everything else they face in society.</p>
<p>particularly true of lesbians&#8230;they want to portray themselves as &#8220;peaceful and loving&#8221;, so lesbian victims of violence are often shushed by their community in order to maintain a &#8220;good&#8221; reputation for the straight folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Efren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and there is a huge stigma of men coming forward as victims of sexual crimes, whether it&#039;s something like this, or outright rape.  I think it&#039;s a combination of homophobia and the victims feeling emasculated and feeling that they were at fault for allowing this to happen, so it is encouraging to see that men aren&#039;t putting up with this, just as women shouldn&#039;t either.  

I remember posting this on a queer Asian e-mail list that I was on, and the silence was deafening, especially since such issues of men doing sexual violence (or hell, even partner violence) against other men just aren&#039;t talked about and are assumed not to exist.  I just hope that this guy gets what&#039;s coming to him if what he did is true--whether or not he acted as a physician, or as a date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and there is a huge stigma of men coming forward as victims of sexual crimes, whether it&#8217;s something like this, or outright rape.  I think it&#8217;s a combination of homophobia and the victims feeling emasculated and feeling that they were at fault for allowing this to happen, so it is encouraging to see that men aren&#8217;t putting up with this, just as women shouldn&#8217;t either.  </p>
<p>I remember posting this on a queer Asian e-mail list that I was on, and the silence was deafening, especially since such issues of men doing sexual violence (or hell, even partner violence) against other men just aren&#8217;t talked about and are assumed not to exist.  I just hope that this guy gets what&#8217;s coming to him if what he did is true&#8211;whether or not he acted as a physician, or as a date.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Efren, you bring up a great point, the story might be &quot;big&quot; because a male producer saw it and said &quot;Crap, even I might get violated at my doctor&#039;s appointment&quot; and it may be such a big story because of homophobia rather than any other factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Efren, you bring up a great point, the story might be &#8220;big&#8221; because a male producer saw it and said &#8220;Crap, even I might get violated at my doctor&#8217;s appointment&#8221; and it may be such a big story because of homophobia rather than any other factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Efren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve often thought of hot Asian male doctors um, molesting me...

But then, it&#039;s not really molestation if I agree to it, right? ;)

Seriously though, I think it&#039;s a big issue because it&#039;s a man doing it to other men.  If I remember the original case though, these weren&#039;t so much his patients as they were guys that he took home with them on dates--and then drugged them and took pictures.  Either way, it&#039;s fucked up as hell and completely and totally unethical since it was nonconsensual.  

As Jen wrote, unfortunately, it&#039;s very common for (straight) male doctors to do it to female patients, and this is one of the first times I&#039;ve seen it where the victims were men.  However, it is encouraging to see that there&#039;s less of a stigma for men who are violated in this way (as well as rape victims and other male victims of sexual crimes) to report this to the authorities, and I&#039;m glad the son of a bitch got caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve often thought of hot Asian male doctors um, molesting me&#8230;</p>
<p>But then, it&#8217;s not really molestation if I agree to it, right? <img src='http://www.8asians.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, I think it&#8217;s a big issue because it&#8217;s a man doing it to other men.  If I remember the original case though, these weren&#8217;t so much his patients as they were guys that he took home with them on dates&#8211;and then drugged them and took pictures.  Either way, it&#8217;s fucked up as hell and completely and totally unethical since it was nonconsensual.  </p>
<p>As Jen wrote, unfortunately, it&#8217;s very common for (straight) male doctors to do it to female patients, and this is one of the first times I&#8217;ve seen it where the victims were men.  However, it is encouraging to see that there&#8217;s less of a stigma for men who are violated in this way (as well as rape victims and other male victims of sexual crimes) to report this to the authorities, and I&#8217;m glad the son of a bitch got caught.</p>
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		<title>By: Asianmommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asianmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awful.  Even doctors can be inappropriate jerks.  So much for &quot;do no harm&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awful.  Even doctors can be inappropriate jerks.  So much for &#8220;do no harm&#8221;.</p>
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