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	<title>Comments on: LA Japantown to become KoreaJapantown?</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Stew</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-79802</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sirs:

The declining status of the &quot;Japantowns&quot; in both LA and S.F.
are quite obvious from the economic facts of the late
1980&#039;s to 1990&#039;s.

The average Japanese manufacturing wage has gone
exponentially up from post-WW II (1941 - 1945), 
near starvation wages, up to y. 2000 $27.50 [US $/hour], 
even exceeding the average US manufacturing wages of
y. 2000 $26.50 [US $/hour] (only exceeded world-wide
by Finland at y. 2000 $28.50 [US $/hour]).

While the post-Korean War average manufacturing wage
has gone up from near &#039;starvation wages&#039; up to y. 2000
about $16.50 [US $/hour].

The post-Chairman Dung Shou Pang, PRC manufacturing 
wages are at y. 2000 $0.50 [US $/hour].

The huge 1960&#039;s to 1980&#039;s Japanese trade deficit with
the US, has slowly shifted during the late 1980&#039;s, 
to the lower average manufacturing
wages of S. Korea, and also during the mid-1990&#039;s 
to 2000&#039;s to the PRC.  In y. 2007, Japan was at
about &#039;balanced trade&#039; with the US, only exceeded
by annual &#039;balanced trade&#039; between Canada and the
US.

The quite massive [US $/year] US Asian trade deficits,
once in the 1960&#039;s - 1980&#039;s, going to Japanese banks to
re-cycle in the US, are now going to the booming S.
Korean banks, and the PRC opening bank branches 
in the US.   Japan thus went through a 17 year
recession from 1990 - 2008, itself having to
&#039;export manufacturing labor&#039; to Malaysia, and then 
to the PRC, to stay cost competitive with &#039;Made in
Japan&#039; exports from Japan.

The economic impact from the above, 
has &#039;trickled down&#039; to the Japantowns
in LA and S.F., plus the sansei and
yonsei American-Japanese have chosen
not to live in the Japantowns of their
ancestors, but, like to visit repeatedly
to refresh their history and culture.

In order to keep the 2000&#039;s LA and S.F. Japantowns
a highest priority, historic and cultural jewels, and also
economically viable to serve future generations of
American-Japanese, I think it is rational to convert 
them to &quot;Pan-Asian Centers: Japan, S. Korea, PRC, 
and Asian-Pacific Islander and other Asian such 
as Philippino&quot;, &quot;A Taste of Asia Centers,&quot; or &quot;A
Touch of Asia Centers,&quot; making the Japanese
National Museum in LA, the focal point and anchor
of the &#039;Japanese corner&#039; of the &#039;Pan Asian Center.&#039;

Txs,

Sam Stew
A Concerned Citizen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sirs:</p>
<p>The declining status of the &#8220;Japantowns&#8221; in both LA and S.F.<br />
are quite obvious from the economic facts of the late<br />
1980&#8217;s to 1990&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The average Japanese manufacturing wage has gone<br />
exponentially up from post-WW II (1941 &#8211; 1945),<br />
near starvation wages, up to y. 2000 $27.50 [US $/hour],<br />
even exceeding the average US manufacturing wages of<br />
y. 2000 $26.50 [US $/hour] (only exceeded world-wide<br />
by Finland at y. 2000 $28.50 [US $/hour]).</p>
<p>While the post-Korean War average manufacturing wage<br />
has gone up from near &#8217;starvation wages&#8217; up to y. 2000<br />
about $16.50 [US $/hour].</p>
<p>The post-Chairman Dung Shou Pang, PRC manufacturing<br />
wages are at y. 2000 $0.50 [US $/hour].</p>
<p>The huge 1960&#8217;s to 1980&#8217;s Japanese trade deficit with<br />
the US, has slowly shifted during the late 1980&#8217;s,<br />
to the lower average manufacturing<br />
wages of S. Korea, and also during the mid-1990&#8217;s<br />
to 2000&#8217;s to the PRC.  In y. 2007, Japan was at<br />
about &#8216;balanced trade&#8217; with the US, only exceeded<br />
by annual &#8216;balanced trade&#8217; between Canada and the<br />
US.</p>
<p>The quite massive [US $/year] US Asian trade deficits,<br />
once in the 1960&#8217;s &#8211; 1980&#8217;s, going to Japanese banks to<br />
re-cycle in the US, are now going to the booming S.<br />
Korean banks, and the PRC opening bank branches<br />
in the US.   Japan thus went through a 17 year<br />
recession from 1990 &#8211; 2008, itself having to<br />
&#8216;export manufacturing labor&#8217; to Malaysia, and then<br />
to the PRC, to stay cost competitive with &#8216;Made in<br />
Japan&#8217; exports from Japan.</p>
<p>The economic impact from the above,<br />
has &#8216;trickled down&#8217; to the Japantowns<br />
in LA and S.F., plus the sansei and<br />
yonsei American-Japanese have chosen<br />
not to live in the Japantowns of their<br />
ancestors, but, like to visit repeatedly<br />
to refresh their history and culture.</p>
<p>In order to keep the 2000&#8217;s LA and S.F. Japantowns<br />
a highest priority, historic and cultural jewels, and also<br />
economically viable to serve future generations of<br />
American-Japanese, I think it is rational to convert<br />
them to &#8220;Pan-Asian Centers: Japan, S. Korea, PRC,<br />
and Asian-Pacific Islander and other Asian such<br />
as Philippino&#8221;, &#8220;A Taste of Asia Centers,&#8221; or &#8220;A<br />
Touch of Asia Centers,&#8221; making the Japanese<br />
National Museum in LA, the focal point and anchor<br />
of the &#8216;Japanese corner&#8217; of the &#8216;Pan Asian Center.&#8217;</p>
<p>Txs,</p>
<p>Sam Stew<br />
A Concerned Citizen</p>
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		<title>By: Fumio</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-76908</link>
		<dc:creator>Fumio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Francisco Japantown is under a new ownership. We propose design ideas for the future Japantown. www.projectjt.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Francisco Japantown is under a new ownership. We propose design ideas for the future Japantown. <a href="http://www.projectjt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.projectjt.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sc</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-72303</link>
		<dc:creator>sc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...not really a big deal just look at Chinatown in LA, many stories are now Vietnamese or Vietnamese/Chinese owned.  I mean the only people living in the Chinatown are are recent immigrants and the elderly like my grandmother.  I rather see the area occupied by other Asian Americans rather than it be shuttered due to changes in demographics.  

This is really nothing new demographics change all the time, I&#039;m sure many Japanese have moved to Torrance/Garenda that used to live/frequent JTown, just like Chinese have moved to SGV, Rowland Heights area and Irvine, while Koreans from KTown to Diamond Bar, Garden Grove, Cerritos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;not really a big deal just look at Chinatown in LA, many stories are now Vietnamese or Vietnamese/Chinese owned.  I mean the only people living in the Chinatown are are recent immigrants and the elderly like my grandmother.  I rather see the area occupied by other Asian Americans rather than it be shuttered due to changes in demographics.  </p>
<p>This is really nothing new demographics change all the time, I&#8217;m sure many Japanese have moved to Torrance/Garenda that used to live/frequent JTown, just like Chinese have moved to SGV, Rowland Heights area and Irvine, while Koreans from KTown to Diamond Bar, Garden Grove, Cerritos.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-72153</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &#039;Little Tokyo&#039; sprouted up around 8th St and 3rd Ave in New York during the last decade to support the community of young Japanese pseudo-artists taking up residents before returning to Japan after a couple of months/years.  There is a larger Japanese community Ft. Lee, NJ and a HUGE Japanese grocery store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8216;Little Tokyo&#8217; sprouted up around 8th St and 3rd Ave in New York during the last decade to support the community of young Japanese pseudo-artists taking up residents before returning to Japan after a couple of months/years.  There is a larger Japanese community Ft. Lee, NJ and a HUGE Japanese grocery store.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Chu</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-71986</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG joz we were writing our responses at the same time and I didn&#039;t see yours until today. So (belated) JINX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG joz we were writing our responses at the same time and I didn&#8217;t see yours until today. So (belated) JINX.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-71901</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, I think the Japantown in SF is still a Japantown. Maybe I am oblivious, but I don&#039;t know of any Korean or Chinese restaurant or stores in Japantown SF.

I don&#039;t think that many Japanese (relative to let&#039;s say China) emigrate to the U.S. anymore since the standard of living in Japan has always been the highest in Asia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, I think the Japantown in SF is still a Japantown. Maybe I am oblivious, but I don&#8217;t know of any Korean or Chinese restaurant or stores in Japantown SF.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that many Japanese (relative to let&#8217;s say China) emigrate to the U.S. anymore since the standard of living in Japan has always been the highest in Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-71819</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey do you mean that there isn’t the type of critical mass that slows acclimation into the culture (by allowing an insular community to form)… or do you mean that, because the Japanese, as a group, has been the U.S. longer than other Asian-Americans, they have, over several generations, integrated into the culture.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The latter.  But since you bring up the former, I agree with that point too.  But I was inferring the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey do you mean that there isn’t the type of critical mass that slows acclimation into the culture (by allowing an insular community to form)… or do you mean that, because the Japanese, as a group, has been the U.S. longer than other Asian-Americans, they have, over several generations, integrated into the culture.</p></blockquote>
<p>The latter.  But since you bring up the former, I agree with that point too.  But I was inferring the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Tokyo to get a little littler &#124; Los Angeles Metblogs</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-71811</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Tokyo to get a little littler &#124; Los Angeles Metblogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] h/t: Moye at 8Asians: LA Japantown to become KoreaJapantown? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jozjozjoz</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-71795</link>
		<dc:creator>jozjozjoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chu:

Great minds think alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chu:</p>
<p>Great minds think alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Chu</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/06/02/koreajapantown/comment-page-1/#comment-71791</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Makes sense as there are fewer immigrants from Japan and they acclimate fully into American culture.&quot;

Hey do you mean that there isn&#039;t the type of critical mass that slows acclimation into the culture (by allowing an insular community to form)... or do you mean that, because the Japanese, as a group, has been the U.S. longer than other Asian-Americans, they have, over several generations, integrated into the culture.

Either way, I&#039;d agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Makes sense as there are fewer immigrants from Japan and they acclimate fully into American culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey do you mean that there isn&#8217;t the type of critical mass that slows acclimation into the culture (by allowing an insular community to form)&#8230; or do you mean that, because the Japanese, as a group, has been the U.S. longer than other Asian-Americans, they have, over several generations, integrated into the culture.</p>
<p>Either way, I&#8217;d agree.</p>
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