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• Souldrummer

  I’m Black not Asian and I’m not sure who generally wanders into this blog, I’m here because there’s a link from the Washington Post website.

  Focus on why this article was written: Asians are now beating whites. Poor performance of Blacks and Latinos at TJ is not news. Better performance from Asians over Whites is. Whites have more political power in Fairfax. They want their kids in TJ. They fear that immigrants, especially immigrants whose parents are not citizens, may be overrepresented. I don’t expect a major change in Black representation. I expect a lot of talking about change in Black representation. I do expect a flip-flop of numbers to 45% white and 42% asian based on some kind of bogus residency requirement. The Chinese family quoted in this article was foolish to talk to the Post. That will only add fuel to a residency requirement that rewards families who have paid more taxes to Fairfax and discriminates against recent immigrants.

  I’m interested to see which way the numbers go for Asians next year.

  FYI: I’m souldrummer and I posted on the comments to the article as well.

• julie

  I went to U of Waterloo in Canada, one of the big schools for math and eng. I majored in math and I think the eng and math faculties were 50%+ Asian. A lot of students referred to the two main cs buildings, MC and DC as Mainland China and Downtown China.

  I’m a French-Canadian girl, in my year a demographic represented by exactly one student in my faculty (me), since French-Canadians don’t tend to go into tech subjects, and they don’t tend to go to English universities.

  I once had a tutorial session for the whole class where the TA got frustrated with speaking English and started giving the answer in Mandarin to the student he was trying to help, another Mandarin speaker. A lot of the class understood his answer.

  Of course I am viewing this as an outsider, and I understand that Asian people don’t want to just be stereotyped as nerds, but from talking to my classmates there seems to be a big tendancy for Asian parents to push their kids into subjects like math, science, accounting, engineering. My professor did career counselling sometimes and he said he was so depressed at seeing the number of Asian kids majoring in things that they HATED because their parents wanted them to be engineers or accountants.

  I live in Thailand now, and I also notice that there’s a lot of social approval for nerd subject in Asia. If I tell people I studied cs or math, they’re like “oh, that’s very good”. If you say you studied theatre, your average person will be “what a bum, they’re not serious and they’re probably poor.

  So maybe I’m wrong, but perhaps there is a need for this “nothing exists except accounting, engineering and medecine” mentality to change among asians too.

• http://www.8asians.com John

  Souldrummer – thanks for your comment and thoughts. Where Asian Americans are outnumber whites has been written up a lot in California – especially in regards to college admissions (less so about high school, but I did blog/link to the Wall Street Journal article about “The New White Flight.”)

  Julie – actually, as I had blogged and referenced in my posting, most Asian Americans DO NOT major in science, technology, engineering and math, as the released report, “Facts, Not Fiction: Setting the Record Straight“ by New York University and the College Board finds. Maybe at your university, they did (my brother went to MIT, so not too many Asian Americans majoring in the humanities there…) Is it so wrong that Thais want their children to study something that might get them a good paying job?

• Daniel

  Journalists can make something ordinary like kids eating chocolate and turn it into big news with certain details added in there and emphasizing in certain aspects of such a topic.

  Overall, it’s not really new but I know that many parents are proud. Maybe it might be a very big issue for those born or raised in North America, but a lot of Asians (I include everyone from South Asia to East Asia) who have immigrated here do take pride in education and these subjects such as Math, I.T., Science, Engineering, Architecture and the Arts (don’t be surprise to notice there there is quite a lot in this field). are quite practical. Actually, you can pretty much find someone of Asian descent studying and working in nearly every subject.

  It doesn’t mean that these students will end up finding a job related since after graduation it’s up to themselves to do the work and by then it really is their individual choice for such career. Then there are those who will work for possibly 5-10 years and move on for a different career path or not.

• Bo

  The Post article is nothing but fear mongering vaugely disguised as “responsible journalism.” I find it hilarious that white Americans laude the value of meritocracy until it comes to bite them in the butt.

  BTW, while it’s bad that some Asian-American kids feel pressured to major in subjects that they don’t want to – one can’t argue that the US would benefit if more people majored in technical areas such as math and engineering rather than humanities such as theater and english. I don’t see too many Comp Lit majors working towards solving the current energy crisis.

• Lawrence

  Most of the “news” that comes from the mainstream American corporate media has to be analyzed critically against the grain, as it were. Their assertions can never be taken prima facie as good coin.

  The lies about “Weapons of Mass Destruction” in Iraq peddled by the American media–including the Washington Post–are one prime example of how the corporate media operates.

• http://www.8asians.com/author/ancientone95131/ jeffat8asians

  Bo – not sure about the last paragraph – did you mean that “one can argue that the US would benefit more” in your sentence? Then again, people do move around between fields. One of my frequent collaborators with whom I published a number of technical papers in computer science was an English major.

• http://www.aaa-fund.com/?p=463 Gautam

  We just linked to your piece on the Asian American Action Fund Blog: http://www.aaa-fund.com/?p=463.

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• tjgrad

  I’d like to point out that the Washington Post jumps on the chance of writing next to anything about TJ. ust recently the published an article on how affirmative action at TJ is necessary.

  Having graduated from TJ, I’ve realized one thing: attending such an institution is not meant to get you ahead in life of give you an unfair advantage over others in admissions for colleges. If anything, it teaches you how to manage academics extracurriculars, and life in general well.

  As for how successful we TJ grads are in life, its more what you make of the experience rather than the end result. There are many ways to get to that Ivy-league school.TJ is simply just one of them. While it may benefit the few that attend, not attending reallydoes not hurt your prospects at any college that you wish to apply to.

  in other words, its just a stepping stone for a few chosen students during their academic careers. The fact that so many of these blogs analyze the ethnicities behind the student body is getting to seem rather irrelevent. It’s just a high school, not a trade school. The student body seems to coalesce perfectly well, so as outsiders, I don’t understand why the public worries so much.

  Honestly it’s one of those things where if you didn’t get in, just accept it and move on. It’s a truly grueling environment and an equally intensive process. Thus, the kids who get in are ready to face the challenges in front of them, whatever their ethnicity.

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• Johnclave111

  Most of the students wants to go into the technical field now a days rather than going into some other field these types of high schools creates some good people for our betterment

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