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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;It Just Isn&#8217;t Looking Like Asia&#8217;s Century&#8221;: Proof that Expats Have No Idea What They Are Talking About</title>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-95851</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s not really a surprise coming from an American perspective.  Please recall that it&#039;s the US that has played the most significant hindrance to progress in Asian progress:
- CIA interference in the China, Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Vietnam, ok all of them
- Cambodians may not know their history but I don&#039;t think many know Cambodia&#039;s history.  eg. that the good ol US of A was the prime reason for Pol Pots rise to power?  
- &quot;Elites&quot; in many Asian (esp Southeast Asian) countries does mean speaking English and the rest of that.  Thank you America.

But all this can change.  Just look at what&#039;s happening right now in South America with UNASUR.  It can all change once American power end influence ebb---as is happening now.  Interesting times are ahead....

[btw, please please please don&#039;t keep repeating the &quot;Russian invaded Georgia&quot; mantra that your news is feeding you.  Only in North America reported it that way, check out the international papers--and I&#039;m not talking small lefty stuff, I&#039;m talking mainstream Europe--it was Georgia that invaded South Ossessia which was protected by Russian peacekeepers under an international mandate.  The Russians were DEFENDING S. Ossessia, and the people there completely supported their actions and condemned Georgian aggression.  Georgia is a US satellite and their president a puppet.  What&#039;s happened and is happening in Asia, is happening everywhere!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s not really a surprise coming from an American perspective.  Please recall that it&#8217;s the US that has played the most significant hindrance to progress in Asian progress:<br />
- CIA interference in the China, Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Vietnam, ok all of them<br />
- Cambodians may not know their history but I don&#8217;t think many know Cambodia&#8217;s history.  eg. that the good ol US of A was the prime reason for Pol Pots rise to power?<br />
- &#8220;Elites&#8221; in many Asian (esp Southeast Asian) countries does mean speaking English and the rest of that.  Thank you America.</p>
<p>But all this can change.  Just look at what&#8217;s happening right now in South America with UNASUR.  It can all change once American power end influence ebb&#8212;as is happening now.  Interesting times are ahead&#8230;.</p>
<p>[btw, please please please don't keep repeating the "Russian invaded Georgia" mantra that your news is feeding you.  Only in North America reported it that way, check out the international papers--and I'm not talking small lefty stuff, I'm talking mainstream Europe--it was Georgia that invaded South Ossessia which was protected by Russian peacekeepers under an international mandate.  The Russians were DEFENDING S. Ossessia, and the people there completely supported their actions and condemned Georgian aggression.  Georgia is a US satellite and their president a puppet.  What's happened and is happening in Asia, is happening everywhere!]</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-141496</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s not really a surprise coming from an American perspective.  Please recall that it&#039;s the US that has played the most significant hindrance to progress in Asian progress:
- CIA interference in the China, Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Vietnam, ok all of them
- Cambodians may not know their history but I don&#039;t think many know Cambodia&#039;s history.  eg. that the good ol US of A was the prime reason for Pol Pots rise to power?  
- &quot;Elites&quot; in many Asian (esp Southeast Asian) countries does mean speaking English and the rest of that.  Thank you America.

But all this can change.  Just look at what&#039;s happening right now in South America with UNASUR.  It can all change once American power end influence ebb---as is happening now.  Interesting times are ahead....

[btw, please please please don&#039;t keep repeating the &quot;Russian invaded Georgia&quot; mantra that your news is feeding you.  Only in North America reported it that way, check out the international papers--and I&#039;m not talking small lefty stuff, I&#039;m talking mainstream Europe--it was Georgia that invaded South Ossessia which was protected by Russian peacekeepers under an international mandate.  The Russians were DEFENDING S. Ossessia, and the people there completely supported their actions and condemned Georgian aggression.  Georgia is a US satellite and their president a puppet.  What&#039;s happened and is happening in Asia, is happening everywhere!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s not really a surprise coming from an American perspective.  Please recall that it&#8217;s the US that has played the most significant hindrance to progress in Asian progress:<br />
- CIA interference in the China, Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Vietnam, ok all of them<br />
- Cambodians may not know their history but I don&#8217;t think many know Cambodia&#8217;s history.  eg. that the good ol US of A was the prime reason for Pol Pots rise to power?<br />
- &#8220;Elites&#8221; in many Asian (esp Southeast Asian) countries does mean speaking English and the rest of that.  Thank you America.</p>
<p>But all this can change.  Just look at what&#8217;s happening right now in South America with UNASUR.  It can all change once American power end influence ebb&#8212;as is happening now.  Interesting times are ahead&#8230;.</p>
<p>[btw, please please please don't keep repeating the "Russian invaded Georgia" mantra that your news is feeding you.  Only in North America reported it that way, check out the international papers--and I'm not talking small lefty stuff, I'm talking mainstream Europe--it was Georgia that invaded South Ossessia which was protected by Russian peacekeepers under an international mandate.  The Russians were DEFENDING S. Ossessia, and the people there completely supported their actions and condemned Georgian aggression.  Georgia is a US satellite and their president a puppet.  What's happened and is happening in Asia, is happening everywhere!]</p>
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		<title>By: CanelaNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-94348</link>
		<dc:creator>CanelaNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff C. - While echoing Akrypti&#039;s point re: perspective juxtaposed with qualifications, the source of one&#039;s &quot;qualifications&quot; does not make the information they espouse any more correct, relevant or responsible than data from someone sans comparable &quot;qualifications.&quot; (See: all the &quot;expert intelligence&quot; sources quoted and referenced to support the Iraq war.)

That said, I read the article and some of the same statements Jun notes above stuck out to me to be devoid of any quantitative analysis and heck, even the qualitative was shaky. That sometimes happens when you use anecdotal evidence but it&#039;s usually to bolster a more comprehensive statement. His WHOLE statement was a generalization supported by anecdotal evidence. And that just doesn&#039;t hold water in a real and logical debate.

I don&#039;t agree with the &quot;liberal trash&quot; statement - trash is trash - but I do agree that you probably wouldn&#039;t see this published in The Economist. Well, not a few years ago anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff C. &#8211; While echoing Akrypti&#8217;s point re: perspective juxtaposed with qualifications, the source of one&#8217;s &#8220;qualifications&#8221; does not make the information they espouse any more correct, relevant or responsible than data from someone sans comparable &#8220;qualifications.&#8221; (See: all the &#8220;expert intelligence&#8221; sources quoted and referenced to support the Iraq war.)</p>
<p>That said, I read the article and some of the same statements Jun notes above stuck out to me to be devoid of any quantitative analysis and heck, even the qualitative was shaky. That sometimes happens when you use anecdotal evidence but it&#8217;s usually to bolster a more comprehensive statement. His WHOLE statement was a generalization supported by anecdotal evidence. And that just doesn&#8217;t hold water in a real and logical debate.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the &#8220;liberal trash&#8221; statement &#8211; trash is trash &#8211; but I do agree that you probably wouldn&#8217;t see this published in The Economist. Well, not a few years ago anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CanelaNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-141495</link>
		<dc:creator>CanelaNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff C. - While echoing Akrypti&#039;s point re: perspective juxtaposed with qualifications, the source of one&#039;s &quot;qualifications&quot; does not make the information they espouse any more correct, relevant or responsible than data from someone sans comparable &quot;qualifications.&quot; (See: all the &quot;expert intelligence&quot; sources quoted and referenced to support the Iraq war.)

That said, I read the article and some of the same statements Jun notes above stuck out to me to be devoid of any quantitative analysis and heck, even the qualitative was shaky. That sometimes happens when you use anecdotal evidence but it&#039;s usually to bolster a more comprehensive statement. His WHOLE statement was a generalization supported by anecdotal evidence. And that just doesn&#039;t hold water in a real and logical debate.

I don&#039;t agree with the &quot;liberal trash&quot; statement - trash is trash - but I do agree that you probably wouldn&#039;t see this published in The Economist. Well, not a few years ago anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff C. &#8211; While echoing Akrypti&#8217;s point re: perspective juxtaposed with qualifications, the source of one&#8217;s &#8220;qualifications&#8221; does not make the information they espouse any more correct, relevant or responsible than data from someone sans comparable &#8220;qualifications.&#8221; (See: all the &#8220;expert intelligence&#8221; sources quoted and referenced to support the Iraq war.)</p>
<p>That said, I read the article and some of the same statements Jun notes above stuck out to me to be devoid of any quantitative analysis and heck, even the qualitative was shaky. That sometimes happens when you use anecdotal evidence but it&#8217;s usually to bolster a more comprehensive statement. His WHOLE statement was a generalization supported by anecdotal evidence. And that just doesn&#8217;t hold water in a real and logical debate.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the &#8220;liberal trash&#8221; statement &#8211; trash is trash &#8211; but I do agree that you probably wouldn&#8217;t see this published in The Economist. Well, not a few years ago anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff C.</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-90325</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys DO realize that he&#039;s classified as an &quot;Expert&quot; by the Carnegie Endowment Program, right? This is an international non-profit &quot;think tank&quot; for international relationships. They just don&#039;t pick nobody&#039;s off the street... he has to have proven himself in one way or another, most likely through research.

Not only that, but his book on China, &quot;Charm Offensive&quot;, was nominated for the Arthur Ross Book Award, an award specifically for books on foreign policy.

Article aside, I would say the guy himself is legit. Don&#039;t attack his credentials based on one opinion piece he wrote for the WaPo... (why are you even READING WaPo? complete liberal trash!). Have you read his book? Read his research papers? Done anything other than a quick Google search of his name?

What are YOUR qualifications? How many years have you spent studying about or living in China?

Thinking that he can&#039;t be an expert or that he&#039;s an &quot;outsider&quot; just because he&#039;s not Asian... that&#039;s true racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys DO realize that he&#8217;s classified as an &#8220;Expert&#8221; by the Carnegie Endowment Program, right? This is an international non-profit &#8220;think tank&#8221; for international relationships. They just don&#8217;t pick nobody&#8217;s off the street&#8230; he has to have proven himself in one way or another, most likely through research.</p>
<p>Not only that, but his book on China, &#8220;Charm Offensive&#8221;, was nominated for the Arthur Ross Book Award, an award specifically for books on foreign policy.</p>
<p>Article aside, I would say the guy himself is legit. Don&#8217;t attack his credentials based on one opinion piece he wrote for the WaPo&#8230; (why are you even READING WaPo? complete liberal trash!). Have you read his book? Read his research papers? Done anything other than a quick Google search of his name?</p>
<p>What are YOUR qualifications? How many years have you spent studying about or living in China?</p>
<p>Thinking that he can&#8217;t be an expert or that he&#8217;s an &#8220;outsider&#8221; just because he&#8217;s not Asian&#8230; that&#8217;s true racism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff C.</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-141494</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys DO realize that he&#039;s classified as an &quot;Expert&quot; by the Carnegie Endowment Program, right? This is an international non-profit &quot;think tank&quot; for international relationships. They just don&#039;t pick nobody&#039;s off the street... he has to have proven himself in one way or another, most likely through research.

Not only that, but his book on China, &quot;Charm Offensive&quot;, was nominated for the Arthur Ross Book Award, an award specifically for books on foreign policy.

Article aside, I would say the guy himself is legit. Don&#039;t attack his credentials based on one opinion piece he wrote for the WaPo... (why are you even READING WaPo? complete liberal trash!). Have you read his book? Read his research papers? Done anything other than a quick Google search of his name?

What are YOUR qualifications? How many years have you spent studying about or living in China?

Thinking that he can&#039;t be an expert or that he&#039;s an &quot;outsider&quot; just because he&#039;s not Asian... that&#039;s true racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys DO realize that he&#8217;s classified as an &#8220;Expert&#8221; by the Carnegie Endowment Program, right? This is an international non-profit &#8220;think tank&#8221; for international relationships. They just don&#8217;t pick nobody&#8217;s off the street&#8230; he has to have proven himself in one way or another, most likely through research.</p>
<p>Not only that, but his book on China, &#8220;Charm Offensive&#8221;, was nominated for the Arthur Ross Book Award, an award specifically for books on foreign policy.</p>
<p>Article aside, I would say the guy himself is legit. Don&#8217;t attack his credentials based on one opinion piece he wrote for the WaPo&#8230; (why are you even READING WaPo? complete liberal trash!). Have you read his book? Read his research papers? Done anything other than a quick Google search of his name?</p>
<p>What are YOUR qualifications? How many years have you spent studying about or living in China?</p>
<p>Thinking that he can&#8217;t be an expert or that he&#8217;s an &#8220;outsider&#8221; just because he&#8217;s not Asian&#8230; that&#8217;s true racism.</p>
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		<title>By: Akrypti</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/09/it-just-isnt-looking-like-asias-centuryproof-that-expats-have-no-idea-what-they-are-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-90308</link>
		<dc:creator>Akrypti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I spent a decade traveling across Asia, would my opinions on Asia-related issues count as &quot;expert&quot;? I have a feeling that folks wouldn&#039;t dispute too much what I said (albeit attributable more to the fact I&#039;m Asian than the fact I traveled across Asia), even though the truth of the matter is that I&#039;d be in the same exact shoes as the author of the above-referenced article. 

His conclusions are grounded in his experiences. I wouldn&#039;t reject him out of hand as &quot;unqualified.&quot; Rather, I&#039;d contend that his conclusions are based on experiences that have been colored by latent Eurocentric biases. There&#039;s a distinction between that and simply &quot;unqualified.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I spent a decade traveling across Asia, would my opinions on Asia-related issues count as &#8220;expert&#8221;? I have a feeling that folks wouldn&#8217;t dispute too much what I said (albeit attributable more to the fact I&#8217;m Asian than the fact I traveled across Asia), even though the truth of the matter is that I&#8217;d be in the same exact shoes as the author of the above-referenced article. </p>
<p>His conclusions are grounded in his experiences. I wouldn&#8217;t reject him out of hand as &#8220;unqualified.&#8221; Rather, I&#8217;d contend that his conclusions are based on experiences that have been colored by latent Eurocentric biases. There&#8217;s a distinction between that and simply &#8220;unqualified.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Akrypti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akrypti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I spent a decade traveling across Asia, would my opinions on Asia-related issues count as &quot;expert&quot;? I have a feeling that folks wouldn&#039;t dispute too much what I said (albeit attributable more to the fact I&#039;m Asian than the fact I traveled across Asia), even though the truth of the matter is that I&#039;d be in the same exact shoes as the author of the above-referenced article. 

His conclusions are grounded in his experiences. I wouldn&#039;t reject him out of hand as &quot;unqualified.&quot; Rather, I&#039;d contend that his conclusions are based on experiences that have been colored by latent Eurocentric biases. There&#039;s a distinction between that and simply &quot;unqualified.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I spent a decade traveling across Asia, would my opinions on Asia-related issues count as &#8220;expert&#8221;? I have a feeling that folks wouldn&#8217;t dispute too much what I said (albeit attributable more to the fact I&#8217;m Asian than the fact I traveled across Asia), even though the truth of the matter is that I&#8217;d be in the same exact shoes as the author of the above-referenced article. </p>
<p>His conclusions are grounded in his experiences. I wouldn&#8217;t reject him out of hand as &#8220;unqualified.&#8221; Rather, I&#8217;d contend that his conclusions are based on experiences that have been colored by latent Eurocentric biases. There&#8217;s a distinction between that and simply &#8220;unqualified.&#8221;</p>
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