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	<title>Comments on: LPGA Changes Policy Due to Backlash</title>
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		<title>By: darkmoon</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-90769</link>
		<dc:creator>darkmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one said anything about fluid English.   But on the flip side, the point was to make it more marketable for sponsors, was it not?   If so, then like I&#039;ve said: as a business perspective, I don&#039;t see it as an issue.   Having had many friends that were fluent in English even as ESL, and then having others that couldn&#039;t speak but broken English after years of being in ESL, I have to say that I&#039;ve never been very forgiving of the latter.

But in a professional sport, speaking the language is as much a part of the business as  playing the sport itself.

As far as the penalizing those that &quot;don&#039;t have the time to&quot;, truthfully I didn&#039;t have time for English growing up, yet I had to learn it like the rest the kids growing up.   How is that any less fair?  And in the same mannerism, why should the SAT even have reading comprehension and English writing on it?  If we&#039;re going to play against the whole English policy game, then why have it for anything else?

I&#039;ll just leave it at that since Efren&#039;s already killed the issue anyways.   I still have an issue with people not being able to speak English though.  If you can&#039;t read the rules properly (which was the original cited piece), that&#039;s going to be a problem regardless of whether or not you need or want to conduct interviews or communicate with sponsors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one said anything about fluid English.   But on the flip side, the point was to make it more marketable for sponsors, was it not?   If so, then like I&#8217;ve said: as a business perspective, I don&#8217;t see it as an issue.   Having had many friends that were fluent in English even as ESL, and then having others that couldn&#8217;t speak but broken English after years of being in ESL, I have to say that I&#8217;ve never been very forgiving of the latter.</p>
<p>But in a professional sport, speaking the language is as much a part of the business as  playing the sport itself.</p>
<p>As far as the penalizing those that &#8220;don&#8217;t have the time to&#8221;, truthfully I didn&#8217;t have time for English growing up, yet I had to learn it like the rest the kids growing up.   How is that any less fair?  And in the same mannerism, why should the SAT even have reading comprehension and English writing on it?  If we&#8217;re going to play against the whole English policy game, then why have it for anything else?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just leave it at that since Efren&#8217;s already killed the issue anyways.   I still have an issue with people not being able to speak English though.  If you can&#8217;t read the rules properly (which was the original cited piece), that&#8217;s going to be a problem regardless of whether or not you need or want to conduct interviews or communicate with sponsors.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Hwang</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-139101</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Hwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one said anything about fluid English.   But on the flip side, the point was to make it more marketable for sponsors, was it not?   If so, then like I&#039;ve said: as a business perspective, I don&#039;t see it as an issue.   Having had many friends that were fluent in English even as ESL, and then having others that couldn&#039;t speak but broken English after years of being in ESL, I have to say that I&#039;ve never been very forgiving of the latter.

But in a professional sport, speaking the language is as much a part of the business as  playing the sport itself.

As far as the penalizing those that &quot;don&#039;t have the time to&quot;, truthfully I didn&#039;t have time for English growing up, yet I had to learn it like the rest the kids growing up.   How is that any less fair?  And in the same mannerism, why should the SAT even have reading comprehension and English writing on it?  If we&#039;re going to play against the whole English policy game, then why have it for anything else?

I&#039;ll just leave it at that since Efren&#039;s already killed the issue anyways.   I still have an issue with people not being able to speak English though.  If you can&#039;t read the rules properly (which was the original cited piece), that&#039;s going to be a problem regardless of whether or not you need or want to conduct interviews or communicate with sponsors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one said anything about fluid English.   But on the flip side, the point was to make it more marketable for sponsors, was it not?   If so, then like I&#8217;ve said: as a business perspective, I don&#8217;t see it as an issue.   Having had many friends that were fluent in English even as ESL, and then having others that couldn&#8217;t speak but broken English after years of being in ESL, I have to say that I&#8217;ve never been very forgiving of the latter.</p>
<p>But in a professional sport, speaking the language is as much a part of the business as  playing the sport itself.</p>
<p>As far as the penalizing those that &#8220;don&#8217;t have the time to&#8221;, truthfully I didn&#8217;t have time for English growing up, yet I had to learn it like the rest the kids growing up.   How is that any less fair?  And in the same mannerism, why should the SAT even have reading comprehension and English writing on it?  If we&#8217;re going to play against the whole English policy game, then why have it for anything else?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just leave it at that since Efren&#8217;s already killed the issue anyways.   I still have an issue with people not being able to speak English though.  If you can&#8217;t read the rules properly (which was the original cited piece), that&#8217;s going to be a problem regardless of whether or not you need or want to conduct interviews or communicate with sponsors.</p>
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		<title>By: Moye</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-90699</link>
		<dc:creator>Moye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as how they&#039;re such a small organization, they would have to extend more of their limited resources in setting up an official mock interview for each participant? And what, hire a panel of judges to determine how well their English language skills are? Do they throw in a couple puns and idioms so throw the golfers off? Who exactly gets to decide what competent English skills mean? What if someone has a learning disability and can&#039;t pick up languages very easily? Do they create special rules for that? 

I doubt a month is really enough for people to learn how to speak fluid English.

Dealing with a variety of languages is part of job when you manage a sport that is popular among non-English speaking countries. Let them play golf. 

I&#039;m not suggesting that they NOT learn English. They should and it&#039;ll always benefit them. But don&#039;t penalize those who don&#039;t have the time to, don&#039;t have the skills and don&#039;t have this supposed level of speaking English that you assume they should have.

I think we have enough problems with people discriminating American citizens who have accents or are ESL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as how they&#8217;re such a small organization, they would have to extend more of their limited resources in setting up an official mock interview for each participant? And what, hire a panel of judges to determine how well their English language skills are? Do they throw in a couple puns and idioms so throw the golfers off? Who exactly gets to decide what competent English skills mean? What if someone has a learning disability and can&#8217;t pick up languages very easily? Do they create special rules for that? </p>
<p>I doubt a month is really enough for people to learn how to speak fluid English.</p>
<p>Dealing with a variety of languages is part of job when you manage a sport that is popular among non-English speaking countries. Let them play golf. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that they NOT learn English. They should and it&#8217;ll always benefit them. But don&#8217;t penalize those who don&#8217;t have the time to, don&#8217;t have the skills and don&#8217;t have this supposed level of speaking English that you assume they should have.</p>
<p>I think we have enough problems with people discriminating American citizens who have accents or are ESL.</p>
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		<title>By: Moye</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-139100</link>
		<dc:creator>Moye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as how they&#039;re such a small organization, they would have to extend more of their limited resources in setting up an official mock interview for each participant? And what, hire a panel of judges to determine how well their English language skills are? Do they throw in a couple puns and idioms so throw the golfers off? Who exactly gets to decide what competent English skills mean? What if someone has a learning disability and can&#039;t pick up languages very easily? Do they create special rules for that? 

I doubt a month is really enough for people to learn how to speak fluid English.

Dealing with a variety of languages is part of job when you manage a sport that is popular among non-English speaking countries. Let them play golf. 

I&#039;m not suggesting that they NOT learn English. They should and it&#039;ll always benefit them. But don&#039;t penalize those who don&#039;t have the time to, don&#039;t have the skills and don&#039;t have this supposed level of speaking English that you assume they should have.

I think we have enough problems with people discriminating American citizens who have accents or are ESL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as how they&#8217;re such a small organization, they would have to extend more of their limited resources in setting up an official mock interview for each participant? And what, hire a panel of judges to determine how well their English language skills are? Do they throw in a couple puns and idioms so throw the golfers off? Who exactly gets to decide what competent English skills mean? What if someone has a learning disability and can&#8217;t pick up languages very easily? Do they create special rules for that? </p>
<p>I doubt a month is really enough for people to learn how to speak fluid English.</p>
<p>Dealing with a variety of languages is part of job when you manage a sport that is popular among non-English speaking countries. Let them play golf. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that they NOT learn English. They should and it&#8217;ll always benefit them. But don&#8217;t penalize those who don&#8217;t have the time to, don&#8217;t have the skills and don&#8217;t have this supposed level of speaking English that you assume they should have.</p>
<p>I think we have enough problems with people discriminating American citizens who have accents or are ESL.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-90675</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Moye: I&#039;d say that if they couldn&#039;t participate in an example interview, they&#039;d have a month to work on it and re-do.

@Efren: If that is indeed the case, then why is the commissioner still around?  That&#039;s causation to forced step-down.  Again, I still don&#039;t see the issue, if sponsors had background commentary about it.   I would point out though, that even if Samsung or State Farm did have that?  Their PR people wouldn&#039;t admit to it anyways.   It all depends on where this is being done, not so much of whether or not it was South Korean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Moye: I&#8217;d say that if they couldn&#8217;t participate in an example interview, they&#8217;d have a month to work on it and re-do.</p>
<p>@Efren: If that is indeed the case, then why is the commissioner still around?  That&#8217;s causation to forced step-down.  Again, I still don&#8217;t see the issue, if sponsors had background commentary about it.   I would point out though, that even if Samsung or State Farm did have that?  Their PR people wouldn&#8217;t admit to it anyways.   It all depends on where this is being done, not so much of whether or not it was South Korean.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-139099</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Moye: I&#039;d say that if they couldn&#039;t participate in an example interview, they&#039;d have a month to work on it and re-do.

@Efren: If that is indeed the case, then why is the commissioner still around?  That&#039;s causation to forced step-down.  Again, I still don&#039;t see the issue, if sponsors had background commentary about it.   I would point out though, that even if Samsung or State Farm did have that?  Their PR people wouldn&#039;t admit to it anyways.   It all depends on where this is being done, not so much of whether or not it was South Korean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Moye: I&#8217;d say that if they couldn&#8217;t participate in an example interview, they&#8217;d have a month to work on it and re-do.</p>
<p>@Efren: If that is indeed the case, then why is the commissioner still around?  That&#8217;s causation to forced step-down.  Again, I still don&#8217;t see the issue, if sponsors had background commentary about it.   I would point out though, that even if Samsung or State Farm did have that?  Their PR people wouldn&#8217;t admit to it anyways.   It all depends on where this is being done, not so much of whether or not it was South Korean.</p>
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		<title>By: Moye</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-90652</link>
		<dc:creator>Moye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious to know how allowing players to speak their native language would have an adverse effect on an organization&#039;s ability to run itself, grow or make money. 

And if it does negatively affect running your organization, how exactly would you regulate the people&#039;s English skills? Would there be an oral exam? Grammar lessons? It all sounds a little ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to know how allowing players to speak their native language would have an adverse effect on an organization&#8217;s ability to run itself, grow or make money. </p>
<p>And if it does negatively affect running your organization, how exactly would you regulate the people&#8217;s English skills? Would there be an oral exam? Grammar lessons? It all sounds a little ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Moye</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2008/09/13/lpga-changes-policy-to-backlash/comment-page-1/#comment-139098</link>
		<dc:creator>Moye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious to know how allowing players to speak their native language would have an adverse effect on an organization&#039;s ability to run itself, grow or make money. 

And if it does negatively affect running your organization, how exactly would you regulate the people&#039;s English skills? Would there be an oral exam? Grammar lessons? It all sounds a little ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to know how allowing players to speak their native language would have an adverse effect on an organization&#8217;s ability to run itself, grow or make money. </p>
<p>And if it does negatively affect running your organization, how exactly would you regulate the people&#8217;s English skills? Would there be an oral exam? Grammar lessons? It all sounds a little ridiculous.</p>
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