Comments on: High Grades, High Stress for Asian-American Students in Bay Area http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/ A blog for Asian Americans Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:44:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Boogerhead http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-150294 Boogerhead Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:42:54 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-150294 Have you noticed a cultural change in children who go to predominantly Asian schools? That's what I am afraid of - that kids who aren't being taught to be well-rounded would influence my kids because of being from the same Asian background. Have you noticed a cultural change in children who go to predominantly Asian schools? That’s what I am afraid of – that kids who aren’t being taught to be well-rounded would influence my kids because of being from the same Asian background.

]]> By: Boogerhead http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-150292 Boogerhead Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:40:03 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-150292 And there is nothing lovely about a six year old who looks and tries to act like a twelve year old. I'm not a fan of teaching kids to be 'elderly" which is not the same as precocious. There's something articificial about children who have been implanted with all their parent's adult concerns. And there is nothing lovely about a six year old who looks and tries to act like a twelve year old. I’m not a fan of teaching kids to be ‘elderly” which is not the same as precocious. There’s something articificial about children who have been implanted with all their parent’s adult concerns.

]]> By: Boogerhead http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-150291 Boogerhead Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:38:10 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-150291 My parents were indifferent to kids so I didn't learn to read until I started grade school at Age 5/6 and I didn't start reading books until I was 8 but I was known for being pretty good in English and a bookworm so the late start didn't hurt me despite the many typos on this site. I was pretty doofusy as a 6 year old and since my parents didn't believe in toys, I always wanted a toy kitchen because I never got to play with it in nursery school. Until my kid starts grade school, I just want them to play and naturally learn from being new to the world. Learning their numbers and alphabet will probably come about in the process but I don't believe all the hype about starting early. I think kids have mushy brains and need to absorb and sort out information over years. I can't imagne making a toddler cry to get them to learn grade school level math and reading. When reading finally clicked, I flew. My parents were indifferent to kids so I didn’t learn to read until I started grade school at Age 5/6 and I didn’t start reading books until I was 8 but I was known for being pretty good in English and a bookworm so the late start didn’t hurt me despite the many typos on this site. I was pretty doofusy as a 6 year old and since my parents didn’t believe in toys, I always wanted a toy kitchen because I never got to play with it in nursery school. Until my kid starts grade school, I just want them to play and naturally learn from being new to the world. Learning their numbers and alphabet will probably come about in the process but I don’t believe all the hype about starting early. I think kids have mushy brains and need to absorb and sort out information over years. I can’t imagne making a toddler cry to get them to learn grade school level math and reading. When reading finally clicked, I flew.

]]> By: Boogerhead http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-150289 Boogerhead Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:29:17 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-150289 Are your parents super perfect and successful themselves or have they never had to live up to their own standards? I only want a baby to cuddle and love and I would definitely help them do their homework and reach their personal best but I would only have children because I am specifically crazy about children for their own sake. I wouldn't even get married or have children if it meant interrupting my own academic and career trajectory if not for true love - that's the only reason to get inconvenience your life. I don't understand how lecturing kids in a haranguing manner is about loving them for their own good. I haven't read Tiger Mom but I get the impression that that isn't what that book is really about. I witnessed a Chinese mom on Long Island throw away a barbie doll that her daughters were fighting over - they weren't even being loud - just the fact that they dared to argue in front of guests. I think there is a primitive idea about child rearing and discipline that is falsely associated with Chinese success stories that bad parents use to justify their treatment of their kids. Kids are supposed to be recipients of parental affection and attention - that's the only reason to have kids. Are your parents super perfect and successful themselves or have they never had to live up to their own standards? I only want a baby to cuddle and love and I would definitely help them do their homework and reach their personal best but I would only have children because I am specifically crazy about children for their own sake. I wouldn’t even get married or have children if it meant interrupting my own academic and career trajectory if not for true love – that’s the only reason to get inconvenience your life. I don’t understand how lecturing kids in a haranguing manner is about loving them for their own good. I haven’t read Tiger Mom but I get the impression that that isn’t what that book is really about. I witnessed a Chinese mom on Long Island throw away a barbie doll that her daughters were fighting over – they weren’t even being loud – just the fact that they dared to argue in front of guests. I think there is a primitive idea about child rearing and discipline that is falsely associated with Chinese success stories that bad parents use to justify their treatment of their kids. Kids are supposed to be recipients of parental affection and attention – that’s the only reason to have kids.

]]> By: The Rise of Asian Ethnoburbs | Current Events | 8Asians.com http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-148216 The Rise of Asian Ethnoburbs | Current Events | 8Asians.com Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:24:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-148216 [...] as a cause.   Intermarriage is also less likely when whites are leaving like in Santa Clara or being reluctant to move in (or both) like in Cupertino.   My experiences, particularly with youth sports, tell me Silicon [...] [...] as a cause.   Intermarriage is also less likely when whites are leaving like in Santa Clara or being reluctant to move in (or both) like in Cupertino.   My experiences, particularly with youth sports, tell me Silicon [...]

]]> By: Lexington, MA Adjusts to Growing Asian Population | Current Events | 8Asians.com http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-132707 Lexington, MA Adjusts to Growing Asian Population | Current Events | 8Asians.com Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:07:21 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-132707 [...] In high school, out of a graduating class of 273 students, there were maybe 5 Asian Americans. I had 2 cousins, an aunt and an uncle in the greater Boston area, so I knew there were more Asians there. But to think of any town in Massachusetts where 25% of the students are Asian is just mind boggling to me. I’ve blogged about California Asian American culture shock – but if I moved to Lexington, I think I’d be shocked to find so many Asians in a Massachusetts city. I wonder if there will be any backlash in the near future, like a “new white flight” and complaints about high school competitiveness. [...] [...] In high school, out of a graduating class of 273 students, there were maybe 5 Asian Americans. I had 2 cousins, an aunt and an uncle in the greater Boston area, so I knew there were more Asians there. But to think of any town in Massachusetts where 25% of the students are Asian is just mind boggling to me. I’ve blogged about California Asian American culture shock – but if I moved to Lexington, I think I’d be shocked to find so many Asians in a Massachusetts city. I wonder if there will be any backlash in the near future, like a “new white flight” and complaints about high school competitiveness. [...]

]]> By: katherineyu http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-130533 katherineyu Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:24:14 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-130533 I'm a 16 year-old Chinese girl and I have definitely felt parental pressure on me to be perfect. It's not just academics; it's also extracurriculars and awards. My parents lecture me if I get anything lower than an A, even though I have had straight A's for the past two years and my only B+ currently is in Honors Physics. I'm in Spanish Honor Society, the school marching band, NHS, FPS, the debate team, the environmental club, and the biology club. I'm ranked third in my district in debate, the marching band has won states two years in a row, I'm going to debate Nationals, my team won fourth place at FPS states, I volunteer as a tour guide at a museum, and I have an internship doing research this summer. It's still not enough. I've been badgered to do even better, to win more, and to participate in even more activities. It's not just the West Coast; I'm on the East Coast. I really think that Asian parents think differently from a lot of other parents... I'm a 16 year-old Chinese girl and I have definitely felt parental pressure on me to be perfect. It's not just academics; it's also extracurriculars and awards. My parents lecture me if I get anything lower than an A, even though I have had straight A's for the past two years and my only B+ currently is in Honors Physics. I'm in Spanish Honor Society, the school marching band, NHS, FPS, the debate team, the environmental club, and the biology club. I'm ranked third in my district in debate, the marching band has won states two years in a row, I'm going to debate Nationals, my team won fourth place at FPS states, I volunteer as a tour guide at a museum, and I have an internship doing research this summer. It's still not enough. I've been badgered to do even better, to win more, and to participate in even more activities. It's not just the West Coast; I'm on the East Coast. I really think that Asian parents think differently from a lot of other parents…

]]> By: Allen J http://www.8asians.com/2009/01/06/success-gap-high-grades-high-stress-for-asian-american-students-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-128552 Allen J Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:51:04 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=2445#comment-128552 I went to Mission, and it was great.<br><br>All of my friends that did well there are continuing to do well in college and in industry. <br><br>I agree with Leslie, there seems to be a huge disconnect between the stressful life at MSJ and the stressful life of a typical high school. I'm sure Mission scores significantly in terms of drug usage, crime, bullying, etc.<br><br>The "negative" stereotypes are the exact same ones used against the "elitist ivy-league schoolers." It's nothing new. Going to Harvard is still going to be way better than some random place, so what's the fuss? I went to Mission, and it was great.

All of my friends that did well there are continuing to do well in college and in industry.

I agree with Leslie, there seems to be a huge disconnect between the stressful life at MSJ and the stressful life of a typical high school. I'm sure Mission scores significantly in terms of drug usage, crime, bullying, etc.

The “negative” stereotypes are the exact same ones used against the “elitist ivy-league schoolers.” It's nothing new. Going to Harvard is still going to be way better than some random place, so what's the fuss?

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