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	<title>Comments on: On Stereotypes, Assimilation and a Manhattan Bar called Park</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-115725</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rob brings up some good points - the debate here over assimilation or segregation is essentially what we all struggle with in realizing our identity as Asians in America. I&#039;d say to simply have a club/bar where Asians predominantly hang is neither intrinsically good or bad. Like some comments here - a bar that caters to asians - so what? They&#039;re making good money on Asian yuppies. 

However,  I think Rob&#039;s argument is why hang out here exclusively with other Asians, when it would be far more beneficial for the &quot;Asian American image&quot; if the asians chilling at Park were to be hanging out with a more diverse (or white?) crowd. The real question here, is how willing anyone is in exploring beyond their comfort zones.

I think its a hard call. To assimilate or segregate? Like I said, this is what all of us(minorities) struggle with. In an ideal world, we simply wouldn&#039;t have to make this choice. Some might say that in an ideal world, we (asians) would have the white privilege and be able to accept and reject things from other cultures. But there are obvious pitfalls with this kind of thinking too. 

At the end of the day, we&#039;re back in the real world - a world of subtle grays. Where its not as easy as simply choosing to asimilate or segregate. Maybe one asian guy grew up in a predominantly asian community and has always just felt more comfortable associating with asians. Maybe another asian guy, growing up in the SAME asian community loved listening to foo fighters and made friends with people with similar tastes in music, and formed lasting friendships, which by chance turned out to be mostly white people (i know weak example). But that&#039;s life. 

Rob asked if it was wrong for asians to congregate like this. I don&#039;t think its wrong, BUT i do think that if you find yourself hanging out with mostly asians, going mostly to &quot;asian clubs&quot; and yes, hitting on mostly asian girls, then maybe you should consider expanding your comfort zone. You might learn a thing or two about yourself or that &quot;foreign other&quot;...

On a side note - i&#039;ve been to park a few times, lots of asians each time. More east asians than south asians, but u definitely see cute desi girls there too. And my best memory of park was seeing this asian guy roll up on a black girl dancing on top of the whirlpool on the 2nd floor...they grind for a bit, then he picks her up and grinds his face into her crotch, goes &quot;whooo!&quot; turns to me and asks if i wanna give that a go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rob brings up some good points &#8211; the debate here over assimilation or segregation is essentially what we all struggle with in realizing our identity as Asians in America. I&#8217;d say to simply have a club/bar where Asians predominantly hang is neither intrinsically good or bad. Like some comments here &#8211; a bar that caters to asians &#8211; so what? They&#8217;re making good money on Asian yuppies. </p>
<p>However,  I think Rob&#8217;s argument is why hang out here exclusively with other Asians, when it would be far more beneficial for the &#8220;Asian American image&#8221; if the asians chilling at Park were to be hanging out with a more diverse (or white?) crowd. The real question here, is how willing anyone is in exploring beyond their comfort zones.</p>
<p>I think its a hard call. To assimilate or segregate? Like I said, this is what all of us(minorities) struggle with. In an ideal world, we simply wouldn&#8217;t have to make this choice. Some might say that in an ideal world, we (asians) would have the white privilege and be able to accept and reject things from other cultures. But there are obvious pitfalls with this kind of thinking too. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, we&#8217;re back in the real world &#8211; a world of subtle grays. Where its not as easy as simply choosing to asimilate or segregate. Maybe one asian guy grew up in a predominantly asian community and has always just felt more comfortable associating with asians. Maybe another asian guy, growing up in the SAME asian community loved listening to foo fighters and made friends with people with similar tastes in music, and formed lasting friendships, which by chance turned out to be mostly white people (i know weak example). But that&#8217;s life. </p>
<p>Rob asked if it was wrong for asians to congregate like this. I don&#8217;t think its wrong, BUT i do think that if you find yourself hanging out with mostly asians, going mostly to &#8220;asian clubs&#8221; and yes, hitting on mostly asian girls, then maybe you should consider expanding your comfort zone. You might learn a thing or two about yourself or that &#8220;foreign other&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>On a side note &#8211; i&#8217;ve been to park a few times, lots of asians each time. More east asians than south asians, but u definitely see cute desi girls there too. And my best memory of park was seeing this asian guy roll up on a black girl dancing on top of the whirlpool on the 2nd floor&#8230;they grind for a bit, then he picks her up and grinds his face into her crotch, goes &#8220;whooo!&#8221; turns to me and asks if i wanna give that a go</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-140383</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rob brings up some good points - the debate here over assimilation or segregation is essentially what we all struggle with in realizing our identity as Asians in America. I&#039;d say to simply have a club/bar where Asians predominantly hang is neither intrinsically good or bad. Like some comments here - a bar that caters to asians - so what? They&#039;re making good money on Asian yuppies. 

However,  I think Rob&#039;s argument is why hang out here exclusively with other Asians, when it would be far more beneficial for the &quot;Asian American image&quot; if the asians chilling at Park were to be hanging out with a more diverse (or white?) crowd. The real question here, is how willing anyone is in exploring beyond their comfort zones.

I think its a hard call. To assimilate or segregate? Like I said, this is what all of us(minorities) struggle with. In an ideal world, we simply wouldn&#039;t have to make this choice. Some might say that in an ideal world, we (asians) would have the white privilege and be able to accept and reject things from other cultures. But there are obvious pitfalls with this kind of thinking too. 

At the end of the day, we&#039;re back in the real world - a world of subtle grays. Where its not as easy as simply choosing to asimilate or segregate. Maybe one asian guy grew up in a predominantly asian community and has always just felt more comfortable associating with asians. Maybe another asian guy, growing up in the SAME asian community loved listening to foo fighters and made friends with people with similar tastes in music, and formed lasting friendships, which by chance turned out to be mostly white people (i know weak example). But that&#039;s life. 

Rob asked if it was wrong for asians to congregate like this. I don&#039;t think its wrong, BUT i do think that if you find yourself hanging out with mostly asians, going mostly to &quot;asian clubs&quot; and yes, hitting on mostly asian girls, then maybe you should consider expanding your comfort zone. You might learn a thing or two about yourself or that &quot;foreign other&quot;...

On a side note - i&#039;ve been to park a few times, lots of asians each time. More east asians than south asians, but u definitely see cute desi girls there too. And my best memory of park was seeing this asian guy roll up on a black girl dancing on top of the whirlpool on the 2nd floor...they grind for a bit, then he picks her up and grinds his face into her crotch, goes &quot;whooo!&quot; turns to me and asks if i wanna give that a go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rob brings up some good points &#8211; the debate here over assimilation or segregation is essentially what we all struggle with in realizing our identity as Asians in America. I&#8217;d say to simply have a club/bar where Asians predominantly hang is neither intrinsically good or bad. Like some comments here &#8211; a bar that caters to asians &#8211; so what? They&#8217;re making good money on Asian yuppies. </p>
<p>However,  I think Rob&#8217;s argument is why hang out here exclusively with other Asians, when it would be far more beneficial for the &#8220;Asian American image&#8221; if the asians chilling at Park were to be hanging out with a more diverse (or white?) crowd. The real question here, is how willing anyone is in exploring beyond their comfort zones.</p>
<p>I think its a hard call. To assimilate or segregate? Like I said, this is what all of us(minorities) struggle with. In an ideal world, we simply wouldn&#8217;t have to make this choice. Some might say that in an ideal world, we (asians) would have the white privilege and be able to accept and reject things from other cultures. But there are obvious pitfalls with this kind of thinking too. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, we&#8217;re back in the real world &#8211; a world of subtle grays. Where its not as easy as simply choosing to asimilate or segregate. Maybe one asian guy grew up in a predominantly asian community and has always just felt more comfortable associating with asians. Maybe another asian guy, growing up in the SAME asian community loved listening to foo fighters and made friends with people with similar tastes in music, and formed lasting friendships, which by chance turned out to be mostly white people (i know weak example). But that&#8217;s life. </p>
<p>Rob asked if it was wrong for asians to congregate like this. I don&#8217;t think its wrong, BUT i do think that if you find yourself hanging out with mostly asians, going mostly to &#8220;asian clubs&#8221; and yes, hitting on mostly asian girls, then maybe you should consider expanding your comfort zone. You might learn a thing or two about yourself or that &#8220;foreign other&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>On a side note &#8211; i&#8217;ve been to park a few times, lots of asians each time. More east asians than south asians, but u definitely see cute desi girls there too. And my best memory of park was seeing this asian guy roll up on a black girl dancing on top of the whirlpool on the 2nd floor&#8230;they grind for a bit, then he picks her up and grinds his face into her crotch, goes &#8220;whooo!&#8221; turns to me and asks if i wanna give that a go</p>
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		<title>By: 8Asians.com &#187; &#8220;Why am I the Coolest Asian You Know?&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-115454</link>
		<dc:creator>8Asians.com &#187; &#8220;Why am I the Coolest Asian You Know?&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more importantly, how do we change this? I argued in a previous post that assimilation is important, and that we need to resist the urge to self segregate. I&#8217;ve always lived by that belief, in part because I see it as being my small way of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more importantly, how do we change this? I argued in a previous post that assimilation is important, and that we need to resist the urge to self segregate. I&#8217;ve always lived by that belief, in part because I see it as being my small way of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-115369</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo I&#039;m gonna hit up this bar next time i&#039;m in New York fa sho! Haha. But seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo I&#8217;m gonna hit up this bar next time i&#8217;m in New York fa sho! Haha. But seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-140382</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo I&#039;m gonna hit up this bar next time i&#039;m in New York fa sho! Haha. But seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo I&#8217;m gonna hit up this bar next time i&#8217;m in New York fa sho! Haha. But seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-115346</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White guy&#039;s jealous of the Asians...... Park looks like a beautiful, comfortable place ~ !  (even if the prices are too high...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White guy&#8217;s jealous of the Asians&#8230;&#8230; Park looks like a beautiful, comfortable place ~ !  (even if the prices are too high&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-140381</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White guy&#039;s jealous of the Asians...... Park looks like a beautiful, comfortable place ~ !  (even if the prices are too high...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White guy&#8217;s jealous of the Asians&#8230;&#8230; Park looks like a beautiful, comfortable place ~ !  (even if the prices are too high&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/08/on-stereotypes-assimilation-and-a-manhattan-bar-called-park/comment-page-1/#comment-115339</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed w/ Brian and John. 

Besides, I think it&#039;s really neat to have a bar that Asians hang out at. Why not? It&#039;s fun to socialize and meet other Asians, after spending our workdays socializing with white people at work! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed w/ Brian and John. </p>
<p>Besides, I think it&#8217;s really neat to have a bar that Asians hang out at. Why not? It&#8217;s fun to socialize and meet other Asians, after spending our workdays socializing with white people at work! <img src='http://dz43m3bsp6hck.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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