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	<title>Comments on: Say My Name: Changing my Adoptive Name</title>
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		<title>By: 8Asians.com &#187; Chinese Adoptees: Stolen or Abandoned?</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-126589</link>
		<dc:creator>8Asians.com &#187; Chinese Adoptees: Stolen or Abandoned?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 05:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stories come as no surprise in a complex situation like foreign adoption in America, where issues of culture, racial identity and misplaced intentions always come to play. Could life get even more complicated for these [...]</description>
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		<title>By: choidog</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-126404</link>
		<dc:creator>choidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CSLi  Well done!  I was very impressed with your thoughtful response to &quot;Kim&quot;.  We&#039;ve been silenced for two and half generations because of mindsets like Kim&#039;s.  It&#039;s time for us to take our rightful place in the reconstruction of the Adoption machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CSLi  Well done!  I was very impressed with your thoughtful response to &#8220;Kim&#8221;.  We&#39;ve been silenced for two and half generations because of mindsets like Kim&#39;s.  It&#39;s time for us to take our rightful place in the reconstruction of the Adoption machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-125425</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Very thought-provoking.  Now that you&#039;ve changed your name, what will you do to change the way things are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Very thought-provoking.  Now that you&#39;ve changed your name, what will you do to change the way things are?</p>
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		<title>By: btstormb2006</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-120236</link>
		<dc:creator>btstormb2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chun-Soon

Congratulations on YOUR decision to change your legal name!  I think that as KADs we may share common threads, but equally important is our ability to have our own sense of self.  Adoption experiences cannot always be lumped together, because we are individuals.  No matter who says it to you, realize that you ALONE have the ability and the right to make decisions, which you feel are best for you.  In turn, those who are not threatened or intimidated by you or your actions, will fully support you. Experience has shown me, no matter where you are (workplace, family, public places, etc), if someone is rude, belligerent or abusive, it is highly likely it is NOT about you, but rather that person and their own insecurities. You can only control what you do in life, and cannot control other people&#039;s responses. Kudos to you for taking a step towards your own personal healing! I wish you much continued peace and understanding throughout your journey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chun-Soon</p>
<p>Congratulations on YOUR decision to change your legal name!  I think that as KADs we may share common threads, but equally important is our ability to have our own sense of self.  Adoption experiences cannot always be lumped together, because we are individuals.  No matter who says it to you, realize that you ALONE have the ability and the right to make decisions, which you feel are best for you.  In turn, those who are not threatened or intimidated by you or your actions, will fully support you. Experience has shown me, no matter where you are (workplace, family, public places, etc), if someone is rude, belligerent or abusive, it is highly likely it is NOT about you, but rather that person and their own insecurities. You can only control what you do in life, and cannot control other people&#8217;s responses. Kudos to you for taking a step towards your own personal healing! I wish you much continued peace and understanding throughout your journey!</p>
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		<title>By: MA</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-118711</link>
		<dc:creator>MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am late getting this but I did want to applaud your courage, Chun-Soon Li to take care of yourself. You ARE Korean, and I am highly offended by the person who said you came over with nothing but your genetics, as if that means you are not &quot;real.&quot;  Who you are is not something you can wash off.  My daughter is Chinese and she is growing up here in the US in a close knit Chinese community. She spends at least 2 hrs most days of the week with Chinese people and on the weekends almost all day. She gets the food, language, customs, discipline, dance.   Yes, my daughter misses her birth parents and has a lot of angst about that (just like any adoptee would- it is a HUGE loss), but to say she cannot grow up Chinese because she was adopted? That is insane.  I am glad you are embracing your heritage! Who has a right to tell you how you should keep and nurture your own culture in yourself. No one.  Good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am late getting this but I did want to applaud your courage, Chun-Soon Li to take care of yourself. You ARE Korean, and I am highly offended by the person who said you came over with nothing but your genetics, as if that means you are not &#8220;real.&#8221;  Who you are is not something you can wash off.  My daughter is Chinese and she is growing up here in the US in a close knit Chinese community. She spends at least 2 hrs most days of the week with Chinese people and on the weekends almost all day. She gets the food, language, customs, discipline, dance.   Yes, my daughter misses her birth parents and has a lot of angst about that (just like any adoptee would- it is a HUGE loss), but to say she cannot grow up Chinese because she was adopted? That is insane.  I am glad you are embracing your heritage! Who has a right to tell you how you should keep and nurture your own culture in yourself. No one.  Good for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-118528</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim - I don&#039;t know whether you are still reading.

I do not agree with your assessment of Chun Soon-li&#039;s writing here.  But I am interested to see your other comments.  You mention that you are &quot;on record&quot;  here and there.  Please could you post a link or way of searching for these?  I am interested in your perspective as spouse of a Chinese person and adoptive parent to a Chinese child.  Perhaps there is more common ground than would be thought from the interactions here.  If you do not want to post maybe you can create a temporary gmail or yahoo mail account then post that here.  Here is mine --   LLLoritemporary      gmail   dot com  

I think there is value in hearing all sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim &#8211; I don&#8217;t know whether you are still reading.</p>
<p>I do not agree with your assessment of Chun Soon-li&#8217;s writing here.  But I am interested to see your other comments.  You mention that you are &#8220;on record&#8221;  here and there.  Please could you post a link or way of searching for these?  I am interested in your perspective as spouse of a Chinese person and adoptive parent to a Chinese child.  Perhaps there is more common ground than would be thought from the interactions here.  If you do not want to post maybe you can create a temporary gmail or yahoo mail account then post that here.  Here is mine &#8212;   LLLoritemporary      gmail   dot com  </p>
<p>I think there is value in hearing all sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel W.</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-118470</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to follow up a bit from my previous comment. There&#039;s also family/social pressure along with the many other reasons I listed which affect topics such as this one. However the family/social pressure factor is pretty much a handful itself. There&#039;s already so many things to worry about and do, let alone self-identity crisis, which is just as important.

IMHO, I&#039;m not too fond of people using the statements of how things were a lot worst before or it could have been worst...like don&#039;t use it too casually. Sort of how our elders nag how the younger people have it so much better than before, more food to eat, luxury,better opportunities, education, etc. That is definantly true and we, the descendents should offer gratitude for the forbearers who pave such a path. However, I&#039;m afraid if these quotes or statements gets thrown around too much, it sort of loses its meaning. People become a bit turn off when nagged too much. Every generation has it&#039;s own unique challenges. There&#039;s little need to push such statements on the young, unless there is an real lesson involved. It might end up limiting their potential rather than actualizing it. This is just a suggestion. 

However, it would be the best to let parents/family (adopted or not)raise their kids in whatever they know best. There&#039;s no business for outsiders to interfere and most people understand the need for this boundary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to follow up a bit from my previous comment. There&#8217;s also family/social pressure along with the many other reasons I listed which affect topics such as this one. However the family/social pressure factor is pretty much a handful itself. There&#8217;s already so many things to worry about and do, let alone self-identity crisis, which is just as important.</p>
<p>IMHO, I&#8217;m not too fond of people using the statements of how things were a lot worst before or it could have been worst&#8230;like don&#8217;t use it too casually. Sort of how our elders nag how the younger people have it so much better than before, more food to eat, luxury,better opportunities, education, etc. That is definantly true and we, the descendents should offer gratitude for the forbearers who pave such a path. However, I&#8217;m afraid if these quotes or statements gets thrown around too much, it sort of loses its meaning. People become a bit turn off when nagged too much. Every generation has it&#8217;s own unique challenges. There&#8217;s little need to push such statements on the young, unless there is an real lesson involved. It might end up limiting their potential rather than actualizing it. This is just a suggestion. </p>
<p>However, it would be the best to let parents/family (adopted or not)raise their kids in whatever they know best. There&#8217;s no business for outsiders to interfere and most people understand the need for this boundary.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel W.</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-118465</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading these comments, I had no idea it would have escalated in such a manner. As much as a lot other commentators hate it, I personally hope Kim can come back and contribute some of his knowledge to this website...a lot of it is very informative and credible. Maybe in this particular topic, it went a bit too personal and produce some feelings of misunderstanding. 

I don&#039;t know much and still have a hard time understanding adoptees or adoptive parents, despite interacting with people of that background for some time. I&#039;m aware that the love is there, the confusion is there, the struggles and warmth are there too...and this applies beyond race,ethnicity,culture, nationality,etc. 

I don&#039;t know how many people believe in religious/spirituality matters, but according to some beliefs, names do have a metaphysical properties/almost superstitious elements to them. The reason why I brought that up is that this story, whatever the real reason(s) may be, reminds me of stories I heard where individuals who also made their journey of self-discovery and &quot;reverted&quot; back to their supposed original identity. It also involved adoptees or adults who discovered they were adopted, thought something was missing and made that journey. Some went ahead to change their names and even demographic identity. According to some beliefs, the birth mother leaves an enternal mark on the soul of her offspring due to the need to carry that child for a period of time. The mother&#039;s identity will always be embedded in the child&#039;s conscience. 

Of course, whatever you all want to believe is up to the individuals. A rational viewpoint is that American society has a lot of work to do in terms of demographic issues. Every society does in some way. The desire to find your roots (even if it&#039;s a bit too rosy for reality) is quite strong for many people in this constantly changing environment with a realitively short history. Provides a sense of security for some. Added with another strong urge to feel special and create a &quot;name&quot; for oneself. Then there&#039;s the issue how some feel that their outsiders in their own homes. Feeling lonely even with many people around. So many factors along with whatever personal issues unique to the individual&#039;s life.  

Overall, a lot to think about and thanks for Chun-soon Li and all the other adoptees, adoptive parents and other commentators for such an interesting topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading these comments, I had no idea it would have escalated in such a manner. As much as a lot other commentators hate it, I personally hope Kim can come back and contribute some of his knowledge to this website&#8230;a lot of it is very informative and credible. Maybe in this particular topic, it went a bit too personal and produce some feelings of misunderstanding. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much and still have a hard time understanding adoptees or adoptive parents, despite interacting with people of that background for some time. I&#8217;m aware that the love is there, the confusion is there, the struggles and warmth are there too&#8230;and this applies beyond race,ethnicity,culture, nationality,etc. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how many people believe in religious/spirituality matters, but according to some beliefs, names do have a metaphysical properties/almost superstitious elements to them. The reason why I brought that up is that this story, whatever the real reason(s) may be, reminds me of stories I heard where individuals who also made their journey of self-discovery and &#8220;reverted&#8221; back to their supposed original identity. It also involved adoptees or adults who discovered they were adopted, thought something was missing and made that journey. Some went ahead to change their names and even demographic identity. According to some beliefs, the birth mother leaves an enternal mark on the soul of her offspring due to the need to carry that child for a period of time. The mother&#8217;s identity will always be embedded in the child&#8217;s conscience. </p>
<p>Of course, whatever you all want to believe is up to the individuals. A rational viewpoint is that American society has a lot of work to do in terms of demographic issues. Every society does in some way. The desire to find your roots (even if it&#8217;s a bit too rosy for reality) is quite strong for many people in this constantly changing environment with a realitively short history. Provides a sense of security for some. Added with another strong urge to feel special and create a &#8220;name&#8221; for oneself. Then there&#8217;s the issue how some feel that their outsiders in their own homes. Feeling lonely even with many people around. So many factors along with whatever personal issues unique to the individual&#8217;s life.  </p>
<p>Overall, a lot to think about and thanks for Chun-soon Li and all the other adoptees, adoptive parents and other commentators for such an interesting topic.</p>
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		<title>By: yoonsblur</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-118455</link>
		<dc:creator>yoonsblur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2902984

If you have not stumbled across this article already--it was just posted on April 1, a few days ago. It discusses the unique financial, social, and political issues alluded to in this forum, that single/unwed mothers face in Korea.</description>
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<p>If you have not stumbled across this article already&#8211;it was just posted on April 1, a few days ago. It discusses the unique financial, social, and political issues alluded to in this forum, that single/unwed mothers face in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharie</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/27/say-my-name/comment-page-2/#comment-118447</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chun-Soon Li,
Thank you for sharing your honest unedited feelings with the world.  I am the adoptive mother to a daughter born in China - at 4 1/2 I can already tell how hard growing up away from where she was born is going to be for her. She asks constantly of her first parents - she asks to meet them and when I tell her I don&#039;t know who they are she says I should ask them their names. SHE asked to learn to speak Chinese. She longs to keep her heritage a part of her. 
I have a HUGE job ahead to help her to feel whole. Reading your feelings as well as those of other adoptees will only assist me.  THANK YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chun-Soon Li,<br />
Thank you for sharing your honest unedited feelings with the world.  I am the adoptive mother to a daughter born in China &#8211; at 4 1/2 I can already tell how hard growing up away from where she was born is going to be for her. She asks constantly of her first parents &#8211; she asks to meet them and when I tell her I don&#8217;t know who they are she says I should ask them their names. SHE asked to learn to speak Chinese. She longs to keep her heritage a part of her.<br />
I have a HUGE job ahead to help her to feel whole. Reading your feelings as well as those of other adoptees will only assist me.  THANK YOU!</p>
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