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	<title>Comments on: Epik High&#8217;s (Bad?) Attempt at Humor</title>
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		<title>By: teeeeenuh</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-129431</link>
		<dc:creator>teeeeenuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi! i&#039;m a chinese-american and i actually thought it was funny, not offensive. i can totally understand someone being offended though. to me, i don&#039;t really think its a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi! i&#39;m a chinese-american and i actually thought it was funny, not offensive. i can totally understand someone being offended though. to me, i don&#39;t really think its a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Red One</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-127395</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Red One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Kevin, but have you seen any international Mandarin/Chinese singers poking fun at Koreans? Wang Leehom? I don&#039;t think so. In fact, if you listen to his album 盖世英雄 (Heroes of Earth) I am actually surprised he chose to sing a song with other Korean singers (Rain).

Heck, I have a lot of Chinese friends (mainlander, ABC, HK, TW, etc.) listening to Korean artists such as Epik High. Their reaction to something like this? Probably awkwardness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Kevin, but have you seen any international Mandarin/Chinese singers poking fun at Koreans? Wang Leehom? I don&#8217;t think so. In fact, if you listen to his album 盖世英雄 (Heroes of Earth) I am actually surprised he chose to sing a song with other Korean singers (Rain).</p>
<p>Heck, I have a lot of Chinese friends (mainlander, ABC, HK, TW, etc.) listening to Korean artists such as Epik High. Their reaction to something like this? Probably awkwardness.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Red One</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-141515</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Red One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Kevin, but have you seen any international Mandarin/Chinese singers poking fun at Koreans? Wang Leehom? I don&#039;t think so. In fact, if you listen to his album 盖世英雄 (Heroes of Earth) I am actually surprised he chose to sing a song with other Korean singers (Rain).

Heck, I have a lot of Chinese friends (mainlander, ABC, HK, TW, etc.) listening to Korean artists such as Epik High. Their reaction to something like this? Probably awkwardness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Kevin, but have you seen any international Mandarin/Chinese singers poking fun at Koreans? Wang Leehom? I don&#8217;t think so. In fact, if you listen to his album 盖世英雄 (Heroes of Earth) I am actually surprised he chose to sing a song with other Korean singers (Rain).</p>
<p>Heck, I have a lot of Chinese friends (mainlander, ABC, HK, TW, etc.) listening to Korean artists such as Epik High. Their reaction to something like this? Probably awkwardness.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-127389</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to see a post from awhile ago still garnering some reads.  While I caution for racial sensitivity amongst 2 groups of East Asians, no way do I or should anyone advocate that such insensitivity is one-sided, or that only one group is to blame.  To say that Chinese do not poke fun at Koreans would be absolutely false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see a post from awhile ago still garnering some reads.  While I caution for racial sensitivity amongst 2 groups of East Asians, no way do I or should anyone advocate that such insensitivity is one-sided, or that only one group is to blame.  To say that Chinese do not poke fun at Koreans would be absolutely false.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-141514</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to see a post from awhile ago still garnering some reads.  While I caution for racial sensitivity amongst 2 groups of East Asians, no way do I or should anyone advocate that such insensitivity is one-sided, or that only one group is to blame.  To say that Chinese do not poke fun at Koreans would be absolutely false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see a post from awhile ago still garnering some reads.  While I caution for racial sensitivity amongst 2 groups of East Asians, no way do I or should anyone advocate that such insensitivity is one-sided, or that only one group is to blame.  To say that Chinese do not poke fun at Koreans would be absolutely false.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Red One</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-127380</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Red One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with what the person above me posted. This isn&#039;t just a joke, if anyone has interacted with Koreans (I am talking about Koreans, not expatriate Koreans) there exist substantial amounts of animosity between the two groups. Just to name an example, Koreans would readily claim aspects of Chinese culture as theirs, ranging from Sun Yat Sen to Confucius to Duan Wu festival.

That is the context through which I see this &#039;joke&#039;. The fact of the matter is, Koreans tend to look down upon Chinese (for various) reasons, and I don&#039;t give a damn if that&#039;s a stereotype, because that is what I see in general, and I have yet to see any existence of a majority in a minority of Koreans who actually respect Chinese.

And for anyone questioning the validity of this remarks, I currently reside in mainland China, and forty percent of the people at my institution are Korean. Need I continue?

The reaction in the mainland is obvious; most people choose to not purchase Korean products (would rather purchase Japanese instead). Same could be said for me, I would rather purchase ANYTHING than Samsung, LG, or any of that crap.

Sun Zi talked about knowing yourself and your enemy and you will win a hundred battles; unfortunately, as much as I try, it is almost impossible to get to this Korean mindset of utter ignorance, from the perspective of a Chinese. Just like it is almost impossible for a United States Marine to delve into the mind of an al-Qaeda terrorist; I am unable to understand the motivations and justifications behind such animosity towards the Chinese in general, of whatever territory and/or nationality.

In the end, I say we return this debt of honor. Can someone please bring MC Jin over here and begin the Korean bashing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with what the person above me posted. This isn&#8217;t just a joke, if anyone has interacted with Koreans (I am talking about Koreans, not expatriate Koreans) there exist substantial amounts of animosity between the two groups. Just to name an example, Koreans would readily claim aspects of Chinese culture as theirs, ranging from Sun Yat Sen to Confucius to Duan Wu festival.</p>
<p>That is the context through which I see this &#8216;joke&#8217;. The fact of the matter is, Koreans tend to look down upon Chinese (for various) reasons, and I don&#8217;t give a damn if that&#8217;s a stereotype, because that is what I see in general, and I have yet to see any existence of a majority in a minority of Koreans who actually respect Chinese.</p>
<p>And for anyone questioning the validity of this remarks, I currently reside in mainland China, and forty percent of the people at my institution are Korean. Need I continue?</p>
<p>The reaction in the mainland is obvious; most people choose to not purchase Korean products (would rather purchase Japanese instead). Same could be said for me, I would rather purchase ANYTHING than Samsung, LG, or any of that crap.</p>
<p>Sun Zi talked about knowing yourself and your enemy and you will win a hundred battles; unfortunately, as much as I try, it is almost impossible to get to this Korean mindset of utter ignorance, from the perspective of a Chinese. Just like it is almost impossible for a United States Marine to delve into the mind of an al-Qaeda terrorist; I am unable to understand the motivations and justifications behind such animosity towards the Chinese in general, of whatever territory and/or nationality.</p>
<p>In the end, I say we return this debt of honor. Can someone please bring MC Jin over here and begin the Korean bashing?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Red One</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/03/30/epik-highs-bad-attempt-at-humor/comment-page-1/#comment-141513</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Red One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with what the person above me posted. This isn&#039;t just a joke, if anyone has interacted with Koreans (I am talking about Koreans, not expatriate Koreans) there exist substantial amounts of animosity between the two groups. Just to name an example, Koreans would readily claim aspects of Chinese culture as theirs, ranging from Sun Yat Sen to Confucius to Duan Wu festival.

That is the context through which I see this &#039;joke&#039;. The fact of the matter is, Koreans tend to look down upon Chinese (for various) reasons, and I don&#039;t give a damn if that&#039;s a stereotype, because that is what I see in general, and I have yet to see any existence of a majority in a minority of Koreans who actually respect Chinese.

And for anyone questioning the validity of this remarks, I currently reside in mainland China, and forty percent of the people at my institution are Korean. Need I continue?

The reaction in the mainland is obvious; most people choose to not purchase Korean products (would rather purchase Japanese instead). Same could be said for me, I would rather purchase ANYTHING than Samsung, LG, or any of that crap.

Sun Zi talked about knowing yourself and your enemy and you will win a hundred battles; unfortunately, as much as I try, it is almost impossible to get to this Korean mindset of utter ignorance, from the perspective of a Chinese. Just like it is almost impossible for a United States Marine to delve into the mind of an al-Qaeda terrorist; I am unable to understand the motivations and justifications behind such animosity towards the Chinese in general, of whatever territory and/or nationality.

In the end, I say we return this debt of honor. Can someone please bring MC Jin over here and begin the Korean bashing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with what the person above me posted. This isn&#8217;t just a joke, if anyone has interacted with Koreans (I am talking about Koreans, not expatriate Koreans) there exist substantial amounts of animosity between the two groups. Just to name an example, Koreans would readily claim aspects of Chinese culture as theirs, ranging from Sun Yat Sen to Confucius to Duan Wu festival.</p>
<p>That is the context through which I see this &#8216;joke&#8217;. The fact of the matter is, Koreans tend to look down upon Chinese (for various) reasons, and I don&#8217;t give a damn if that&#8217;s a stereotype, because that is what I see in general, and I have yet to see any existence of a majority in a minority of Koreans who actually respect Chinese.</p>
<p>And for anyone questioning the validity of this remarks, I currently reside in mainland China, and forty percent of the people at my institution are Korean. Need I continue?</p>
<p>The reaction in the mainland is obvious; most people choose to not purchase Korean products (would rather purchase Japanese instead). Same could be said for me, I would rather purchase ANYTHING than Samsung, LG, or any of that crap.</p>
<p>Sun Zi talked about knowing yourself and your enemy and you will win a hundred battles; unfortunately, as much as I try, it is almost impossible to get to this Korean mindset of utter ignorance, from the perspective of a Chinese. Just like it is almost impossible for a United States Marine to delve into the mind of an al-Qaeda terrorist; I am unable to understand the motivations and justifications behind such animosity towards the Chinese in general, of whatever territory and/or nationality.</p>
<p>In the end, I say we return this debt of honor. Can someone please bring MC Jin over here and begin the Korean bashing?</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even though this article was from a while back, I&#039;m glad to see it here.

As a Chinese-Canadian, when I first listened to this skit I got a gut feeling that something wasn&#039;t quite right. I&#039;m not a prude against racial humor but this wasn&#039;t funny. Usually with humor pieces involving the Chinese accent, it&#039;s non-East Asians making a joke about East Asians. But here we have 2 groups - Koreans and Chinese (both East Asians), and Epik High are clearly throwing the joke. Pretty clear when one group says &quot;Wai&quot; and the other says &quot;Nuguseyo&quot;. I was uncomfortable with the hierarchal thing going on in this skit - with Chinese being pitted at the bottom

but I really love Epik High and their music, so when I first heard this on the album, it was a total dotdotdot moment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even though this article was from a while back, I&#8217;m glad to see it here.</p>
<p>As a Chinese-Canadian, when I first listened to this skit I got a gut feeling that something wasn&#8217;t quite right. I&#8217;m not a prude against racial humor but this wasn&#8217;t funny. Usually with humor pieces involving the Chinese accent, it&#8217;s non-East Asians making a joke about East Asians. But here we have 2 groups &#8211; Koreans and Chinese (both East Asians), and Epik High are clearly throwing the joke. Pretty clear when one group says &#8220;Wai&#8221; and the other says &#8220;Nuguseyo&#8221;. I was uncomfortable with the hierarchal thing going on in this skit &#8211; with Chinese being pitted at the bottom</p>
<p>but I really love Epik High and their music, so when I first heard this on the album, it was a total dotdotdot moment</p>
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