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	<title>Comments on: What Yao Ming Not Dunking Tells Us About Asian Culture</title>
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		<title>By: The Asian persuasion &#171; Your Kid&#8217;s Not Going Pro</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/04/15/what-yao-ming-not-dunking-tells-us-about-asian-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-120284</link>
		<dc:creator>The Asian persuasion &#171; Your Kid&#8217;s Not Going Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8230; One thing, though, is that when there is a tall Chinese kid, he gets referred to as “Yao Ming.” “Yao Ming just got the rebound!” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 8Asians.com &#187; Tall, Short and Segregated Asians: Six Lessons from a Basketball Season</title>
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		<dc:creator>8Asians.com &#187; Tall, Short and Segregated Asians: Six Lessons from a Basketball Season</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One thing, though, is that when there is a tall Chinese kid, he gets referred to as &#8220;Yao Ming.&#8221; &#8220;Yao Ming just got the rebound!&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One thing, though, is that when there is a tall Chinese kid, he gets referred to as &#8220;Yao Ming.&#8221; &#8220;Yao Ming just got the rebound!&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Chung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you read a bias in the New York Times article which was not there.  I read this quote to be complimentary, rather than derogatory.  This community oriented, rather than individualistic, perspective is prevalent in Chinese philosophy, and absent in Western philosophy.

So I think it&#039;s perfectly legitimate to flip the question.  Black (and white) players dunk because they come from a culture (or have been immersed in a culture) which promotes individuality, and glorifies the ego.

Yao&#039;s obviously a team player.  He passes a lot, he doesn&#039;t hog the ball.  But this does not mean he is not aggressive.

I used to have an insecurity about Asian people&#039;s passivity, and would deliberately assert myself to counter the assumption.  And my family&#039;s passive attitude to deliberate provocation used to frustrate me to no end.  But Ed above was right: don’t confuse passivity with good manner, don’t confuse barbaric agression with masculinity.  

Passivity does not mean submission, or politeness.  Often being passive is the smartest thing to do.  Also, sometimes being passive is braver than being aggressive.

I think that these days this difference in cultural attitude is well known and better understood, and most importantly, respected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you read a bias in the New York Times article which was not there.  I read this quote to be complimentary, rather than derogatory.  This community oriented, rather than individualistic, perspective is prevalent in Chinese philosophy, and absent in Western philosophy.</p>
<p>So I think it&#8217;s perfectly legitimate to flip the question.  Black (and white) players dunk because they come from a culture (or have been immersed in a culture) which promotes individuality, and glorifies the ego.</p>
<p>Yao&#8217;s obviously a team player.  He passes a lot, he doesn&#8217;t hog the ball.  But this does not mean he is not aggressive.</p>
<p>I used to have an insecurity about Asian people&#8217;s passivity, and would deliberately assert myself to counter the assumption.  And my family&#8217;s passive attitude to deliberate provocation used to frustrate me to no end.  But Ed above was right: don’t confuse passivity with good manner, don’t confuse barbaric agression with masculinity.  </p>
<p>Passivity does not mean submission, or politeness.  Often being passive is the smartest thing to do.  Also, sometimes being passive is braver than being aggressive.</p>
<p>I think that these days this difference in cultural attitude is well known and better understood, and most importantly, respected.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Chung</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/04/15/what-yao-ming-not-dunking-tells-us-about-asian-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-140864</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you read a bias in the New York Times article which was not there.  I read this quote to be complimentary, rather than derogatory.  This community oriented, rather than individualistic, perspective is prevalent in Chinese philosophy, and absent in Western philosophy.

So I think it&#039;s perfectly legitimate to flip the question.  Black (and white) players dunk because they come from a culture (or have been immersed in a culture) which promotes individuality, and glorifies the ego.

Yao&#039;s obviously a team player.  He passes a lot, he doesn&#039;t hog the ball.  But this does not mean he is not aggressive.

I used to have an insecurity about Asian people&#039;s passivity, and would deliberately assert myself to counter the assumption.  And my family&#039;s passive attitude to deliberate provocation used to frustrate me to no end.  But Ed above was right: don’t confuse passivity with good manner, don’t confuse barbaric agression with masculinity.  

Passivity does not mean submission, or politeness.  Often being passive is the smartest thing to do.  Also, sometimes being passive is braver than being aggressive.

I think that these days this difference in cultural attitude is well known and better understood, and most importantly, respected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you read a bias in the New York Times article which was not there.  I read this quote to be complimentary, rather than derogatory.  This community oriented, rather than individualistic, perspective is prevalent in Chinese philosophy, and absent in Western philosophy.</p>
<p>So I think it&#8217;s perfectly legitimate to flip the question.  Black (and white) players dunk because they come from a culture (or have been immersed in a culture) which promotes individuality, and glorifies the ego.</p>
<p>Yao&#8217;s obviously a team player.  He passes a lot, he doesn&#8217;t hog the ball.  But this does not mean he is not aggressive.</p>
<p>I used to have an insecurity about Asian people&#8217;s passivity, and would deliberately assert myself to counter the assumption.  And my family&#8217;s passive attitude to deliberate provocation used to frustrate me to no end.  But Ed above was right: don’t confuse passivity with good manner, don’t confuse barbaric agression with masculinity.  </p>
<p>Passivity does not mean submission, or politeness.  Often being passive is the smartest thing to do.  Also, sometimes being passive is braver than being aggressive.</p>
<p>I think that these days this difference in cultural attitude is well known and better understood, and most importantly, respected.</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yao did really well in that last game against my own team the Blazers.  He led the team in scoring through the first half, and it was only because he was in foul trouble that he pulled back a bit in the second.  Whenever the ball went up, it seemed like he kept reaching up and grabbing it.  

I don&#039;t follow basketball all that much, but the announcers kept saying how well Yao was doing.  They mentioned him over and over, much more than a lot of the other players.  Yao isn&#039;t physically thick enough to play like Shaq, but overall, I think he does really well.  He&#039;s still among the very best.  And when he draws fouls, unlike Shaq, he can actually put those free throws through the hoop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yao did really well in that last game against my own team the Blazers.  He led the team in scoring through the first half, and it was only because he was in foul trouble that he pulled back a bit in the second.  Whenever the ball went up, it seemed like he kept reaching up and grabbing it.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow basketball all that much, but the announcers kept saying how well Yao was doing.  They mentioned him over and over, much more than a lot of the other players.  Yao isn&#8217;t physically thick enough to play like Shaq, but overall, I think he does really well.  He&#8217;s still among the very best.  And when he draws fouls, unlike Shaq, he can actually put those free throws through the hoop.</p>
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		<title>By: jaehwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaehwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yao did really well in that last game against my own team the Blazers.  He led the team in scoring through the first half, and it was only because he was in foul trouble that he pulled back a bit in the second.  Whenever the ball went up, it seemed like he kept reaching up and grabbing it.  

I don&#039;t follow basketball all that much, but the announcers kept saying how well Yao was doing.  They mentioned him over and over, much more than a lot of the other players.  Yao isn&#039;t physically thick enough to play like Shaq, but overall, I think he does really well.  He&#039;s still among the very best.  And when he draws fouls, unlike Shaq, he can actually put those free throws through the hoop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yao did really well in that last game against my own team the Blazers.  He led the team in scoring through the first half, and it was only because he was in foul trouble that he pulled back a bit in the second.  Whenever the ball went up, it seemed like he kept reaching up and grabbing it.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow basketball all that much, but the announcers kept saying how well Yao was doing.  They mentioned him over and over, much more than a lot of the other players.  Yao isn&#8217;t physically thick enough to play like Shaq, but overall, I think he does really well.  He&#8217;s still among the very best.  And when he draws fouls, unlike Shaq, he can actually put those free throws through the hoop.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ridiculous that when we finally have a good player in the NBA who&#039;s from China, every other Asian American male immediately jumps on his back and try to ride him to some promised land of AA male power/masculinity.  That speaks about the insecurities of Asian American men more than whatever perceived &quot;passiveness&quot; of people from Asia.  Just because certain AA men have self-esteem issues, it doesn&#039;t mean they can just dump it all on Yao Ming and have him fix it for them on the court.  The fact that he&#039;s some 7&#039;6&quot; guy from China who plays good basketball is breaking enough stereotypes already.  Quit hating on the guy simply because he&#039;s not punching the refs or throwing the ball into the stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ridiculous that when we finally have a good player in the NBA who&#8217;s from China, every other Asian American male immediately jumps on his back and try to ride him to some promised land of AA male power/masculinity.  That speaks about the insecurities of Asian American men more than whatever perceived &#8220;passiveness&#8221; of people from Asia.  Just because certain AA men have self-esteem issues, it doesn&#8217;t mean they can just dump it all on Yao Ming and have him fix it for them on the court.  The fact that he&#8217;s some 7&#8217;6&#8243; guy from China who plays good basketball is breaking enough stereotypes already.  Quit hating on the guy simply because he&#8217;s not punching the refs or throwing the ball into the stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ridiculous that when we finally have a good player in the NBA who&#039;s from China, every other Asian American male immediately jumps on his back and try to ride him to some promised land of AA male power/masculinity.  That speaks about the insecurities of Asian American men more than whatever perceived &quot;passiveness&quot; of people from Asia.  Just because certain AA men have self-esteem issues, it doesn&#039;t mean they can just dump it all on Yao Ming and have him fix it for them on the court.  The fact that he&#039;s some 7&#039;6&quot; guy from China who plays good basketball is breaking enough stereotypes already.  Quit hating on the guy simply because he&#039;s not punching the refs or throwing the ball into the stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ridiculous that when we finally have a good player in the NBA who&#8217;s from China, every other Asian American male immediately jumps on his back and try to ride him to some promised land of AA male power/masculinity.  That speaks about the insecurities of Asian American men more than whatever perceived &#8220;passiveness&#8221; of people from Asia.  Just because certain AA men have self-esteem issues, it doesn&#8217;t mean they can just dump it all on Yao Ming and have him fix it for them on the court.  The fact that he&#8217;s some 7&#8217;6&#8243; guy from China who plays good basketball is breaking enough stereotypes already.  Quit hating on the guy simply because he&#8217;s not punching the refs or throwing the ball into the stands.</p>
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