Comments on: Caltech Suicide Victims, Both Asians

By: 8Asians.com » Asian American California Democrats On Health Care Reform

8Asians.com » Asian American California Democrats On Health Care Reform — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:02:58 +0000

[...] for mental health care. 8Asians has discussed hepatitis a few times. We’ve also blogged about recent suicides at Caltech as well depression amongst Asian American teens. The United States has been trying to get health [...]

By: Asian American Student Suicide Rate Alarming; Three Take Own Lives at Caltech Since May « EPICANTHUS

Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:37:49 +0000

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By: ErnieAtLYD

ErnieAtLYD — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:23:20 +0000

As the point of this post has now evolved to something tangential to the purpose and spirit of this blog post, I'm closing the blog post to new comments. However, I want to point out and emphasize the following points:

- The intent of JozJozJoz's post was to respect the two students, and yes, it is a mark of respect to treat these two people as people, who have left information about themselves on the publicly accessible internet - rather than anonymous statistics.
- What some commenters are this thread see as us slandering the person in question comes from a source from the HKSA page, available publicly, and is most likely written by the person himself, in third person, and that is the assumption by readers coming to this blog post. [As other members of HKSA have bios where members write in first person, this backs up the claim.] The intent for including this information is not to be malicious, because if this post WAS malicious in intent, not only would this post be written in a different way, but I wouldn't stand for this as the editor of 8Asians; in fact it's completely the opposite.
- As editor, the community of 8Asians is welcome to agree or disagree with the points in this blog post. This is neither, and I will not be forced by our community to edit content.

If anyone wishes to contact me as editor, I can be reached via the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page. And even with this debate, I truly do want to give condolences to the families and friends of both Jackson and Brian.

By: moye

moye — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:12:57 +0000

Your statements just seem contradictory, as I see it as an unverifiable and unofficial source telling a blog what they should or shouldn't do.

I'm a bit confused about what you expect Caltech authorities to do about a simple post contains no defamatory or illegal information on an independent blog that is not associated with the school at all.

Anyway, good luck to you. I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend. It's a tragic situation that no one should have to go through, and it's sad to see this energy being spent on taking down such a harmless post.

By: jiaqiguo

jiaqiguo — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:36:52 +0000

I don't care what tone of voice the blogger was using or anything. I respect the blogger's intention and efforts, but now as a friend of Jackson's, I beseech you to remove the details because it is not our wish!

By: jiaqiguo

jiaqiguo — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:35:21 +0000

I meant that I am not an official source so how is she supposed to verify my claim. Please think before you post. Anyway, the proper authorities at Caltech have been contacted. I hope the blogger will consider our feelings and remove Jackson's details asap before it turns into a bigger problem. I am speaking on behalf of the friends and family because I was also involved in planning the memorial for Jackson. Please remove details. Now.

By: ErnieAtLYD

ErnieAtLYD — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:32:45 +0000

jiaqiguo: I sympathize for your loss. That said, the information is directly sourced from the LA Times and other publicly accessible sources on the internet, and the post has been edited more clearly to reflect this. -Editor

By: ErnieAtLYD

ErnieAtLYD — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:20:04 +0000

feedbucket: It's presumed – to me, anyway – that the bio is written by himself in third person, and that is the assumption by readers coming to this blog post. It shows he's self-effacing, and a real person. And guess what? That's not a bad thing – because he shows he's a real person – a GOOD person – and not just some countless statistic. That's JozJozJoz's intent, and I am going to defend her for this post.

But I can see how people can misconstrue that, and I want to thank you for pointing that out.

By: moye

moye — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:14:13 +0000

If you can't even verify your own claims, then how can we even believe that you are speaking on behalf of the friends and family of these men?

By: moye

moye — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:07:59 +0000

How insensitive can you be for jumping to conclusions about Joz's intentions for contacting their families? Clearly from the tone of this post, which was to highlight the tragedy of the situation, she wasn't trying to reach out to them out of pure curiosity or just “snooping” to post extra details. Think about it. Wouldn't the tone of her post above be very different, if her whole point was to be a paparazzi or gossip monger?

I applaud her efforts in trying to bring more awareness about these sad deaths, and I'm very sorry that people like you believe that a blog like 8Asians, which strives to give a voice to the Asian Americans, would try to post something detrimental to our own community.