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	<title>Comments on: Three-quarters of Minority Lawyers Quit Within 5 Years</title>
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		<title>By: LindaChan</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/07/24/three-quarters-of-minority-lawyers-quit-within-5-years/comment-page-1/#comment-128505</link>
		<dc:creator>LindaChan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tien--Wow, I hadn&#039;t even thought to look that up. You&#039;re right, that number is astounding and almost suggests minority retention is higher. Still, minorities (particularly females) are reporting problems that Caucasians don&#039;t face. All things being equal, minorities might stay longer than whites. Who knows? But as it stands, a 75% turnover rate is still alarming.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rad--I should&#039;ve clarified--when I referenced Sonia Sotomayor, I was trying to say a non-white female, or female minority. (We could have a much longer discussion on whither and how Jews are/are not a minority. :)) But yes, Democrats have a much more forward vision in terms of selecting minorities and women for high-ranking posts. Obama in particular seems determined to fill every seat he can with Latinas, Asians, women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tien&#8211;Wow, I hadn&#39;t even thought to look that up. You&#39;re right, that number is astounding and almost suggests minority retention is higher. Still, minorities (particularly females) are reporting problems that Caucasians don&#39;t face. All things being equal, minorities might stay longer than whites. Who knows? But as it stands, a 75% turnover rate is still alarming.</p>
<p>rad&#8211;I should&#39;ve clarified&#8211;when I referenced Sonia Sotomayor, I was trying to say a non-white female, or female minority. (We could have a much longer discussion on whither and how Jews are/are not a minority. <img src='http://dz43m3bsp6hck.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) But yes, Democrats have a much more forward vision in terms of selecting minorities and women for high-ranking posts. Obama in particular seems determined to fill every seat he can with Latinas, Asians, women.</p>
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		<title>By: radchaudhry</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/07/24/three-quarters-of-minority-lawyers-quit-within-5-years/comment-page-1/#comment-128504</link>
		<dc:creator>radchaudhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Otherwise, it’s going to be another 111 Supreme Court justices before the next Sonia Sotomayor.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not sure about this statement.  As long as Democrats are in power or at least competitive, this is unlikely judging from recent (or not so recent depending on how you view ~50 years) history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 45 years, no Democratic president has put a single white Protestant or Catholic man or woman on the court.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Six nominees have been sent to Congress by Democrats since 1964: Thurgood Marshall, an African-American, four Jewish nominees—Arthur Goldberg, Abe Fortas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and one Latina, Sonia Sotomayor.  The last time a white Christian male was elevated by Democrats was when JFK put Byron White on in 1962.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Otherwise, it’s going to be another 111 Supreme Court justices before the next Sonia Sotomayor.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#39;m not sure about this statement.  As long as Democrats are in power or at least competitive, this is unlikely judging from recent (or not so recent depending on how you view ~50 years) history.</p>
<p>In 45 years, no Democratic president has put a single white Protestant or Catholic man or woman on the court.</p>
<p>Six nominees have been sent to Congress by Democrats since 1964: Thurgood Marshall, an African-American, four Jewish nominees—Arthur Goldberg, Abe Fortas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and one Latina, Sonia Sotomayor.  The last time a white Christian male was elevated by Democrats was when JFK put Byron White on in 1962.</p>
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		<title>By: tiennguyen</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/07/24/three-quarters-of-minority-lawyers-quit-within-5-years/comment-page-1/#comment-128503</link>
		<dc:creator>tiennguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This study doesn&#039;t mention anything about the &quot;normal&quot; rates of leave, making it completely worthless..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A quick google search found this: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The turnover rate among attorneys at law firms has increased sharply in recent years. According to a study by the NALP Foundation in 2006, an astounding 78% of new associates leave their firms by the end of their 5th year (up from 60% in 2000).&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The #&#039;s used are probably generated differently, so it&#039;s hard to compare the studies directly but this would indicate that female minorities are LESS likely to leave than the general attorney population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study doesn&#39;t mention anything about the &#8220;normal&#8221; rates of leave, making it completely worthless..</p>
<p>A quick google search found this: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The turnover rate among attorneys at law firms has increased sharply in recent years. According to a study by the NALP Foundation in 2006, an astounding 78% of new associates leave their firms by the end of their 5th year (up from 60% in 2000).&#8221;</p>
<p>The #&#39;s used are probably generated differently, so it&#39;s hard to compare the studies directly but this would indicate that female minorities are LESS likely to leave than the general attorney population.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaChan</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/07/24/three-quarters-of-minority-lawyers-quit-within-5-years/comment-page-1/#comment-125359</link>
		<dc:creator>LindaChan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tien--Wow, I hadn&#039;t even thought to look that up. You&#039;re right, that number is astounding and almost suggests minority retention is higher. Still, minorities (particularly females) are reporting problems that Caucasians don&#039;t face. All things being equal, minorities might stay longer than whites. Who knows? But as it stands, a 75% turnover rate is still alarming.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rad--I should&#039;ve clarified--when I referenced Sonia Sotomayor, I was trying to say a non-white female, or female minority. (We could have a much longer discussion on whither and how Jews are/are not a minority. :)) But yes, Democrats have a much more forward vision in terms of selecting minorities and women for high-ranking posts. Obama in particular seems determined to fill every seat he can with Latinas, Asians, women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tien&#8211;Wow, I hadn&#39;t even thought to look that up. You&#39;re right, that number is astounding and almost suggests minority retention is higher. Still, minorities (particularly females) are reporting problems that Caucasians don&#39;t face. All things being equal, minorities might stay longer than whites. Who knows? But as it stands, a 75% turnover rate is still alarming.</p>
<p>rad&#8211;I should&#39;ve clarified&#8211;when I referenced Sonia Sotomayor, I was trying to say a non-white female, or female minority. (We could have a much longer discussion on whither and how Jews are/are not a minority. <img src='http://dz43m3bsp6hck.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) But yes, Democrats have a much more forward vision in terms of selecting minorities and women for high-ranking posts. Obama in particular seems determined to fill every seat he can with Latinas, Asians, women.</p>
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		<title>By: radchaudhry</title>
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		<dc:creator>radchaudhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Otherwise, it’s going to be another 111 Supreme Court justices before the next Sonia Sotomayor.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not sure about this statement.  As long as Democrats are in power or at least competitive, this is unlikely judging from recent (or not so recent depending on how you view ~50 years) history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 45 years, no Democratic president has put a single white Protestant or Catholic man or woman on the court.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Six nominees have been sent to Congress by Democrats since 1964: Thurgood Marshall, an African-American, four Jewish nominees—Arthur Goldberg, Abe Fortas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and one Latina, Sonia Sotomayor.  The last time a white Christian male was elevated by Democrats was when JFK put Byron White on in 1962.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Otherwise, it’s going to be another 111 Supreme Court justices before the next Sonia Sotomayor.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#39;m not sure about this statement.  As long as Democrats are in power or at least competitive, this is unlikely judging from recent (or not so recent depending on how you view ~50 years) history.</p>
<p>In 45 years, no Democratic president has put a single white Protestant or Catholic man or woman on the court.</p>
<p>Six nominees have been sent to Congress by Democrats since 1964: Thurgood Marshall, an African-American, four Jewish nominees—Arthur Goldberg, Abe Fortas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and one Latina, Sonia Sotomayor.  The last time a white Christian male was elevated by Democrats was when JFK put Byron White on in 1962.</p>
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		<title>By: tiennguyen</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2009/07/24/three-quarters-of-minority-lawyers-quit-within-5-years/comment-page-1/#comment-125357</link>
		<dc:creator>tiennguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This study doesn&#039;t mention anything about the &quot;normal&quot; rates of leave, making it completely worthless..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A quick google search found this: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The turnover rate among attorneys at law firms has increased sharply in recent years. According to a study by the NALP Foundation in 2006, an astounding 78% of new associates leave their firms by the end of their 5th year (up from 60% in 2000).&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The #&#039;s used are probably generated differently, so it&#039;s hard to compare the studies directly but this would indicate that female minorities are LESS likely to leave than the general attorney population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study doesn&#39;t mention anything about the &#8220;normal&#8221; rates of leave, making it completely worthless..</p>
<p>A quick google search found this: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jdblissblog.com/attorney_retention.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The turnover rate among attorneys at law firms has increased sharply in recent years. According to a study by the NALP Foundation in 2006, an astounding 78% of new associates leave their firms by the end of their 5th year (up from 60% in 2000).&#8221;</p>
<p>The #&#39;s used are probably generated differently, so it&#39;s hard to compare the studies directly but this would indicate that female minorities are LESS likely to leave than the general attorney population.</p>
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