Comments on: Can Being Asian Prevent Promotions? http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/ A blog for Asian Americans Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:27:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: murphyslaw888 http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-130077 murphyslaw888 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:16:43 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-130077 Consider yourself lucky if you haven't experience any form of oppression. Look at the statistics from this paper:<br><br><a href="http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ZcSLWlxya4cJ:www.ascendleadership.org/DefaultFilePile/Group/SanFranciscoBayArea/Events/2008Speakers/The_Failure_of_Asian_Success.pdf+why+there+are+no+asian+american+executives&cd=24&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ZcSLWlxya4...</a><br><br>I live and work in California's technology industry where Asians make a large percentage of the population. I have jumped from corporation to corporation and have seen very few Pacific Asians (not Indians) even reach middle management. I don't recall any East Asians in upper management at the large corporations that I worked at. For the most part, East Asians are hired and expected to be work horses. I personally come from a top 5 computer science school, graduate with top marks, exceeded performance expectations and have proven leadership. After 8 years, I'm yet to make it into middle management. In my current company, East Asians make up over 20% of the employees, but I know of only 3 East Asian managers: two women and 1 man. Politics are hard to play because there is a lot of silent discrimination. I find many people just aren't interested in befriending an East Asian unless you're an attractive Asian woman. <br><br>Whenever I step up in a group situation at work such as making suggestions, egos starting flaring and irrational criticism follow. East Asians are expected to be submissive subordinates. They're suppose to keep their mouth shut, and just follow orders. It's a very depressing environment to be in for an East Asian if you have any ambition. Consider yourself lucky if you haven't experience any form of oppression. Look at the statistics from this paper:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ZcSLWlxya4…

I live and work in California's technology industry where Asians make a large percentage of the population. I have jumped from corporation to corporation and have seen very few Pacific Asians (not Indians) even reach middle management. I don't recall any East Asians in upper management at the large corporations that I worked at. For the most part, East Asians are hired and expected to be work horses. I personally come from a top 5 computer science school, graduate with top marks, exceeded performance expectations and have proven leadership. After 8 years, I'm yet to make it into middle management. In my current company, East Asians make up over 20% of the employees, but I know of only 3 East Asian managers: two women and 1 man. Politics are hard to play because there is a lot of silent discrimination. I find many people just aren't interested in befriending an East Asian unless you're an attractive Asian woman.

Whenever I step up in a group situation at work such as making suggestions, egos starting flaring and irrational criticism follow. East Asians are expected to be submissive subordinates. They're suppose to keep their mouth shut, and just follow orders. It's a very depressing environment to be in for an East Asian if you have any ambition.

]]> By: Janet Vandenabeele http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-128377 Janet Vandenabeele Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:57:19 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-128377 Seems to me the real issue here is your definition of "promotion." The initial blurb quoted in the blog post, and the study referenced in the SJ Mercury News discuss high-level positions, not just being promoted through the ranks. Having a "ceiling" means a point past which you cannot go unless you are white and male. Maybe the room is getting taller, but there's still an upstairs many of us cannot go.<br><br>(not Asian, but female) Seems to me the real issue here is your definition of “promotion.” The initial blurb quoted in the blog post, and the study referenced in the SJ Mercury News discuss high-level positions, not just being promoted through the ranks. Having a “ceiling” means a point past which you cannot go unless you are white and male. Maybe the room is getting taller, but there's still an upstairs many of us cannot go.

(not Asian, but female)

]]> By: Janet Vandenabeele http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-127330 Janet Vandenabeele Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-127330 Seems to me the real issue here is your definition of "promotion." The initial blurb quoted in the blog post, and the study referenced in the SJ Mercury News discuss high-level positions, not just being promoted through the ranks. Having a "ceiling" means a point past which you cannot go unless you are white and male. Maybe the room is getting taller, but there's still an upstairs many of us cannot go.<br><br>(not Asian, but female) Seems to me the real issue here is your definition of “promotion.” The initial blurb quoted in the blog post, and the study referenced in the SJ Mercury News discuss high-level positions, not just being promoted through the ranks. Having a “ceiling” means a point past which you cannot go unless you are white and male. Maybe the room is getting taller, but there's still an upstairs many of us cannot go.

(not Asian, but female)

]]> By: tiennguyen http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-127214 tiennguyen Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:26:49 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-127214 Ha, well take your pick from any of these..<br><a href="http://www.bored.com/findquotes/cate_845_Stupidity.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bored.com/findquotes/cate_845_Stupid...</a> Ha, well take your pick from any of these..
http://www.bored.com/findquotes/cate_845_Stupid…

]]> By: moye http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-127213 moye Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:20:00 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-127213 Part of me wishes you had found an appropriate quote by some dead white guy to say the say thing. Part of me wishes you had found an appropriate quote by some dead white guy to say the say thing.

]]> By: Discrimination and Politics | LUX.ET.UMBRA http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-127209 Discrimination and Politics | LUX.ET.UMBRA Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:05:02 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-127209 [...] to cry at every single turn about discrimination in the work place. Apparently, this happens to the Asian American community too and I’m sure it does. But to even have a term called the “bamboo ceiling”? I mean [...] [...] to cry at every single turn about discrimination in the work place. Apparently, this happens to the Asian American community too and I’m sure it does. But to even have a term called the “bamboo ceiling”? I mean [...]

]]> By: mxu http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-127206 mxu Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:25:56 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-127206 Do not rely on your own personal experiences to make a definite claim on whether APIs face racial discrimination. The fact that you blanketly deny that it happens at all is very harmful to many - APIs and non-APIs alike. Do not rely on your own personal experiences to make a definite claim on whether APIs face racial discrimination. The fact that you blanketly deny that it happens at all is very harmful to many – APIs and non-APIs alike.

]]> By: tiennguyen http://www.8asians.com/2009/10/24/being-asian-can-prevent-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-127204 tiennguyen Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:55:57 +0000 http://www.8asians.com/?p=3971#comment-127204 This is by far the worst string of replies in internet history. This is by far the worst string of replies in internet history.

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