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	<title>Comments on: Was Dr. Seuss a Racist?</title>
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		<title>By: KarmicButthole</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2010/01/26/was-dr-seuss-a-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-166961</link>
		<dc:creator>KarmicButthole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t in any way condone racism, but I think under the circumstances these things can be contextual. A lot of this thinking may have been a product of the time, which was definitely influenced by fear. Ignorance and fear go hand in hand. Well, maybe I&#039;m just giving him far too much credit, though. The Japanese-American one is especially offensive.How do people feel about separating the artist&#039;s personal life from his work? Bukowski, a well-know misogynist, could write some of the most beautiful and moving poetry. Michael Jackson may or may not be a pedophile, but does that make his music invalid? All of us do great and terrible things, but does one forever mar or negate the other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t in any way condone racism, but I think under the circumstances these things can be contextual. A lot of this thinking may have been a product of the time, which was definitely influenced by fear. Ignorance and fear go hand in hand. Well, maybe I&#8217;m just giving him far too much credit, though. The Japanese-American one is especially offensive.How do people feel about separating the artist&#8217;s personal life from his work? Bukowski, a well-know misogynist, could write some of the most beautiful and moving poetry. Michael Jackson may or may not be a pedophile, but does that make his music invalid? All of us do great and terrible things, but does one forever mar or negate the other?</p>
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		<title>By: KarmicButthole</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2010/01/26/was-dr-seuss-a-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-166960</link>
		<dc:creator>KarmicButthole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a joke, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a joke, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Cocolily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocolily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 07:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well a lot of Asians are racist so...what comes around goes around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well a lot of Asians are racist so&#8230;what comes around goes around.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Seuss Book Club</title>
		<link>http://www.8asians.com/2010/01/26/was-dr-seuss-a-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129911</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Seuss Book Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dr. Seuss is not a racist.  This is just a issue that attempt to destroy the good author&#039;s image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dr. Seuss is not a racist.  This is just a issue that attempt to destroy the good author&#39;s image.</p>
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		<title>By: PerrinW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PerrinW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember in the early 1990s being at a Japanese-American friend&#039;s house for a party of Japanese-American journalists, a number of them being colleagues of mine in the newsroom. I was the only &quot;white&quot; person present. I heard a great many snide jokes and comments made about caucasians. I remember thinking at the time: &quot;Hey, standing right here!&quot; Now I know these same people who worked with me, invited me to the party, etc., liked me personally. But they were blind to their racism. It cuts both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember in the early 1990s being at a Japanese-American friend&#39;s house for a party of Japanese-American journalists, a number of them being colleagues of mine in the newsroom. I was the only &#8220;white&#8221; person present. I heard a great many snide jokes and comments made about caucasians. I remember thinking at the time: &#8220;Hey, standing right here!&#8221; Now I know these same people who worked with me, invited me to the party, etc., liked me personally. But they were blind to their racism. It cuts both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob74</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to excuse any racist cartoon drawn by Dr. Suess -- and from what I know I don&#039;t think he would excuse himself --  but, its difficult to fault someone who was reflecting the attitudes of his time.  It&#039;s not as if he was the prime mover in these attitudes in the US. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It might be a good idea to look at all his cartoons.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Frame.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Fram...&lt;/a&gt;)  Its easy to look back now since the US won, but, I don&#039;t think that was clear at the time.  I&#039;m sure it was a scary time.  Some of that fear was justified, other expressions of that fear clearly wasn&#039;t, and some of that fear was exploited by others who wanted to get rid of the Japanese/Japanese American population from the West Coast for a long time before WWII.   And, Dr. Seuss, not being from the West Coast (he only moved to California after the war) and who probably had little contact with any Japanese/Japanese Americans might not have been aware of the larger social forces driving racism against Japanese Americans on the west coast -- he was probably more the one being influenced than the influencer in this case.  You state &quot;like many people of his day&quot;  But,  did anyone of non-Japanese decent stand up to oppose these attitudes?  Isn&#039;t passively doing nothing in the face of racism if you know its wrong the bigger evil?  If so,  wouldn&#039;t you have to condemn virtually everyone living in the United States during WWII just like you do Dr. Seuss.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I trying not to make a judgement on your ideas nor your decisions on how to raise your children, as it isn&#039;t my place to say one way or the other, and your conclusion is justifiable.  However, there is a larger context involved -- not the &quot;Japanese attacked the US, so how can you blame them,&quot; but a larger history of migration, racism, regionalism, exploitation, fear, and ignorance that led otherwise progressive individuals during WWII such as Dr. Seuss to draw such cartoons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Also, German/German Americans in WWII might not have had it as bad as Japanese/Japanese Americans, anti-German sentiment ran pretty high during World War I. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American#World_War_I_anti-German_sentiment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American#Wo...&lt;/a&gt; for example and, if you haven&#039;t read it, John Dwyer&#039;s War without Mercy talks deeper about the development of anti-Japanese feelings in America and anti-American feelings in Japan and how they were expressed in the media of both countries.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t want to excuse any racist cartoon drawn by Dr. Suess &#8212; and from what I know I don&#39;t think he would excuse himself &#8212;  but, its difficult to fault someone who was reflecting the attitudes of his time.  It&#39;s not as if he was the prime mover in these attitudes in the US. </p>
<p>It might be a good idea to look at all his cartoons.  (<a href="http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Frame.htm" rel="nofollow">http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Fram&#8230;</a>)  Its easy to look back now since the US won, but, I don&#39;t think that was clear at the time.  I&#39;m sure it was a scary time.  Some of that fear was justified, other expressions of that fear clearly wasn&#39;t, and some of that fear was exploited by others who wanted to get rid of the Japanese/Japanese American population from the West Coast for a long time before WWII.   And, Dr. Seuss, not being from the West Coast (he only moved to California after the war) and who probably had little contact with any Japanese/Japanese Americans might not have been aware of the larger social forces driving racism against Japanese Americans on the west coast &#8212; he was probably more the one being influenced than the influencer in this case.  You state &#8220;like many people of his day&#8221;  But,  did anyone of non-Japanese decent stand up to oppose these attitudes?  Isn&#39;t passively doing nothing in the face of racism if you know its wrong the bigger evil?  If so,  wouldn&#39;t you have to condemn virtually everyone living in the United States during WWII just like you do Dr. Seuss.  </p>
<p>I trying not to make a judgement on your ideas nor your decisions on how to raise your children, as it isn&#39;t my place to say one way or the other, and your conclusion is justifiable.  However, there is a larger context involved &#8212; not the &#8220;Japanese attacked the US, so how can you blame them,&#8221; but a larger history of migration, racism, regionalism, exploitation, fear, and ignorance that led otherwise progressive individuals during WWII such as Dr. Seuss to draw such cartoons.</p>
<p>(Also, German/German Americans in WWII might not have had it as bad as Japanese/Japanese Americans, anti-German sentiment ran pretty high during World War I. (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American#World_War_I_anti-German_sentiment" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American#Wo&#8230;</a> for example and, if you haven&#39;t read it, John Dwyer&#39;s War without Mercy talks deeper about the development of anti-Japanese feelings in America and anti-American feelings in Japan and how they were expressed in the media of both countries.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lenoxus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenoxus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m white and knowing about Seuss&#039;s racism makes me very, very sick to the stomach. I do not think it was remotely excusable. No amount of bad actions from the Japanese empire excuses a single piece of the layers of race-focused propaganda produced by our government. (And none of those government folks, or cartoonists like Seuss, seemed to notice the irony that Nazi Germany&#039;s prime evil was a racism writ large — there ain&#039;t really much different between a US anti-Japanese poster and a German anti-Jew poster.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing I do have to say is this: If we had to reject all the art and thought of all past racists, well, we wouldn&#039;t have much left from the past to read. For example, one of my favorite philosophers, David Hume, let his empiricism out the window for the sake of a private racism. TS Eliot was an antisemite. Charles Darwin arguably said some racist things (although he was progressive for his time). And many of those American founding fathers that USans love to quote for their exalting of liberty? Well, we all know they kept slaves in the backyard, and, well, they didn&#039;t exactly pick those slaves based on the content of their character. It&#039;s a stain on them all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it is possible, though difficult, to separate the man&#039;s work from, well, the man&#039;s other work (and by extension, from the man). In all probability, Dr. Seuss&#039;s books, which include some excellent parables against racism, have produced more anti-racist enlightenment in the current generation than his cartoons added to the bigotry of the &quot;Greatest&quot; generation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I personally would never keep his books from kids, I cannot begrudge or fault your decision there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(After reading over what I wrote, I feel bad that my examples of historical racism are more African-America focused, but that&#039;s my education on the subject. When it comes to the history of anti-Asian-Americanism, I don&#039;t know about much more than the WWII stuff, although I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a lot more. I &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; there&#039;s a lot in the present.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m white and knowing about Seuss&#39;s racism makes me very, very sick to the stomach. I do not think it was remotely excusable. No amount of bad actions from the Japanese empire excuses a single piece of the layers of race-focused propaganda produced by our government. (And none of those government folks, or cartoonists like Seuss, seemed to notice the irony that Nazi Germany&#39;s prime evil was a racism writ large — there ain&#39;t really much different between a US anti-Japanese poster and a German anti-Jew poster.)</p>
<p>One thing I do have to say is this: If we had to reject all the art and thought of all past racists, well, we wouldn&#39;t have much left from the past to read. For example, one of my favorite philosophers, David Hume, let his empiricism out the window for the sake of a private racism. TS Eliot was an antisemite. Charles Darwin arguably said some racist things (although he was progressive for his time). And many of those American founding fathers that USans love to quote for their exalting of liberty? Well, we all know they kept slaves in the backyard, and, well, they didn&#39;t exactly pick those slaves based on the content of their character. It&#39;s a stain on them all.</p>
<p>I think it is possible, though difficult, to separate the man&#39;s work from, well, the man&#39;s other work (and by extension, from the man). In all probability, Dr. Seuss&#39;s books, which include some excellent parables against racism, have produced more anti-racist enlightenment in the current generation than his cartoons added to the bigotry of the &#8220;Greatest&#8221; generation.</p>
<p>While I personally would never keep his books from kids, I cannot begrudge or fault your decision there.</p>
<p>(After reading over what I wrote, I feel bad that my examples of historical racism are more African-America focused, but that&#39;s my education on the subject. When it comes to the history of anti-Asian-Americanism, I don&#39;t know about much more than the WWII stuff, although I&#39;m sure there&#39;s a lot more. I <i>know</i> there&#39;s a lot in the present.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Fourhman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Fourhman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a bit in &quot;If I Ran the Zoo&quot; (1950) where Suess talks about a land where &quot;people all wear their eyes on a slant,&quot; and I always skip that paragraph when I read it to my son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s a bit in &#8220;If I Ran the Zoo&#8221; (1950) where Suess talks about a land where &#8220;people all wear their eyes on a slant,&#8221; and I always skip that paragraph when I read it to my son.</p>
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