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Asian American Men Discriminated Against In The Job Market

By Tim | Friday, December 10, 2010 | 6 Comments

wageinequality Asian American Men Discriminated Against In The Job MarketA new study published in the American Sociological Review reveals that Asian American men are discriminated against in the job market, resulting in lower pay for Asian American men compared to similarly qualified white men. The discrepancy in pay varies based on the generation level of the individual. A U.S. born Asian American for example, has on average 8% lower pay in same job function, while a first generation Asian American (one who completed their education overseas) earned 29% less than a comparable white male.

The study also looked at 1.25 and 1.5 generation Asian American males, two terms that were new to me. A 1.25 generation Asian American male is one that earned their highest degree at a U.S. institution but completed their earlier education in their country of origin. A 1.5 generation Asian American male is an individual that came to the U.S. as a child and speaks perfect English. In 1.25 generation Asian American men there was a 14% cut in pay compared to equivalent white males. Strangely enough, only the 1.5 generation Asian American male had earnings parity with white males.

More on income disparity after the jump.

If you’re an observant reader of 8Asians, you might notice a discrepancy between this study and another one we talked about, that led us to say that Asian Men Have the Highest Salary. The difference between this study and the previous one, is that this study normalizes for the actual job being performed, while the previous one took all men, regardless of job held. The obvious conclusion is that Asian American men tend to have jobs that pay more, but they earn less at these higher paying jobs than equivalent white males (with the exception of the 1.5 generation of Asian American men).

I also happened to catch another blog posting this week on The Blasian Narrative that tackled the topic of Asian American households having the highest income levels. The numbers seem to bear out that Asian Americans make more, because the typical Asian American household has the highest income level of all households. But when broken out into individual income figures, Asian American individuals came out well below white individuals. As the article states, it just means Asian American households are larger and have more individuals in each family who are working.

So regardless of how the numbers are spun, it does appear that Asian Americans (with the exception of the 1.5 generation Asian American male), do make less than comparable white Americans. That’s a sad conclusion, showing we still have some distance to go to achieve equality.

On our internal 8Asians mailing list we wondered why a 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation Asian American male would make less than their white counterpart, but a 1.5 generation Asian American male could achieve parity. One suggestion had to do with higher work ethic in the Asian immigrant community which is also mentioned in the linked article from newswise.com. But other writers dismissed this claiming that there shouldn’t be a difference between 1.5 generation and 2nd generation, as the work ethic should still be relatively strong in the 2nd generation. What’s been your experience? Is there a difference between 1.5 and 2nd generation attitudes and work ethic?

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  • mike_le

    Pretty sure I’m beating the odds. Score!

  • yu888

    Generally I think it is easier for gen 1.5 Asian Ams to hold onto their Asian-culture attributes more, including the work ethic while Gen 2 Asian Ams are born and raised in a different environment all together and perhaps have a more diluted sense of these atributes. Only equalizer is the family and their socio-economic backgrounds. Those with more traditional Asian cultural attributes from more challenging backgrounds often work a whole lot harder to make sure their families are taken care of, regardless of generation, but I am certain the rate of dilution is consistant with the generations out form the initial immigrant generation.

  • TienVNguyen

    Having worked at several companies of various sizes and demographics during and after college–and seeing all my peers at other companies, I came to the conclusion that there is a bias against Asians as hard working robots that have no management skills and thus less prone to advancement in the workplace.

    There was a conference in the Bay Area not too long ago that talked about these issues: http://www.naaapsf.org/

    I always knew that the only way to really rise above it all was to form my own company, and at 22 me and a few friends (black and white guy) threw around some ideas that eventually lead to where I am about 4 years later..and I can’t imagine ever looking back and getting a “real” job ever again.

    I think studies like these can be used as a bit of a crux or an excuse to an extent–if Asians would be more proactive and not been seen as workhorses all the time they can easily overcome it..but until then the perception causes the reality, and the reality causes the perception.

  • Krantzstone

    I’m a 1.5 and my work ethic burned out a long time ago. But I came to North America when I was really little, so I’m probably more 2nd gen than 1.5 really.

  • timat8asians

    @Krantzstone As a 1.5 myself who came to the U.S. when I was really young, I’ve come to realize that I do work harder, and cliche as it sounds it really bothered me that my sister who was born in the U.S. could become president of the U.S. and I never could, and maybe that made me work a little harder. But I could easily see that “unattainable” making someone give up and not work at all.

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