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• http://twitter.com/bbczeitgeist bbczeitgeist

  For all the effort AsianAmerican activists make to sell AA pride, its not being bought by your own AA community. Eg, last 11 articles on this site attracted a total of 11 comments, 1 comment per article, my UK blog has approx 400 comments in the last 11 articles. The comedy example shows that whilst Black comedians are supported by Black audiences, Asian audiences don’t support their own, rather typically you see ‘white-loving’ Asians (in the video) going to ‘all white comedy clubs’ to watch White comedians – note there are no Blacks in the audience – Blacks watch Black comedians. Any Chinese person that supports non-Chinese comedians (including Indians such as Russell Peters) deserve the racism that comes their way.

• happyappa

  Despite that your comment is little more than a shameless plug for your blog…

  Comedy does not excuse racism.

  “Asian audiences don’t support their own” – if you look at the lack of
  Asian-Americans in tv, movies, music… It’s the same for comedians. We want to see more, and it’s not for lack of support.

  Don’t generalize and don’t say what race should watch what comedian. I
  don’t support Ken Jeong, and I won’t support someone just because they
  are Asian.

• moye

  I never knew the number of blog comments was a good gauge of community support. How about when you have zero followers on Twitter while 8Asians has over 3K? What does that mean?

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• http://twitter.com/bbczeitgeist bbczeitgeist

  Its not just my followers list, my ‘following’ list is zero too, I’m basically inactive on Twitter.

  I never said commenting was a gauge of community support, its question of effort vs reward. I have interactive readers with strong opinions, whereas you have inactive/passive followers/clickers.

  Consider the following…size of AA population which dwarfs the UK, you have AA academic research depts, you have many AA promoters and activists, the amount of EFFORT you put into it vs the actual REWARD i.e the response, the reality is that your AA community is passively unresponsive to your efforts. You know I’m right, you can address the issue, discuss it with other AA (not with me, I’m not AA, I’m merely an observer across the Atlantic), or passively thumbs down my comments and live in ignorant bliss and admire the numbers of passive inactive lurkers you have. Upto you, I don’t mind, its not my issue, its your issue. You’re trying to educate and create change and promote AA pride among AA, right? Isn’t that what you’re trying to do? It’s not working.

• http://www.facebook.com/rob.graves.121 Rob Graves

  This has got to be one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever read on 8A, but I guess it is a pretty good troll.

  “Any Chinese person that supports non-Chinese comedians (including
  Indians such as Russell Peters) deserve the racism that comes their way.”

  Why stop at comedy? Why not apply the same type of thinking with the food you’re allowed to eat, or the products you are allowed to buy, or the places you’re allowed to visit? Actually, the last one isn’t a bad idea. Please stay in the UK where I’ll hopefully never have to meet someone as ignorant as yourself.

• http://twitter.com/heyitsjohnnyc Johnny C

  Let’s start with where I agree before I go into where I disagree.

  I am inconsolably frustrated when I think of the passiveness and lurking you’ve touched upon. Not as much as the fatuous comments that copy-and-paste attempts at wit and recycled juvenile insults that ignoble people post, but it does make those who participate wonder why we even bother at times. I’ve even got a draft of an article calling for more participation within the community if they want change instead of being afflicted with Bystander Syndrome.

  As a lifelong expat growing up in multiple countries in Asia and North America, hell, I may be critical of aspects of American and Asian American culture, but I’m not going to point and laugh with the facade of Internet impunity like many do. I am critical of all cultures, including my own global nomad/TCK background.

  When the occasional idiot Asian American or Canadian here says that this site doesn’t do its research, articles are boring, or disagrees with a perspective of ONE contributor amongst many, my answer is the same: this is a place where you can contribute and speak your own mind, since it’s not limited to our main pool of writers. But often, they don’t; they just criticize. And to what end? If they are not participating and just being a passive lurker, they have no room to complain. If their participation is only to the extent of belittlement, all that happens is that they look like an ass and nothing changes.

  So here’s what I’m asking you: what is your intention with your comment, as an observer from the other side of the Atlantic? Are you just trying to insult the efforts of a small group here because in comparison to your own, nothing works? Are you proposing some sort of change?

  Personally, I could just as easily piss off to some other part of the world and not give a black damn since I’m an individual before I cling to any cause, schism, community, or institution. And yes, we both agree that participation is important, but where I find your comments to be asinine (your comments, not you as an individual) is that you are dismissing the attempts of those who do put in effort. It’s a thankless job, we could all just say “to hell with it all” and go streaking through the House of Commons with a GoPro camera strapped on instead, but maybe, just maybe, there is something that can be accomplished by individual efforts.

  I could easily talk about the hypocrisy I’ve encountered in the community, especially amongst the social media wannabes who talk about “solidarity”, “pursuing your passion”, and “support for indie efforts” who laugh at my own endeavors when I meet them at the festivals. Believe me, after those experiences at the various film festivals and other events, I would not hesitate to give the middle finger (or the V-sign) to those sods, buy a ticket, and live elsewhere in this world where my friends are or just make new ones. That does nothing though, and it only lets the bastards win and leaves me bitterly watching the sun set in Ibiza pretending that this world doesn’t exist. Boohoo.

  So for those who do make efforts, please don’t dismiss their work as merely something that has proven to be inefficient. There could be better efforts–I’m sure they are out there–, but they’re working with what they have within the context that they know. If it’s not working as well as it has for you, so what? This whole “You put in a lot of effort but nobody cares” perspective is an opinion and observation, but it reads more like a sanctimonious turd belittling an entire group based on one variable: very few comments for ONE site amongst many dedicated to that community. Cheers for your own site’s success, kudos to this site’s endeavors, thanks to all those who participate. The world can happily do without ignoble comments from those who would criticize without putting forth their own suggestions for improvement, however.

  Now: is there something I’m missing or do you need to further clarify?

• moye

  He’s probably too busy counting the number of comments on his blog to respond.

• http://twitter.com/heyitsjohnnyc Johnny C

  I’ll give it another day or two for the response.

  I’ve had my own experience with British Asians (I even dated two British Asian girls before for over a year each). Looking at the blog he is bragging about (she?) and comparing it to 8asians is like another tabloid comparing itself to Mother Jones. I know other sites for Asian Brits, and sorry, I wouldn’t worry too much about that one, because it practically is a tabloid. For those familiar with the scene there, it’s precisely because he/she mentioned: people participate in those blogs since many online resources just aren’t as available as Asian America has, so some people will have to take what they can get; i.e. if they MUST have a newspaper but there’s no New York Times or Daily Bugle, they’ll read the National Enquirer instead.

  Remember when everyone flocked to Yahoo! chat rooms or to Asian Avenue? There.

• mybiasbeatsyourbias

  I am a firm believer you get what you give out of life. I don’t pitty the couple who started this shit. Nor the comedian who lower his own standards to make a point. It doesn’t matter if you’re white,black, Asian or a mixture. Being heckle is just fuck up. But dude don’t stoop lower than them.

• truthspeaker

  8Asians censors, so why bother writing something when you never know when Moye feels like deleting your posts?

• moye

  What did I delete?

• http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

  He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help. – Abraham Lincoln

  Wait, I should probably have quoted someone Asian, lest I be accused of not supporting my community. ;P

• APBrian17

  Really? I’ve been lurking on 8A for quite sometime and I don’t think I’ve seen that kind of censorship. I’ve read some asinine comments, but I haven’t seen any deleted. Worst I’ve seen is a thread getting closed.

• http://www.facebook.com/aasdf.asdfdsasdf Aasdf Asdfdsasdf

  ”
  He should try that with a African American or Latino woman next time, see where that gets him.” Well, he wouldn’t, because he knows things will get ugly with them. Asian/Asian American women, however, will usually let them get away with it. What’s even more pitiful is when Asian-American women are with non-Asian company and they let them say racist slurs to them and other Asians, and only counter with sweetness.

  You stupid girls, that’s ENABLING BEHAVIOR. YOU GIRLS hold all the power with your company. YOU GIRLS can storm off from your white boyfriend who is mocking the vietnamese waiter and make a statement, not give him more sweetness, thinking that’s what he needs to make him stop. It doesn’t, and it won’t, and the only message they will see (because thats what they want to see) is that you’re a powerless bottom feeder alive only by his grace, and that is exactly what he makes you become.

• ausablevalleynews

  We love you Brad you’re becoming big one way or another but mainly in the asian community keep up the good work

• disqus_jEMTY1uJI0

  HE CAN SAY WHAT THE FUCK HE WANTS.. HES A COMEDIAN.. JUS LAUGH..