8 Asians

  • About us
  • Write for 8Asians
  • Podcast
  • Events
Do Asian Women Have The Smallest Vaginas?Do Asian Women Have The Smallest Vaginas?
Hip to be Asian American?Hip to be Asian American?
Report: Asian-American Subgroups Among Nation’s PoorestReport: Asian-American Subgroups Among Nation’s Poorest
12 Year old New York Filipina Cites Cyberbulling in her Suicide Note12 Year old New York Filipina Cites Cyberbulling in her Suicide Note

The Boy Versus Girl Debate

By Tim | Tuesday, December 4, 2012 | 9 Comments

8a 2012 12 04 BabyFeet Flickr babasteve 600x440 The Boy Versus Girl Debate

Anyone familiar with Asian culture already knows about the gender imbalance going on in many Asian countries, that there’s statistically more boys in countries like China and India, than there are girls, where there’s a cultural bias for having boys. So it was rather a surprise when this article from a Korean newspaper Korea JoongAng Daily came across the 8Asians email list, stating that there’s now a preference for baby girls instead of boys in South Korea. It’s so surprising that the first reaction on our mailing list, was to question the authenticity of the report. It turns out 8Asians reported on this trend in South Korea back in 2007, and it’s due to the hard work of the Korean government with media campaigns promoting the benefits of having daughters.

In China, the boy to girl birth ratio is 1.133, in India, 1.12 compared with the rest of the world at 1.07. South Korea has managed to bring down their ratio from a 1.124 in 1975 down to 1.057, almost inline with the global average.

In the past, 8Asians authors have also pointed out that 89% of Indian women opted for abortion after finding out they were carrying a girl and that there was the hope that the attitudes of one Bollywood couple could help sway the cultural preference for boys to girls. But it may take more than one Bollywood couple to get India the results that South Korea has seen. Don’t even get me started on China.

Asking the happy couple whether they want a boy or girl is customary in America, especially just before the mom-to-be goes in for an ultrasound. It’s no different for gay couples, and NBC’s new show “The New Normal” tackled the question of boy versus girl in their latest show, “The XY Factor”. The show tries to paint a picture where the typical male wants their baby to turn out to be a boy (for all the boy bonding events that would happen during childhood), and the typical female wants the baby to turn out to be a girl (for similar parallel reasons). But of course real life isn’t that simple, and there are plenty of women that want boys and plenty of men that want to have little girls.

So I have a little confession to make.

When my husband and I decided to have a baby, my immediate thought was that I was going to have a little boy baby. As a Chinese immigrant son, even growing up in America wasn’t enough to bypass all that cultural programming. I actually looked up ways to increase your chances to have a baby boy. Why am I relaying this story? Because if there were any Chinese person who shouldn’t have been biased to having a boy, it should have been me. I’m liberal, gay, well-educated, raised in America. And yet, like the character David in “The New Normal”, I saw myself teaching my little boy everything I liked to do, and sharing my passions with a mini-me.

So you can imagine the surprise when we got our ultrasound results, and we found out we were having a little girl. It’s a little like grieving, the same way parents do when they find out their child is gay. With the parents of a gay child, their dreams of their child’s wedding and of having grandchildren immediately disappear, and with me, those scenes in my head of a little boy playing with me went up in smoke. My immediate thoughts went to how was I going to be able to relate to a little girl, and how could I protect her from all the threats and crazy people in the world?

But my little girl is seven now, and it’s been the most incredible seven years of my life. I wouldn’t trade the experience I have had with her for anything, not even to have had a little boy instead. That’s not to say I wouldn’t consider having a boy, or would think less of a boy if I were to have another child now. But having a little girl taught me more about myself and about the world than I could have believed, and opened my eyes to what it is to be a female in our society. I look at everything through her eyes now, and that’s a completely new world for me.

I still worry that the world will be harder on her because she’s female, and I worry about how many more predators there are out there who prey on females. I know I’ll worry constantly about her, her entire life, but that’s part of being a parent as well.

If you think your baby should be a boy, I can only feel sorry for you, because you don’t know what you’re missing. Having a girl is going to change your life, and for the better. So consider me one of the converted believers, like the many South Koreans, who now believe it’s just as good, if not better to have a little girl baby.

Flickr credit: babasteve

Thanks for rating this! Now tell the world how you feel - Share this on Twitter and on Facebook.
(Nah, it's cool; just take me back.)
MOODTHINGY
How does this post make you feel?
  • Excited
  • Fascinated
  • Amused
  • Bored
  • Sad
  • Angry

Categories:

FamilyLifestyles
Tweet

NOTE: 8Asians.com is a community, and we thank you for being a part of it. While we welcome and appreciate differences in opinion, if you're rude or you're promoting spam, we have a right to edit or delete your comment. Read our comment policy for more information.

If you see a comment that violates the 8Asians.com comment policy, you may flag the comment by mousing over the comment and clicking "FLAG."

Facebook Comments (Beta)

  • http://www.facebook.com/tinabot Tina Tsai

    I wonder what the situation is like in Taiwan right now since they have the lowest birthrate in the world. Whenever I say that, everyone responds “Lower than Japan?” Yes, lower than Japan. SK is smart to promote girls. More girls means most likely more babies, higher birthrate, and a sustainable nation. All I know is 3 decades ago, when I was born in Taiwan, I was named “Ting” as in stop having girls. My brother got the name I would have got if I was a boy, “Bing”, which means scholar warrior. Whatever. At least Tina sounds a lot better than Bina. I wouldn’t put it past the immigration official who gave me my English name Tina to name me Bina for fun.

  • better than u

    *yawn* another Taiwanese better than Chinese better than you non-liberal non-gay smug superiority article from 8Asians

  • timat8asians

    Huh? Taiwanese isn’t even mentioned in the article. But now that you bring it up the ratio in Taiwan is 1.09. So yes the rate is better than China, but still needs help to be as good as South Korea.

  • better than u

    it is in reference to everything else your smug Taiwanese is better than the mainlanders with your condescending “Don’t even get me started on China” that’s just typical of your own racist mentality

  • timat8asians

    The “Don’t even get me started on China” is in reference to the fact it has the highest boy to girl ratio of any nation, and therefore has the farthest to go to correct the situation. I don’t see how that’s condescending. BTW, I maybe from Taiwan, but 3/4 of my roots are firmly from Fuzhou, so I’m about as Chinese as you can get.

  • timat8asians

    The “Don’t even get me started on China” refers to the fact that China has highest boy to girl ratio, and therefore has the longest to go in correcting this situation. As for me, half my family still lives in China, specifically Fuzhou. My own dad did not get to see his brother for forty years. Most of my roots are from mainland China, and I do consider myself Chinese first.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ahmed-Sanchez-De-La-Cruz-Kim/58700922 Ahmed Sanchez De La Cruz Kim

    I heard about the low birth rate in Taiwan from people and news channels.
    From what I’ve heard, I don’t know if the general population is taking this serious or not. A lot of young and middle age Taiwanese are still putting off having kids and having more immigrants seem to be mixed on people. I’ve met quite a few good Taiwanese folks who welcome a solution but if the overall population isn’t doing much, then it’s hard to say how the future will be for those islanders.

  • xolang

    it’s interesting that Asia is being associated with son-preference because that’s not the case in my country of origin, which is the 3rd most populous country in Asia and the only one in Eurasia that crosses the equator.

    anyway, thank you for the beautiful and eye-opening article. (-:

  • timat8asians

    Yes, it’s bad to lump all Asian countries together, since it’s obvious they’re not all going to be the same. Indonesia does indeed have a 1.07 boy to girl ratio, right in line with the world average. But Indonesia only makes up 5.8% of the Asian population. While China, India, Pakistan together make up over 66% of the Asian population. So definitely a large majority of Asia has this problem.

 
Google
Custom Search
Advertise on 8Asians
Recent Posts
  • 12 Year old New York Filipina Cites Cyberbulling in her Suicide Note
  • Anime Review: Bamboo Blade
  • The Guillotines: Film Review
  • Anime Review: Psycho-Pass
  • Giveaway: ‘Man of Steel’ Prize Package
  • Report: Asian-American Subgroups Among Nation’s Poorest
  • Rurouni Kenshin Reboot
Recent Comments
  • zdrav: Unless you think all gay men wear rainbow short shorts, have big moustaches, and walk in high heels or something, there's no way to tell... – Asian American Dad: Is Your Daughter Adopted?
  • timat8asians: The ones who know I'm gay don't even ask if she's adopted. It's only the ones who don't know I'm gay that ask, generally complete... – Asian American Dad: Is Your Daughter Adopted?
  • gwumpycat: You're gay and you have a kid. Of course people are going to assume that your kid is adopted. I don't get the outrage here. – Asian American Dad: Is Your Daughter Adopted?
  • gwumpycat: If you want to know more about angemon, google "David Futrelle" - that's his real name. – Mark Twain - Asian American Activist
  • gwumpycat: I noticed the same thing. If you Google "angemon3690" you can find his Reddit account, which links to his blog. What a douche. – Mark Twain - Asian American Activist
  • Confuse_Us: Yes, everyone is a potential customer - even minorities with much less spending power. – Report: Asian-American Subgroups Among Nation’s Poorest

APA Events

  • Feb 21: (San Jose, CA) New Stories from the Edge of Asia: This/That
  • Apr 26: (New York, NY) Front Row: Chinese American Designers
  • May 9: (Los Angeles, CA) East West Players presents CHESS
  • Jun 6: (San Jose, CA) Questions from the Sky: New work from Hung Liu
  • Jun 19: (Aptos, CA) LYF Camp 2013: “Choose Your Own Adventure”
  • Jun 23: (San Jose, CA) San Jose Taiko Public Workshop
  • Jun 29: (Los Angeles, CA) Makoto Taiko Annual Concert
  • Jul 13: (San Jose, CA) San Jose Obon Festival 2013
Add Your Event
www.8asians.com

Staff and Contributors

  • Editors
  • Jocelyn "Joz" Wang

    Editor-in-chief/CEO
  • Moye Ishimoto

    Editor-at-large
  • Contributors
  • Tina Tsai

    LATEST POST: Anime Review: Bamboo Blade
  • Koji Steven Sakai

    LATEST POST: Hip to be Asian American?
  • Tim Chiu

    LATEST POST: Report: Asian-American Subgroups Among Nation’s Poorest
  • akrypti

    LATEST POST: Meet the 8Asians: Shako
  • Xxxtine Miguel

    LATEST POST: The Guillotines: Film Review
  • Jeff S.

    LATEST POST: 12 Year old New York Filipina Cites Cyberbulling in her Suicide Note
  • Shako Liu

    LATEST POST: Letter From Pyongyang: More Like A Home Video
  • Mitchell Dwyer

    LATEST POST: Film Review: ‘Masquerade’ (2012)
View all Authors

Other Links

  • Get your very own 8Asians merchandise here!
Advertise | Contact Us | Twitter | Facebook | Tumblr | Privacy Policy