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• bbao

  Ai Weiwei is a traitor to his nation and a traitor to his race.

  No, I’m not ashamed of saying it. I would spit on his face if he ever came here for an ‘art’ show.

  He is nothing more than a terrible artist looking for attention by complaining about every tiny little thing to make China look worse than it is. The more you promote him, the more western liberal thought infiltrates China and the East. Our nationalism is STRENGTH. We can improve ourselves without being held hostage by guilt. Leave that for the whites.

  Whatever social problem AWW keeps coming up with will be either solved or discussed after the economy and geopolitical strength of China reaches a respectable level, as in, surpassing the USA. Any sort of social justice whinging prior to that should be disregarded as borderline treason.

  Tina, I know TSAI is a Taiwanese last name. You might think yourself progressive and superior looking back down at mainland China, but you are Han blooded and you will always be Han Chinese. It is in your racial interest to see China rise to the top of the world. If you want to perpetuate a culture of complaints and victimhood over our traditional culture of competition and objectivity, if you want to join the feel-good liberal ethnic minority crowd, do it in America. Stay out of East Asian politics, and keep your whitethink far away from us.

• LTE2

  “Any sort of social justice whinging prior to that should be disregarded as borderline treason.”
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  “It is in your racial interest to see China rise to the top”
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  This sort of thinking is always a good prelude to war. For myself, I am pleased to see Tina is concerned, not because she is Chinese, but because it is a shared American value.
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  I will speak for myself, if this view upsets the PROC… good! No, great!

• http://twitter.com/heyitsjohnnyc Johnny C

  Tina: Thanks for sharing this, I love Ai WeiWei’s art and controversy has been what put artists and art as the vanguard of social change. Keep at it!

  LTE2: It is a shared American value and a shared human value, and I agree with you that if it upsets people’s clinging to nationalism, then yes: GREAT!

  As for fighting “western liberal thought” and promoting Han nationalism, I am reminded of a war that happened not too long ago in an attempt to be the dominant Pacific power with its people as the superior masters over the rest of the region using that same kind of rationalization. Not that China is doing that, beyond imposing itself in the areas disputed by its neighbors like the Philippines, Vietnam, Japan, Malaysia, and Korea, but who knows–they’re rocks in the Pacific Ocean which maybe have a few resources and MIGHT have some strategic importance, or perhaps a symbolic act of Pacific hegemony. Nationalism? Willing to accept absurd things in the name of giving people something to be proud of while dismissing any sort of malarkey that makes that perfect image look like a stain on their uniform.

  China’s a great country and civilization, but it’s not perfect, and no other great country can ever claim to be the best or perfect, and they certainly won’t ever get any closer by obscuring their own failures that the artists dare to say–which is why some might argue that Ai WeiWei is a greater nationalist for wanting his country to be better! Or as the Americans say: “Dissent is patriotic”

• http://www.facebook.com/tinabot Tina Tsai

  Uh-oh, we’re bringing blood into this. How far back shall we trace my blood? To China? To India? To Middle East? To Africa? Back to the Americas? To the primordial soup where the first proteins randomly formed in a strike of lightning? To the first drop of water brought to Earth in a celestial ball of fire? Wow, so complicated.

  How much Han Chinese do I genetically have to be to be considered Han Chinese? What if I have a little Dutch DNA in me (possible but unconfirmed)? Some Mongolian (highly likely)? What if my DNA is purely Han Chinese but my flesh and bones have been built with California grown steak and eggs? Then is only my DNA Han Chinese and not my cytoplasm or endoplasmic reticulum or my hemoglobin? Since my protein engine RNA is a half copy of my DNA, can it be considered partly Han Chinese or sub-Han Chinese?

  What about the 98% of my DNA that is exactly like a chimpanzee’s DNA? Is that part Han Chinese or it it the 2% that makes me distinctly human? Does that mean I’m only 2% Han Chinese then?

  Hmm, that actually got me thinking, at what exact moment in the biological/sociological/anthropological/genealogical history of humanity and the world did the Han Chinese come into existence? Now that’s an interesting thesis question.

  Don’t even know where to begin with all the non-human microorganisms living inside and on me. Their DNA actually outweighs mine. Maybe they need to form sub-racial commune identities.

  I yam what I yam.

• http://www.facebook.com/tinabot Tina Tsai

  My racial interest indeed ^_^ Too bad I’m a counterfeit Asian.

• http://www.facebook.com/tinabot Tina Tsai

  I’d like to see one of Ai Wei Wei’s exhibits. In the documentary, they highlight a few I would love to see in person:

  1) backpacks spelling out the memory of a dead child victim of the Sichuan earthquake.

  2) the straightened metal taken from the ruins of schools that collapsed on the many students

  3) the list of the 5000+ dead students

  4) (my favorite so far) the millions of porcelain sunflower seeds.

  That last one was the most powerful one to me because when I saw it, I felt it represented the beauty and diversity of humanity just waiting to burst forth and bloom.

  That said, I kind of got the sense from the documentary that I wouldn’t like AWW if I met him in person. ^O^

• http://twitter.com/heyitsjohnnyc Johnny C

  I’ve found most of the artistic geniuses to always be on the verge of insanity, but I suppose that that’s the nature of art itself because of the level of imagination that’s required to pull into that primal domain! On the other hand, there is also a fine line between insanity and enlightenment

• bbao

  Save that cute act for whites.

  Your DNA or ancestry is irrelevant. One is Han if he/she identifies as such, submits to Han culture, Han history, and has no other identity to speak of. If you don’t want to identify as Han than just come out and say that. I’ll know who to ignore.

  No one is talking about going on an imperialist rampage across the Pacific. The fact that you people jump to such hyperbole is exactly why Han nationalism is needed in all its children, at home and abroad.

• http://twitter.com/heyitsjohnnyc Johnny C

  And yet your whole tirade was that Tina should be obligated SOLELY due to her race to unquestioningly cheer for China’s rise to dominance. Under that logic, it sounds a lot like you might also say the Japanese-Americans were obligated to cheer for Imperial Japan’s victory in WWII.

  I didn’t say China was going on an imperialist rampage. I just said that those attitudes of blind ultranationalism are all the same. If you think China has rights to all the lands it’s claiming from the Paracels to the Spratlys and all of the Southeast Asia Sea (affectionately called South China Sea), that’s the same as saying the front, public sidewalk is now your territory and then all the way into my front yard is now yours historically and rightfully.

  I have a cure for all people afflicted with that disease known as blind stupidity, which is usually a symptom common to ultranationalism. Take a couple of sea urchins and place one in the palm of each hand. To derive maximum enjoyment, squeeze. In severe cases, they should be administered anally.

  With fondness and affection, I remain, quite gracefully, unimpressed with your vociferous and vile vituperation.

• http://www.facebook.com/tinabot Tina Tsai

  “…but you are Han blooded and you will always be Han Chinese.”
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  ” One is Han if he/she identifies as such, submits to Han culture, Han history, and has no other identity to speak of.”

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  Wait, so I will always be Han blooded and Han Chinese until I don’t identify as such.

  Yay, I’m good at math!