• Tony Pham

    Hi Jeff,

    I think you bring up an important issue, but missing an integral part of the overall picture. The overwhelming majority of the Asian-American population is still settling in to the U.S. mainstream. That’s talking about immigrant parents, immigrant children, immigrant college students, and first generation US born aged between 20-26 just to give a rough estimate. But my perspective is coming from the South Bay Area and Davis, CA areas, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

    What I’m saying is that the ethnic groups that comprise Asian-America still have strong roots in their ethnic identities and almost always have a strong sense of community. These types of expatriates typically congregate together. I feel like the college age generation picks up on this behavior unknowingly and end up forming groups based on this shared background.

    I think we’re living in a time, even in diverse communities, when people are still extremely race/ethnicity aware. That’s to say there’s still a sense of “otherness” regardless of a shared American experience. People are still looking at each other like, “You’re those people”, so it’s not all too surprising that “those people” are going to stick together.


    P.S. I noticed I used the word “still” several times in this response. That’s because I’m optimistic things will be different for the better in the future.

  • Baakus

    Non-Asians complain about so-called self-segregating Asians, but honestly, would those people welcome Asians into their social circles with open arms? And if so, would those Asians have the same status within those circles as they would in their Asian circles?

    Asians, especially Asian guys, don’t want to leave their in-groups if it means they’ll have to be on the bottom rung of the social ladder in non-Asian groups. Essentially, a lot of these non-Asians want Asians to be their bootlickers, desperate to seek approval from them.

    That being said, I think more Asians should be willing to venture outside their group and dominate other social circles. Especially the guys. If you’re blessed to be a good-looking and sociable Asian guy, go out there and start busting some stereotypes. Even if you’re not, go out there instead of staying in your in-group and sending the terrible message that hanging around Asians is a thing of last resort.

  • edc_74

    Multi-culturalism will fail as long as in-equality and imbalance exist. That means not having a racial/cultural hierarchy or hegemony of any kind. Impossible really.

  • J Mooney

    I think it’s funny that Filipinos, who cannot even agree amongst themselves to self-identify as Asian or Pacific Islander or Hispanic, are the ones the most critical of the current state of Asian American pop-culture.

    Filipinos are obviously not going to fit into modern Asian American stereotypes because they are not fully Asian. They are a very mixed group, both ethnically and culturally.

  • Rorschach

    i see Koreans also hanging out in packs, whats up with that?

  • Baakus

    If you’re talking about internationals, Korean social circles have a pretty elaborate social system (the “sunbae-hoobae” relationships) that most likely wouldn’t work with outsiders. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

  • Heo Hak

    Maybe it is because white society is very racist against East Asian Males, so many East Asian Males with pride and dignity self segregate and only hang out with other Asians or international students? Meanwhile, I see tons of stereotypical asian girl white guy pairings on campus. Those Asian girls obviously don’t hang out with Asians.

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