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Source: New York Times: A basketball tournament in Columbus Park drew spectators, but many recent Chinese immigrants discourage their children from playing sports.
If I grew up in China, I would have been cool. But I was born-and-raised in the United States, and being smart and studying hard is considered uncool (and has even been termed to be acting Asian). With the Olympics being in Beijing, there have been a plethora of articles and news stories on China. The Wall Street Journal reported earlier in the week an interesting story on “In China, Jocks Don’t Rule School; But the Smart Kids, They’re Cool,” which compares and contrasts how sports and athletics are valued both in China and in the U.S.:
“Like most Chinese high schools, No. 19 has no sports teams and no gymnasium…China’s elite young athletes may be winning a lot of medals at the Olympics. But in China, organized sports still aren’t really something for regular kids. Less than 3% of Chinese secondary-school students attend schools with sports teams. Children with exceptional athletic prowess or physical attributes are pulled out of ordinary schools early on and sent to the special academies that train the country’s sporting elite. That poses a big challenge for sporting-goods companies such as Nike Inc. and Adidas AG. Both are looking to China and its 1.3 billion people to drive sales growth and both have set out to transform Chinese youth sports… That is the opposite of the situation in many suburban U.S. communities, where children start playing organized sports such as soccer and tee ball at an early age. Many U.S. high schools face criticism for devoting too much attention and resources to sports programs and shortchanging academics or other extracurricular activities such as music and art.”
It is almost a right of passage in America for a boy or girl to play soccer, little league baseball or softball, let alone compete in team sports in high school. To be honest, I have to agree with the criticism that sports and athletics are over-emphasized in the U.S., much more so than academics I think in some regions (Texas and “Friday Night Lights” comes to mind or “Hoop Dreams“). I mean, take a look at college sports today – especially football and basketball – they are *industries*. (Being somewhat of a hypocrite – being an alum, I am a big Blue Devils basketball fan.)
Funny, as I was thinking of posting this blog entry, I came across The New York Times’ sorta-version of this story, “Among Chinese-Americans, a Split on Sports,” which captured some of my very thoughts:
“One view, particularly common among first-generation, working-class Chinese-Americans, maintains that sports are an unnecessary impediment to academic and professional achievement, according to interviews with Chinese-American athletes, students, educators and community leaders in New York. An opposite view, typically held by more educated parents or those who have become more assimilated into American culture because they have been in the United States at least one generation, promotes sports as an integral part of a child’s maturation… While some members of other ethnic groups have embraced sports as a way out of poverty, Asian-Americans, for the most part, have not, said Peter Kwong, a professor of Asian-American studies and urban affairs and planning at Hunter College. “Using physical strength to make a living is not respected; it’s a Confucian ideal,” he said. “You’re wasting your mind. Using your hands is just not a career.”
I understand the economic and cultural divide in attitudes between first generation and second generation Chinese-Americans. But I think, even amongst Taiwanese-American and Asian American kids overall, I don’t think that sports (or exercise in general) are generally promoted by their parents. (Maybe this is a cultural thing – just as it is in China).
That certainly was the case for me. My parents never encouraged me to participate in any organized sports or to exercise. I thought sports were for dumb jocks and took too much time away from studying and other extracurricular activities (hey, I was a geek – president of the chess team, involved in Key Club, and model United Nations). I must admit, I did play one season flag football, but mostly I recall because my other (white) friends made me. (Well, I say white friends – but there were like only 3 other Asian Americans in my graduating class of 273).
We all probably know of some high school athlete where we grew up who got into and went to a college who probably wasn’t as academically qualified, but go in because he or she was a star athlete. In some sense, I think Asian Americans have been at a disadvantage in college admissions for not being as active and excelling in athletics.
According to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (latest 2002 data), Asian Americans are less than 1% of all students participating in college sports (compared to 9 percent of all black students, 3.4 percent of whites and 1.9 percent of Hispanics.) I don’t think this shocks anyone. I wonder if Asian Americans who compete athletically in high school are considered affirmative action candidates when applying to college?
While growing up, I have to say I was a bit naive to think that organized sports was useless. I do wish while growing up I had the habits of exercising daily , and as I have grown older, I do think there is a lot to be learned on the playing field – like teamwork, competition, leadership, training, etc.
The chances of a Chinese being an Olympic level or professional athlete are slim. Same in the United States. If you’re a poor kid in China (and out of the 1.3 billion Chinese, most *are* poor), the best chances for a better future is an education, not trying to be an Olympic of professional athlete. But I’m all for regular exercise and certainly a better balance in both China and the United States, on studying and exercising. Maybe being smart or studying hard in the U.S. will be cool one day… but I wouldn’t hold my breath!
My last possible Olympic ambitions rest on a semi-serious thought based on a fellow Taiwanese-American friend’s thought of trying to represent Taiwan (“Chinese Taipei”) in a Winter Olympics for curling (yes, you read that right – curling). First, my friend and I need to learn how to get Taiwanese dual citizenship and second, try to get Taiwan to have an officially supported curling club /team… and finally, train…
On a related note, this evening on NBC Evening News, Tom Brokaw does a report on competition between China and the U.S. – specifically in education focusing on math and science, and compare what Chinese and American students study (guess which group studies more math and science and studies longer…)
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and no. I do not play tennis or badminton or pingpong, I don't like them at all.
and no. I do not play tennis or badminton or pingpong, I don't like them at all.
I don't think it's true at all. Being Chinese myself, in fact, grew up in China, my parents have always stressed the importance of sports, not for the sake of college application but for my own fitness. Student athletes in China are definitely the most popular crowd in school. I mean, come on, athletes are just that much better looking and in better shape, I think it's something people would naturally pursue? rather than having their parents forced them to? but I do admit, my parents being college athletes back in the days may have had some influence on me.
I don't think it's true at all. Being Chinese myself, in fact, grew up in China, my parents have always stressed the importance of sports, not for the sake of college application but for my own fitness. Student athletes in China are definitely the most popular crowd in school. I mean, come on, athletes are just that much better looking and in better shape, I think it's something people would naturally pursue? rather than having their parents forced them to? but I do admit, my parents being college athletes back in the days may have had some influence on me.
When I was in high school, the "typical" Asian sports in high school were tennis and badminton. A fair number of kids like me did wrestling, as size was not a factor as there were weight divisions.
My sense these days is that Asian American students and their parents know the deal with athletics and the general "roundedness" needed for college applications, as Grace stated. For kids applying to selective high schools, they will even join middle school teams to make their applications look better. I remember talking to a fellow middle school volleyball coach who was rather disgusted with the number of students (mostly Asian Americans) who joined his volleyball team in the 8th grade in order to look better on their high school applications. Life can be rather competitive here in Silicon Valley.
At high schools with highly competitive sports programs, I see a lot of the Asian Americans kids gravitating toward no cut sports like cross country, swimming, and track, where size and height are less of a factor. In volleyball, the Asian American kids will often be liberos/defensive specialists, where being quick and low to the ground are an advantage. I see more and more Asian American parents starting their kids earlier in sports so that they would do better, presumably to better their chances into getting into better schools, both high school and college.
The American system for youth sports is highly flawed. John, you mentioned getting habits of daily exercise from organized youth sports, but for the vast majority of young people, that doesn't happen. By the time kids go to high school, most youths drop out. High school sports often end up with a small number of athletes playing who are watched and worshipped by much larger numbers of kids who don't do anything exercise-wise (note that PE requirements are often the first thing cut when it comes to do budget trimming). I like one statement about football I heard - 22 people desperately in need of rest watched by 22000 desperately in need of exercise! This is a bad thing given the general health problems of Americans, particularly in regards to obesity.
I could go on and on about the problems with youth sports and how I see Asian Americans playing in that space (pun intended), but that is a subject for another day.
When I was in high school, the "typical" Asian sports in high school were tennis and badminton. A fair number of kids like me did wrestling, as size was not a factor as there were weight divisions.
My sense these days is that Asian American students and their parents know the deal with athletics and the general "roundedness" needed for college applications, as Grace stated. For kids applying to selective high schools, they will even join middle school teams to make their applications look better. I remember talking to a fellow middle school volleyball coach who was rather disgusted with the number of students (mostly Asian Americans) who joined his volleyball team in the 8th grade in order to look better on their high school applications. Life can be rather competitive here in Silicon Valley.
At high schools with highly competitive sports programs, I see a lot of the Asian Americans kids gravitating toward no cut sports like cross country, swimming, and track, where size and height are less of a factor. In volleyball, the Asian American kids will often be liberos/defensive specialists, where being quick and low to the ground are an advantage. I see more and more Asian American parents starting their kids earlier in sports so that they would do better, presumably to better their chances into getting into better schools, both high school and college.
The American system for youth sports is highly flawed. John, you mentioned getting habits of daily exercise from organized youth sports, but for the vast majority of young people, that doesn't happen. By the time kids go to high school, most youths drop out. High school sports often end up with a small number of athletes playing who are watched and worshipped by much larger numbers of kids who don't do anything exercise-wise (note that PE requirements are often the first thing cut when it comes to do budget trimming). I like one statement about football I heard - 22 people desperately in need of rest watched by 22000 desperately in need of exercise! This is a bad thing given the general health problems of Americans, particularly in regards to obesity.
I could go on and on about the problems with youth sports and how I see Asian Americans playing in that space (pun intended), but that is a subject for another day.
Well, I played table tennis mostly for fun, in the basement, against my brother. As for tennis - nope, never played. Badminton - not really.
My brother I think did cross country and field & track when I was off in college I believe, but I think he did it instead of my parents pushing him.
Well, I played table tennis mostly for fun, in the basement, against my brother. As for tennis - nope, never played. Badminton - not really.
My brother I think did cross country and field & track when I was off in college I believe, but I think he did it instead of my parents pushing him.
Really John?
Your parents never pushed you to play the classical Taiwanese sports (tennis, badminton, and ping-pong)?
Every Taiwanese-American I've met has at least played one of the three, IF not all three.
As with Grace, my parents told me to join a sport in high school just to make me more well-rounded for my college apps (I took up track). And just like her, once I got into a top college, all the pressure shifted to getting good grades.
Really John?
Your parents never pushed you to play the classical Taiwanese sports (tennis, badminton, and ping-pong)?
Every Taiwanese-American I've met has at least played one of the three, IF not all three.
As with Grace, my parents told me to join a sport in high school just to make me more well-rounded for my college apps (I took up track). And just like her, once I got into a top college, all the pressure shifted to getting good grades.
Oh my parents pushed into sports and the arts in addition to academics, so I could stand out from all the other Asian people applying to college. But when I got to college, I was told to drop everything except studying, because med schools don't care if you're well-rounded. They only care about test scores and grades. Well, that sounded really boring and miserable, so I did everything but study. Go grade inflation!
Oh my parents pushed into sports and the arts in addition to academics, so I could stand out from all the other Asian people applying to college. But when I got to college, I was told to drop everything except studying, because med schools don't care if you're well-rounded. They only care about test scores and grades. Well, that sounded really boring and miserable, so I did everything but study. Go grade inflation!
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