Are APA Students Not Checking “Asian” On College Applications?

By Ernie | Monday, December 5, 2011 | 9 Comments

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Via Yahoo!: “For years, many Asian-Americans have been convinced that it’s harder for them to gain admission to the nation’s top colleges. Studies show that Asian-Americans meet these colleges’ admissions standards far out of proportion to their 6 percent representation in the U.S. population, and that they often need test scores hundreds of points higher than applicants from other ethnic groups to have an equal chance of admission. Critics say these numbers, along with the fact that some top colleges with race-blind admissions have double the Asian percentage of Ivy League schools, prove the existence of discrimination. [...] Now, an unknown number of students are responding to this concern by declining to identify themselves as Asian on their applications.”

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TienVNguyen

I don’t see how this process is anything but racial discrimination and against federal laws.

It’s no different than a company 60 years ago not hiring someone strictly because they were black or a woman.
jeffat8asians

Sad to say, but I don’t think it is useful to not check Asian when an admissions committee can type a name into google image search and see what someone looks like. Most kids leave an online trail with many pictures of themselves.
Phantom

Yet another advantage of Eurasians, esp those w/non-Asian fathers (thus, non-Asian last names). Just check your Dad’s race but not your Mom’s….

From the article: “Asian students have higher average SAT scores than any other group, including whites. A study by Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade examined applicants to top colleges from 1997, when the maximum SAT score was 1600 (today it’s 2400). Espenshade found that Asian-Americans needed a 1550 SAT to have an equal chance of getting into an elite college as white students with a 1410 or black students with an 1100.”

This is where liberals’ PC belief in forced “diversity” bumps into conservatives’ belief in meritocracy. Many hardworking Asians are becoming just more PC roadkill….
mwei

@jeffat8asians so add cyber stalking to their rap sheet?

reminds me of Assange’s quote: “I give you private information on corporations for free and I’m a villain. Mark Zuckerberg gives your private information to corporations for money and he’s ‘Man of the Year.’”
mwei

@Phantom it’s been discussed to no end everywhere online.

just because they discriminate against Asians, doesn’t mean the other minority students are any less qualified.

afterall, where else can Duke get their basketball slaves if academics is the only thing that mattered?
xiaolei622

@Phantom Or if you’re filipino with a hispanic name! But if your name’s Nguyen/Tran/Zhang/Chen, etc, then you’re not really fooling anybody. You’ll probably just look lame for leaving that box unchecked.

Pure meritocracy only works in a society that’s built on fairness and equality, i.e. among a group of upper middle class white people, but the greater American society is full of inequalities and injustices so “forced diversity” IS needed (within limits) to offset those disparities when possible.

I had a friend in high school who made around 1100 on her SATs (after multiple tries), but because she was black, poor, and no one in her family had ever been to college, she was accepted to a top Ivy school! Oh, there were some pissed off white classmates for sure, but I mean, that one decision changed the circle of life for her whole family (present and future) and bumped her up to a new socioeconomic circle. Today she’s a successful engineer at a large, well known company (that sadly might not have hired her if she had been only a state school graduate). Based on a standardized test taken in high school, did she “deserve” to go to top-Ivy-school? Prob not….but because they took a chance on her, they had a hand in changing society: one more person joining the ranks of middle class, one more black female in the world of chemical engineering. Obviously these universities don’t just accept black applicants willy-nilly just to fill a quota; they still try to examine the whole package as best as they can. I wish for a day when we should/could only judge school admissions based on merit alone but until then, Id have to side with the “liberals” on this one.
mwei

@xiaolei622 university and corporate America are completely separate entities.

otherwise, we’d have more Ph.D.s for president than just one in the entire history of the US.
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