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Just Because Obama is a Minority is No Reason to Vote for Him

By Guest Writer | Monday, November 3, 2008 | 39 Comments

(Note: Song Park is President of the Korean American Republican Party of VA. He previously appeared in a debate with Dan Ye.)

Dear Obama supporters, independents and for those who haven’t decided yet,

Although Obama has made enormous strides in exciting and galvanizing the youth of America not too mention the minority population, I’m afraid his past involvements with nefarious characters, lack of executive and administrative experience in domestic and foreign policies, and more importantly his re-distribution of wealth (really other peoples money – MINE) plan concerns me greatly. He has grown too quickly and too dangerously! His flip-flopping of accepting public finance scared me from day one. Just look at the hundreds of millions of dollars that he’s pouring into this election. Forward thinking only tells me that at the end of this election, somewhere, someday, someone is going to ask for payback. If we already know about his past sketchy relationships, and which America feels that it’s not important and continues to ignore, what happens when these folks expect their candidate to make good on closed-door promises? What has happened to America that we can no longer scrutinize a presidential candidate that has had relationships with anti-American terrorists, widely confirms the candid use of drugs, instrumental in the money-laundering to anti-white organizations, and the abhorrent neglect to protect failed aborted babies who are born alive? Why for the sake of “CHANGE” do we need to support this man and look away from his past?

I must agree that we need “CHANGE.” BOTH candidates speak of change. The only difference is you have one candidate the has a proven track record of change and another that only speaks of change (although remarkably very awe-inspiring). If you looked at his past accomplishments or lack thereof in the Illinois Senate you’d find that his back yard is a mess! Growing poverty, rampant unemployment, crimes against race that are eye-popping! How can Americans accept his message of unifying the Country when he has failed to do it in his own backyard? Speaking with Democrats who plan to cross-lines to vote for McCain…for America, they tell me that Obama’s views are too radical, too socialist and not of the Democratic party. His views are not the views of past great Democrat presidents. They are simply too far to the left for their comfort. McCain is not Bush despite the fact he’s voted with him 90% of the time. Your candidate has voted 97% (when he actually made a commitment to vote) of the time along with his constituents and has never fought for any legislation that’s memorable or even remotely represent “CHANGE.”

With respect to the gross misuse of our tax money by current and past administrations, truthfully I would love to see a bi-partisan task force created to follow the money-trail of EVERY political figure in this country. From TOP-to-BOTTOM. I for one distrust and am ashamed by our government and the way they have used my hard earn money. Yes, that includes the frivolous spending of the past eight years. But insanity is doing something over and over again but just expecting a different result. What Obama proposes is more government spending, more red tape and tighter regulations of the private sector. That translates into more pork-barrel spending and more restrictions on the American will and spirit of free-economy.

Do you know how we got into this mess with our economy? Obama from day one in his professional career as an attorney, sued banks and lenders because they wouldn’t provide sub-prime mortgages to poor African-American families in Chicago. This has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with economics and the ability to pay back these loans. Surely you would be reluctant to loan your hard earned money to someone that had no job or ability to earn a sustainable income or for that matter pay you back the principle never mind interest. The financial melt-down of this Country could have been avoided but because of these special interest groups and continued pressure from civil-rights-minded organization, law firm’s like Obama’s, we were doomed to fail. It was only a matter of time. Even his acceptance of Fannie and Freddie special interest money (>$200,000) he shuns off as though it means nothing to him. It means something to me. Time and time again, your candidate refused to look at things from an economic point-of-view but rather from a racial-equality perspective. I can only assume he will continue his ideologies while in the White House. I will not vote for a man, no matter what color, who has sat in the pews for over 20 years and be taught a skewed view of the Bible by a minister who preaches that the deaths from 9/11 was about time and that God Damns America sentiments. No thanks. Dr. King hoped Americans would someday become color-blind, not color-aligned.

Lastly, from a financial perspective, and as a fiscally-conservative financial advisor (BTW, you want an advisor who is fiscally conservative) I reject his tax plan with every common sense afforded to me by the man upstairs. Mathematics doesn’t lie and his math is flawed. Recently Obama reduced his tax threshold from original $300,000 to $250,000 to $200,000 and now Biden gaffe-machine says $150,000 He says he’s not going to tax 95% of Americans. Truth-be-told, only 60% of Americans pay taxes. So 40% Americans will be getting a check from you and me. That’s the largest re-distribution of income ever seen in this country. No thanks.

My wife and I just recently had our second child. Respectfully, we want to be in TOTAL CONTROL as how to educate, feed and provide them with security and healthcare. I DO NOT want our governments telling me what to do, especially an Obama run administration. I question his experience, credibility, character and convictions. Just like all the other presidential candidates before him and after him. I will vote for the person I feel confident that will keep me and my children safe from within and beyond our borders. I am fortunate that I have been able to see beyond his awe-inspiring crowds, his Messiah-like popularity and golden messages of unity and hope. I asked, “Who is Barrack Obama?” and I didn’t like what I discovered.

I hope for America and for my family that I am wrong about Obama. I can deal with a mentally-challenged President (i.e. Bush) but I can’t deal with an intelligent, narcissistic, megalomaniac-mastermind trying to change our way of life and our constitution. He’s said he will “fundamentally change” the United States. For me… that’s too much change. I’ll keep my money, my guns, my liberty and my freedom… You keep the change.

God Bless America!

What next?

39 Comments to “Just Because Obama is a Minority is No Reason to Vote for Him”

VietVista wrote:

Is this a joke? Is it April Fools already? Either that or this is the best piece of sarcasm I have ever read. Desperate attempt to keep Virginia Red.

Posted on 03-Nov-08 at 11:57 pm | Permalink
Brian wrote:

I’m a registered Independent from NYC and have voted for both parties before.
My political stance has been that of a moderate with beliefs that are considered liberal and conservative. So basically I’m politically bi-polar.
(I watch CNN… forget NBC and FOX)

I’ve seen a lot of propaganda from both sides… I enjoy discussing with both democrats and republicans as long as they’re objective, but so far… people from both parties tend to be blind loyalists.

I would have liked to see Mr. Song Park write more about McCain’s history, achievements, and moderate beliefs.. rather than cut down on Obama.

Since I’ve seen more pro-Obama articles, I’ll discuss McCain briefly.
Most Democrats do not know McCain’s history at all.

McCain is the first moderate from either party to run for president since I can remember. Who was the last moderate? Reagan?
But I agree with Colin Powell that the GOP did a horrible job in the direction of McCain’s campaign and the selection of Palin. (They should have let McCain choose Lieberman like he wanted to.)

The last debate, I thought it was telling how McCain said he would pick the most qualified judge for the supreme court even if he/she happens to be pro-choice. Obama on the other hand said he would only appoint a pro-choice judge even if he/she is NOT the most qualified.
Even if Pro-Choice is like “all or nothing” to you… you have to give credit to McCain that he won’t let one issue cloud the overall credentials of a candidate.

As a moderate, I like McCain’s reasoning more than Obama’s.
Before you start challenging me for a walk-off, let me clarify that I’m a Pro-Fair.
(interpret however you want, i’ll go into it later if someone asks)

One example of McCain’s moderate views is how he went against the GOP regarding illegal immigrants. He was one of the first from either party to say that illegal immigrant should be allowed to get citizenship.

Campaign re-finance reform… Obama did a flip flop on that one.

McCain’s character is well praised by many. He’s definitely got a temper.
The way Obama won his first senate seat in Illinois… was ugly and unpleasant. Just ask the female black community service lifer, Alice Palmer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Palmer_(Illinois_politician)
I don’t know… but this was reported in The New Yorker and on CNN and left a really bad taste in my mouth.

The backlash towards the worst President ever…Bush.. (Carter comes in at a close 2nd) Obama will probably win.
But I’d like the media to be fair to McCain since he went against the Republican party many times. He and his wife have done a tons of fund raising and taken humanitarian trips to 3rd world countries, specifically in asia. That’s more than any other political family I’ve heard of.
http://www.marieclaire.com/world/news/cindy-mccain-interview-election

I’m just sad to see the first moderate candidate become a casualty due to the previous president’s mess. It ain’t the first time… GORE.

Democrats should stop painting McCain like he’s another far right pea-brain Bush.
Democrats should realize that the far right republican base is not supporting McCain because he’s a moderate! (Come in the Palin Bomb…)

The Democrats have an amazing opportunity to pull in the moderates from both parties and independents. But they’ll have to guide the party to more moderate stances… Which ever party does that first will thrive in the next decade.

If you vote for Obama, that’s cool. But do it without painting a false image of a man who has followed his heart even when it was against his own party many times.

I haven’t decided yet who I will vote for. (My vote won’t matter anyways)
But I’ll support who ever wins… and pray for a moderate 3rd party to emerge one day.

Here’s a poll of my friends in the NY/NJ/CT area:
70% voting for Obama
30% for McCain, but saying they will vote for Obama in fear of not looking cool

Medical Field – 70% for McCain
Military Friends in Afghanistan and Iraq – 100% McCain
Married Women – 80% Obama
Married Men – 60% McCAin
Alternative Medicine – 100% Ron Paul
NAABP (aka NAACP) – 100% Obama (is that racist?)

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 12:48 am | Permalink
Ben wrote:

I’ll actually be somewhat amused if VA does go blue. Being from the South. Same with my own state. If Asian Americans do turn out in droves to vote for Obama, then great. But so far, I haven’t much of anything that will turn the states. Registering voters is a good start, but getting them to vote is truly another matter. And turn out. I suppose we’ll see how it goes.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 5:46 am | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

What a condescending piece-of-garbage article.

Conservatives always pander to America’s most deep-seated fears. If you’re going to write such drivel, then author a companion piece entitled “Why it’s not ok to justify NOT voting for Obama by calling him a Muslim.”

The rampant anti-intellectualism in this country is appalling! I mean, “Intelligent, narcissistic, megalomaniac-mastermind?” Yeah, that’s a great one. Intelligence would be a nice reprieve from the last couple of decades of conservative policies.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 7:47 am | Permalink
Jen wrote:

I’m voting for Obama not because he’s black, but because he’s simply the best candidate for President. Period.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:17 am | Permalink
John wrote:

Am I voting for Obama because he is a minority: NO.

I am voting for him because he is the best candidate. I’d vote for Obama if he was black, white, yellow or red.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:18 am | Permalink
Moye wrote:

Why title your piece like that? Why accuse of Obama supporters that they’re voting for him based on his race? Is that the only reason why you think we would vote for him? Why not tell us how McCain is a better candidate than calling his competition a narcissist? You’re giving us the same propaganda BS that your party has continued to spread and you’re really not convincing anyone else.

Plus, it’s too late. I already voted. But thanks for helping me confirm that I made the right choice.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:29 am | Permalink
Moye wrote:

And at least spell his name right.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:30 am | Permalink
Ben wrote:

Actually, coming from the perspective of where he writes from, I can say that there are a lot of people that vote based on the fact that he is a minority. Does it make it right? Of course not. But on the flip side, I think that people aren’t seeing the point of view that it does happen and it’s not in small numbers either.

I think some of the commentary above just shows that people aren’t as open-minded as they think and are considering all possibilities as stupid as it sounds. I admit that the above has a lot of GOP rhetoric. But from the comments, I also find that it’s naive to think that there are not people that are supporting Obama based purely on the fact that he’s a minority either (because I can tell you that there are many).

Amusingly, I have to say that west coasties forget that there is a world outside of the “west coast” at times. I’m at fault of that too, noting where I grew up.

That being said? I already voted this morning.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:37 am | Permalink
MRod wrote:

Echoing Moye: Why do you presume we’re voting for Obama because he’s black?

I think we can all sincerely say that with an Obama administration you’ll get to “keep [your] money…guns…liberty and…freedom” What you are insinuating by suggesting otherwise demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of our system of government and political structure at best and at worst implies that Obama and the millions of Americans that support him are somehow “anti-liberty and anti-freedom.”

As I’ve said time and time again to my conservative friends or colleagues, convince me why McCain is better. Put aside attacking Obama for half an hour and give me reasons why I should vote for McCain. Correction: Why I should have voted for McCain. Over the past year, no republican could do this.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:47 am | Permalink
Moye wrote:

It’s not naive to think that, because I know that it’s true. And how about the close-minded people who are voting for McCain because they don’t want a Black person in the White House? It goes both ways and people need to have more respect for each other.

But to title your opinion piece in such a way and then spout such drivel is disrespectful and demeaning to Obama supporters and those who have worked hard on civil rights. I wouldn’t mind it so much if Song Park actually showed me some insightful and enlightening commentary rather than bringing up the same propaganda that his party has been spreading around.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:49 am | Permalink
Wilbur wrote:

Ha. What a terrible post. I agree with Moye, if anything this should convince moderates to vote for Obama or for those who already voted Obama that they made a sound choice.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:52 am | Permalink
Bo wrote:

Wow! Do you really think Asian-Americans are so simple minded that they are voting for Obama simply because of his race. My god, how very ignorant.

I’m voting for Obama because:

- It’s been proven time and time again that the Republican backed economic philosophy of trickle down economics doesn’t work to expand the middle class. A recent economic study actually found that the economy grows faster under democratic presidents than republican ones.
- I really value my civil liberties and I am willing to pay higher taxes to ensure that they are rebuilt.
- Um, because redistribution of wealth already takes place. It’s called the federal government. As someone who lives in a state that consistently contributes some of the highest % to the federal coffers and sees one of the lowest rates of returns, I’m used to a socialist nation. And Palin should not be rallying against the “redistribution of wealth”. Alaska receives more money from the federal government per capita than any state in the country.
- The current republican president has grown the federal government at a faster pace than any president before him.
- My politics are WAY more LEFT than Obama. He’s the only candidate in recent memory that has even come marginally close to my own political leanings.
- As a church-going Presbyterian I’m horrified by the evangelical-right wing movement of the Republican party. You know what, I don’t want my child to be taught that evolution is a theory. It’s science. Nor do I want my child to be taught that dinosaurs and humans coexisted on this planet.
- I want gay marriage to be legalized in all 50 states of this union.
- I’m a woman and my uterus is pretty damn important to me.
- I want stronger gun control laws put into place. There is no reason semi-automatic weapons should be available for sale.

What you describe in your last sentenance Mr. Park is not a republican ideal of this country, it’s a libretarian ideal of this country. The republican party that you so proudly defend is not a party of hands off government – it’s a party of social conservatism, elimination of civil liberties, and wealth hording.

The “pull yourself up by your boots straps” Republican party dwindled away when Ronald Reagon was elected.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 9:57 am | Permalink
Ben wrote:

Not me. I want guns. That’s the one thing I never did get about more liberal standing. Most liberal thoughts go with more choice, not less. But when it comes to guns, GOP is the choice party, and Dems are the conservative one. Never did settle well with me there.

I figure, if baddies can get guns, regardless of if it’s illegal or not (and I know of plenty of places that you can get them around here), then I want the option too just in case. A law isn’t going to protect me, if I’m shot dead.

@Moye:
Just personally, I don’t really see it as drivel. As someone in the middle, leaning some left, I find that both sides throw the same crap at each other regardless of how each think they’re better than the other side. Call me a cynic, but I’ve yet to see anyone fulfill any of their campaign promises fully since I could vote. Ever. So when it comes to propaganda? It all comes across as that for me. I just have to do my own research. Sucks, but that’s the price I pay for being a cynic. haha.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 10:24 am | Permalink
Bo wrote:

Ben, if you limit gun flow into the country both good and bad people will have a harder time getting them. In places like Great Britain and Canada where there is no gun culture, there are far less gun related deaths and violence.

We don’t let people drive around drunk even though that’s a “personal choice” because the potential to harm others is too great. Ditto for guns.

I was horrified when I went to school in Michigan and went to my first Wal-Mart during freshman year. Why the hell were they just selling shot guns out in the open? You know, because I can’t kill someone with a sawed off shot gun?

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 10:31 am | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

@Ben,

Sure, politicians are politicians. That’s not likely to change this election.

To borrow a turn of phrase from Jen over at Disgrasian, I find myself drowning in my own cynicism on a daily basis.

However, I’m a jaded shell of a person because I’ve witnessed the most base political tactics during McCain’s run-up. The man was maligned during the 2004 primaries by Bushites in the South, and he turns around and dishes out the same race-baiting, xenophobic, anti-intellectual bs this election cycle. It’s uncouth and unforgivable.

Sure, the Obama campaign has made some missteps. I remember an attack ad that targeted McCain’s medical history. Not one of their finer moments.

But to support a candidate (and his little pet veep) that espouses such vitriol toward a person based not on his character, but on loose affiliations with “terrorists” and the fact that he’s simply “the other” is unconscionable. The ends never justify the means.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 10:37 am | Permalink
Ben wrote:

@Bo: Canada? No one wants to carry a gun. and UK wise, that’s because it takes less than an hour to go to a place that you can get a gun. Limiting gun flow doesn’t change anything for arms dealing. Case and point? Look at our drug war. Strong laws, and where has it gone? No where.

While I don’t support legalization of drugs, I find it still amusing. As far as the whole “driving drunk” thing, I find that hypocritical. I have yet to have been to a place where people will drink and not drive. Not calling you out on it, since I don’t know your drinking habits, but it’s the same thing as the whole “I didn’t inhale” thing back in the day. People do what they do, regardless of law or whatever. When was the last time you saw someone jay walk? That’s a traffic infraction. Shift without a signal? You could cause an accident.

As far as the two candidates are concerned? Lesser of two evils in my book. Really, I actually voted purely for sake of Supreme Court justices, regardless of everything else. I doubt anyone is going to save the economy any time soon, and national healthcare is a joke. If anyone has ever tried to get funding for small businesses, then I doubt that they could support either candidate based on the security laws for disclosure if you were trying to do it on the low end of the spectrum without VC. The entire political realm in general is a big farce in my eyes and until someone stepped up and actually did something? It’ll continue to be. Unfortunately, the person that would actually step up to do that, wouldn’t make it to their second term cuz they’d probably get voted out, and there’s an old saying of… “the best leaders are the ones that don’t wish to be leaders.” Oh well, eh?

Take that evil liberals! Oh wait. crap. I think I actually would fall into that category since I lean left. Sonuva…

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 10:53 am | Permalink
Rob wrote:

To the ones that say voting for Obama because he’s black is wrong; I ask why? Why have we made race to not be important when it is? We’ve all been fooled by white people to think race isn’t important because it’s not important to *them*

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 11:01 am | Permalink
Ben wrote:

I wanna take back my vote now. Can I do that? I’m gonna write in Effie’s name cuz then I can say that I voted for a guy cuz he’s gay.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 11:07 am | Permalink
Jen wrote:

Song, are you voting for McCain because he’s white?

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 11:39 am | Permalink
Brian wrote:

I had several interesting conversations with the black people I treat in the city clinic. I expressed to them that I think blacks voting for Obama just because he is black is just as racist as a white person not voting for him b/c he is black.
They all agreed with me and then acknowledged that’s why they’re voting for Obama. (Plus city people tend to be Democrats anyways.)
So I flipped the question to them and asked what if it was Colin Powell running and not Obama. Interestingly enough, they said they would then be voting for Colin Powell, and a few of them said they like Colin Powell better than Obama.

We’re already seeing record numbers of blacks are voting for the first time ever. The polls show that almost every black person will be voting for Obama.
Either way you look at it, it’s a “racist” vote by the majority of black people.

It doesn’t bother me because if there was a grounded smart asian man/woman running for President… I probably would vote for him too.

BTW, I’m annoyed at Obama…. now they’re saying below 120,000
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/02/obama-camp-changes-tax-cut-beneficiaries/

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 12:18 pm | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

@Brian,

Saying that black voters casting votes for Obama is “racist” is straight up stupid, bro. Just because you’ve generalized your own experiences to the rest of the voting population doesn’t mean it’s anywhere near accurate.

And no, it is definitely NOT the same thing as a white person refusing to vote for Obama simply because he’s black. It’s actually the exact opposite. Where one’s based on minority empowerment (race-based, admittedly), the other’s an attempt to reinforce existing power structures. I reiterate: one is not racist, and one is DEFINTELY racist.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 1:03 pm | Permalink
Ben wrote:

@Tristan:
Actually? By dictionary definition, Brian is correct. If you choose by race, or not choose by race then it’s using race as primary judgment. Thus, it’s still racism. It’s just like when people say there’s reverse-discrimination. There’s no such thing. It’s just discrimination.

So singling anyone out by race either for or against, would be considered racism. You don’t need the negative part of it to prove it. It’s one of the reasons why affirmative action is discrimination.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
MinorityMilitant wrote:

Oh god.. A Korean American Right Wing Hack aka Gangbanger. Sounds like he’s got the talking points down to a tee.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
Bo wrote:

Race should matter but not in the way that I think people have allowed it to matter during this election cycle. Race should matter in that it may provide some insight into the experiences that have shaped a candidates current positions and their potential ability to see problems from multiple angles rather than purely from a majority angle. However, to assume that a candidates race completely defines him or her is wrong. I would never vote for an Asian-American candidate purely on their race – I’d have to look at their positions. If it was between a white democratic male and an asian republican female, I’m 100% sure I’d vote for the white dude.

For those who are worried about Obama’s tax policy – have you even looked at it? The real implication for most people making between 250K – 600K is at most $15K due to the lifting of the social security tax cap. It’s really only over $600K that your tax liability will rise above $15K. You know, I’m willing to pay $15K more in taxs if it means universal health care, better schools, and a more solid social infrastructure. But hey, I’m of the belief that making the whole stronger is more important than making the elite richer.

Ben, you’d be horrified to know that I neither drink, nor have I ever used a drug stronger than tylenol, and I avoid caffine. Doh! I’m a horrible Korean, I know. To shame with me.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
Ben wrote:

@Bo: OMG!!!! nah. lol. Heck, Effie just told me about … what was it? soju or something? Didn’t even know it existed.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 2:03 pm | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

@Ben,

Technically, yes, black voters supporting Obama could be called racism. But matters of race require a bit more nuance than Webster allows.

Brian isn’t acknowledging how race is framed in this society. He hasn’t even conclusively proven that black voters are making their decisions because of race. Anecdotal evidence does not a good argument make.

Regardless of whether Brian is blissfully ignorant of what “racism” entails or subscribes to the insidious “post-racial” ideology, I maintain that the two examples are not alike. At all.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
Brian wrote:

@ Tristan, (thanks Ben for reading what I wrote and not singling out words)

What’s up with the hostility and labeling? We’re just discussing thoughts…
Maybe I should have been clearer on my point. The Media has been emphasizing racism affecting mainly white people.
My point was that “racism” has an influence on everyone, blacks, whites, etc.

You’re condemning me because I decided to ask the 20 or so black friends and customers I have in nyc if race is a major factor for them?
I thought I was being pretty thorough when I flipped it by asking the same people if it was Powell, to see if they would have supported a respected black republican.

So I was sharing my conversations because I admired how the black people I know were keepin it real on how race is a big factor for their decision, to the point where if it was Powell in Obama’s place they seriously would have considered voting for him.

Statistically speaking, CNN projections showed that more blacks have voted than ever before and the vast majority of them voted ahead of time b/c of the last Florida debacle.
The breakdown by race shows that the vast majority of blacks are voting for Obama. Now I’m not saying it’s only because Obama is black, but I’m saying it’s a real factor in the decision making of all people whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

A few weeks ago, there was another CNN poll that showed that the vast majority of Colorado white people have never had the opportunity to socialize with blacks. The poll then asks, if they had the opportunity to interact with blacks, would their impressions of blacks have an influence on their vote for Obama, and the majority of them said yes.
CNN then showed the same poll but from Georgia white people asking the same question… and the majority of them said their impressions of blacks have an influence over their vote for Obama.

I never said all blacks that vote for obama are racist.
I’m just pointing out that it’s a major factor for everyone… blacks included.
The CNN polls I quoted already says racism is a factor for white people.

But for now these are all just statistical projections.
When the election is over, they’ll break the statistics down by ethnicity and will show if there were any unusual voting patterns compared to previous elections.
If there are, I bet that race will be one of the theories on why it was so.

tristan, i’m going to support whoever wins…
so relax and grab a seat and go watch avenue q.
everyone’s a little bit racist…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10tMyrFy_1g

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
VietVista wrote:

@Ben,

Are you amused? VIRGINA turned blue Bi-yatch!!!!

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 8:00 pm | Permalink
Ben wrote:

@VietVista:
Yup. Still amused. And amused that you have to resort to name calling. Which just tells me that what I said above was right about both sides of the fence.

Bo, save me from this madness. haha.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 8:40 pm | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

Frankly, it’s a moot point.

My candidate won. The best candidate won.

I’m going to party my ass off.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
Brian wrote:

@ Rob,

Just to be clear…I’m not white. I’m asian.

Just so I understand you…
It sounds like you’re saying that you agree that it is discrimination…(racism)
But due to the horrible history of discrimination blacks have and continue to endure in our country you don’t think it’s fair to call it racism or at least put it on the same level as a white person not voting for a black person based on race.

I wasn’t questioning if it’s justifiable or not justifiable for blacks to vote based on race. My point was that race has an influence on everyone, not just white people. It’s funny you and tristan trying to interpret my point to mean other things.

Go read it again cuz I never said I’m proud of black people because they have new desire to vote. I said I admired how the black people I talked to here in nyc were “real” and transparent to admit that race is a big factor on who they voted for this election.

If you agree that it’s discrimination if anyone let’s race influence them… then you got my point. That was my only point.

Posted on 04-Nov-08 at 10:51 pm | Permalink
VietVista wrote:

@ Ben, I am sorry you felt that way. That “bi-yatch” wasn’t directed personally at you. That was an exclamation of sheer joy that change has come. After fifty something years of red conservativism, that “bi-yatch” was well deserved and executed. Bi-yatch!!!

Posted on 05-Nov-08 at 10:09 am | Permalink
Ben wrote:

@VietVista:
If it’s aimed at Bush, then I’m all for it. haha. Technically, at least in NC, we haven’t swung to blue at all in about three decades. So this year is definitely pretty significant. I even wrote about how improbable it was. And hey… against all odds, Obama pulled pretty much all of the battleground states, and broke the South. That is definitely impressive.

Always said that a Dem had to take at least partial South to even declare victory. Either that or all the usual battleground states like OH. This man did both. Now, I just hope that he can pull off what he preaches. Personally, I’m all for giving GAO more power. It’s the only governmental agency that I have any respect for these days.

Posted on 05-Nov-08 at 10:23 am | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

@Ben,

I’m a fellow North Carolinian. Are you a Triangle man?

Posted on 05-Nov-08 at 4:43 pm | Permalink
Ben wrote:

@Tristan:

Triad.

Posted on 05-Nov-08 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
Tristan wrote:

@Ben,

Fancy that. I’m a Greensboro native, born and bred. Well, I was technically born in Charlotte.

Posted on 06-Nov-08 at 6:31 am | Permalink
John wrote:

@Brian – I think Colin Powell is a pretty moderate Republican. Imagine if there had been an election of Colin Powell vs. Barack Obama – that would have truly been historic!

Posted on 06-Nov-08 at 10:27 pm | Permalink
Ben wrote:

Powell’s wife won’t let him run. And if he did, Obama would have had hell to try to pull off the South for sure then. Powell’s one of the few in the GOP that still has a good head on his shoulders. Conservatism does still live rather strong regardless of how the election turned out. Case and point when even in places like CA, where I wouldn’t have thought Prop 8 to actually fail until reading some other eye-opening things about the geography and political spectrum.

Although I have to admit that I always thought that if Obama picked Hillary as a running mate, that McCain would have had Rice on board. Either way though, McCain did do one thing. He guaranteed that a minority or a female would be in the White House.

Posted on 06-Nov-08 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

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