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When One Stereotype Begets Another

By Tim | Friday, April 23, 2010 | 13 Comments

resized226x169mmw mascots 042210 When One Stereotype Begets AnotherAs a member of one race or ethnicity you may sometimes think there’s no harm in perpetuating stereotypes of other races or ethnicities besides your own. That’s where you may be surprised to find out you’d be wrong. A recent study led by psychologist Chu Kim-Prieto of The College of New Jersey examined the way our brains react to seeing or reading about a Native American sports team mascot. His team conducted two experiments using Chief Illiniwek, a mythical figure who served as the official symbol of University of Illinois athletics from the 1920s until 2007. Two studies done by Chu’s team found that when presented with either depictions or stories about the Native American mascot, study recipients were much more likely to assign and believe in stereotypes about Asians (stereotypes which were unrelated to Native Americans).

These recent studies show why it’s important to denigrate stereotypes no matter which group they are applied to. A recent article of mine on the spate of violence against Asians, brought on a comment asking me to stand up and say that African-Americans were the ones responsible for the latest round of violence. While African-Americans may have been responsible for the specific examples discussed, it would have been wrong to put a blanket stereotype on African-Americans saying they were targeting Asians. It may be true of some specific African-American individuals, but definitely not the group as a whole. As a minority group, it’s important we stop perpetuating stereotypes no matter which group they are applied to, especially since perpetuating someone else’s stereotype will only come back to hurt ourselves in the end.

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topofthemark2

Agree that "promoting hate doesn't get anyone anywhere," and I'm truly sorry you and your child has suffered such hate.

However promoting blindness won't you, me or your child.

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timat8asians

As a gay man, who's had to fight for plenty of my own rights, including the one to have a child, I can assure you I have plenty of reality in my life when it comes to prejudice, discrimination and hate. And believe it or not, my child gets plenty of it as well. I just choose not to let it rule how I run my life or my emotions. Promoting hate doesn't get anyone anywhere.

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topofthemark2

You wrote: "I'm afraid I don't get it. You'd rather be negative and perpetuate "hate". "

Wrong, again, Timmy.

I'd rather perpetuate reality. As a father, you might want to perpetuate a little reality for your kid(s). Otherwise you'll be one dangerous father who tells their kid(s) that all you have to do is have love and PC and the world will treat them in kind. Wish it were true.

You might want to grow up.

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timat8asians

I'm afraid I don't get it. You'd rather be negative and perpetuate "hate". What's wrong with being PC, and trying to make the world a better place? Haven't you heard of the law of the garbage truck?

"Many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they need a place to dump it and sometimes they'll dump it on you. Don't take it personally. Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on. Don't take their garbage and spread it to other people at work, at home, or on the streets. The bottom line is that successful people do not let garbage trucks take over their day. Life's too short to wake up in the morning with regrets. So....Love the people who treat you right. Ignore the ones who don't. Life is ten percent what you make it and ninety percent how you take it!"

Personally the philosophy is a little to "happy, happy" for me, but the general idea is the right one

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topofthemark2

If you read *carefully* what you wrote yourself about Dr. Chu's study, it refers to the extrapolation of negative stereotypes from Native Americans to Asians. It doesn't say anything about extrapolation of negative black stereotypes to negative Asian stereotypes.

It's your wishful PC thinking that makes that spurious leap.

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timat8asians

You definitely didn't get the point of Dr. Chu's study. It found that enforcing negative stereotypes of Native Americans enforced negative stereotypes of Asians. Hence if you enforce negative stereotypes of blacks you also enforce them against Asians.

Just because a black person reinforces negative stereotypes against blacks, doesn't mean it's harmless.

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topofthemark2

You say, "What I'm saying is, if you reinforce the negative stereotypes against blacks, you also reinforce the ones against Asians."

Really how's that???

Blacks do a fine job of reinforcing their own negative stereotypes. Take a look at this video of Chris Rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6-Wc0PDc4&fea......

I hope it's not too much for your tender PC ears but it was given by a black comedian with important things to say to a mostly black audience. It's funny because there's the shock of recognition. If you're human, you'll also cry at the shock of recognition. It's not too pretty. Hope you can take it.

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timat8asians

There's certainly no exclusivity on hate crimes by race. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of hate crimes against Asians by other groups other than blacks, and probably plenty by Asians as well (just look at all the home invasion robberies).

What I'm saying is, if you reinforce the negative stereotypes against blacks, you also reinforce the ones against Asians. And I know that not all immigrant Asians are meek and don't bother to report crimes against them as you seem to imply. The most recent one that comes to mind was the immigrant Asian lady on the Muni bus that fought back against a black woman. That one brought to my mind, my own immigrant mom who would've probably have fought back even more fiercely.

And FYI, I'm not a 2nd gen Asian who went to Berkeley. I'm actually an immigrant myself.

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topofthemark2

I'm certainly saying that you "should be prejudiced against black people." I'm saying that you should acknowledge that there is no exclusivity on hate crimes by any race -- in this case black hate crimes against Asians. In this case, there's been as you put it, a spate of cases against Asians. That's probably because it's been reported. Black hate crimes against Asians have been around for a long time. It's time you woke up and not delicately PC-wise dance around the issue by not mentioning the hate crimes of the perps.

As far as stereotypes go, you mention an interesting point about NFL players, basketball stars, etc. (which I'm all for). So where are the notable black scientists, doctors, lawyers, etc. -- besides the notable black NFL players, basketball stars, TV personalities, musicians, etc.? See your stereotype argument plays both ways. (And don't give me the lame argument of Obama, who is an absolute outlier.) Most stereotypes of blacks are negative -- reinforced by blacks themselves. Don't believe me? Google Bill Cosby and see what he says or what NY Times black columnist Bob Herbert writes. Still don't believe me? Try a little intercultural social networking on the meaner streets of Oakland or Bayview Hunters Point and see if black hate crimes on Asians is just like your sociology class at Berkeley.

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timat8asians

So you're saying I should be prejudiced against black people? That sounds like a rotten way to live too. The right answer is education, and the more Asians that break stereotypes, by becoming NFL players, basketball stars, etc, the more likely that message will spread. Adding to the stereotypes that are out there certainly doesn't.

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topofthemark2

"While African-Americans may have been responsible for the specific examples discussed, it would have been wrong to put a blanket stereotype on African-Americans saying they were targeting Asians."

What a joke!!! While not every black targets Asians, criminal blacks do target Asians. Why? Because like you, they won't fight back or even report the crime -- preferring instead to retreat back into an Asian only community or if they're second gen and educated like you, prefer to view life as a sociology class. Keep deluding yourself that if only you didn't have prejudice then by golly other people will treat you the same.

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jozjozjoz

*thumbs up*

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ErnieAtLYD

[this is a good post]

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